Thinking it may have been outdated NVidia drivers, I downloaded and
installed the latest release from NVidia's web site, but the situation did
not improve.
I've searched the web and the newsgroups and cannot find anyone with a
similar problem; I found some people complained about sluggish WEB PAGES with
IE8, but my issue is not that web pages are slow to load, but specifically
it's a problem with my GUI rendering speed.
Anyway, this morning I uninstalled IE8, rebooted, and now my GUI speed is
back to normal (fast) -- I can move windows around without trails -- so it is
obviously something with Internet Explorer 8.
My system specs:
Dell 400SC
Pentium-4 HT 2.8GHz single core
3 GB memory
NVidia GeForce 7600 GS 512MB AGP 8X, driver version 185.85
Dual LCD monitors
Windows XP SP3 with all high-priority updates
Thoughts? Anyone?
Steve
"bargz" <ba...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C300BFF2-8139-4055...@microsoft.com...
No-charge support for Internet Explorer 8 installation, set-up and usage
(only) is available via the phone based on your locale through 31 December
2009. Customers must be running Windows XP or Windows Vista in a non-domain
environment.
=> US & CA Residents: 1-866-234-6020
=> Other locales: https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?&prid=13043
My personal recommendations include:
=> Install IE8 manually, not via Windows Update/Automatic Updates!!
=> Uninstall all third-party toolbars (e.g., Google; Yahoo; Windows Live)
and third-party Windows Themes before installing IE8.
=> Close all open applications (i.e., anything with a taskbar icon) before
installing or uninstalling IE8.
=> I would strongly recommend disabling your anti-virus application and any
anti-spyware application's "system protections" (other than Defender's)
before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade. If you're running a
third-party firewall, I would recommend disabling it and then enabling the
Windows Firewall before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade.
=> Create a Restore Point manually before installing IE8. [Do NOT use
System Restore to remove/uninstall IE8; instead, see
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/957700. Then use the Restore Point prior to
reinstalling IE8 per these recommendations. Norton users will need to see
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/symantecdoc1.html.]
=> Reboot twice after installing or uninstalling IE8.
=> For best chance of success with IE8, make certain that your anti-virus
application, any anti-spyware applications (other than Defender), and your
third-party firewall (if any) are supported in IE8 Final before you decide
install it.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
See this blog post.
http://blogs.msdn.com/tonyschr/archive/2005/05/25/desktop-heap-limitations.aspx
Regards.
"bargz" <ba...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C300BFF2-8139-4055...@microsoft.com...
Anteaus wrote:
> Also makes me wonder if you have the Active Desktop on turned on.
> ('View my desktop as a webpage..' in display settings)
> This always gives rise to issues, has done since IE4.
>
> "JimB" wrote:
>> I am using Windows XP, SP3
>>
At first I didn't realise it was IE8 but I did notice that the white lag
cleared up if I were to stop the explorer.exe process. When I restarted
explorer.exe then the white lag returned. I decided that there might be a
registry corruption causing explorer to slow things down so I did a system
restore to the previous week and then everything then seemed ok.
The following day I noticed that IE8 was no longer working and then I
realised that the restore had restored me to before I installed IE8. So I
reinstalled IE8 and to my dismay the white lag returned.
So next I decided to can IE8 and roll back to IE7. I uninstalled IE8 and
installed IE7 but to my further dismay IE7 refuses to run - it just drops
back to the desktop.
So now my choices are to have IE8 with a slowdown or to move over to Firefox
(which I'm currently using but it keeps locking me up so i want it
uninstalled asap).
Help!
another clue - with IE8 installed then I can't change the background without
a restart. The old background remains on the desktop even after I've changed
it in the display properties window.
My specs are:
Fijitsu siemens Pentium 4 HT 3.6 GHz
2 GB memory
NVidia GeForce 7950 driver version 182.08
Windows XP SP3 with all high-priority updates
Intersting that Bargz also has Pentium HT chip?
any advice appreciated...
---------
Twayne`
The only common thread in all these posts is "NVidia GeForce".
My two computers have NVidia GeForce cards, I have slow painting problem
with IE8. I remove IE8, painting problem gone.
Other people without NVidia GeForce cards do not report this problem --
generally speaking. Nothing posted on NVidia forums about it ...
Just a guess.
What processor type have you got?
"hdonthecheap" <hdonth...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BE29EFBE-AF60-4DEA...@microsoft.com...
> The common item I picked up on was "Pentium-4 HT", think it might be a
> logical processor issue?
If the HT stands for hyperthreading, perhaps you could try disabling
hyperthreading (there is usually a BIOS option to do this) and see if it makes
any difference?
Harry.
"hdonthecheap" <hdonth...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BE29EFBE-AF60-4DEA...@microsoft.com...
BTW, slow paint is one problem, broken desktop is the other. You cannot
change desktop images after ie8 install on both machines. I do not think
people realize IE8 problem immediately because there maybe a long time
between installation and when they try to change their desktop background.
I came up with this theory by reading peoples hardware configurations that
experienced the problem. Everything was different between postings except
Nvidia gef cards. Some MS tech with tools could shed light on this theory
but I'm not going to spend the time. Can live without ie8 until I get a new
computer with win7 on it.
Like I said, just a guess.
However if I temporarily kill the explore.exe process then the problem
clears up. Obviously this isn't even a workaround never mind a cure. :(
"Harry Johnston [MVP]" <ha...@scms.waikato.ac.nz> wrote in message
news:Od8sSiJ5...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
My next step was to roll back, of course. I went back to my Wednesday
restore point, just to be safe. I was relieved to see that my desktop was
back to its normal paint speed, notepad dances with the cursor.
But wait, there's more!
IE does not work. Though it is not my primary browser, I use it for silly
stuff, like windows update, Netflix DRM viewing, stuff like that. When ever I
tried to light up a IE based task IE took a dive, and get this, It does not
even give a fialed app dialog box. NOOOOOOO, it just goes away.
So I found this thread. PA Bear says, use the remove function to uninstall
IE8, NOT the restore point. So I oh boy, how am I not going to wind up not
doing a sysgen? OK, re-install IE8. Yup the slow down is back. BTW I use
active desktop for a bunch of monitoring web pages, so just for haha's I
disable all the active desktop. Hey its faster, I dunno if it is as fast as
pre IE8 but now I want my old machine back. So I do the IE8 uninstall and
again the mandatory re-boot.
RATS! IE7 is still not working. No IE7 no Windows update.
ANYONE have an idea how to get IE7 back?
Wrong. Should have followed Microsoft's published instructions for
removing IE 8. Now you have a mess on your hands.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est
Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
"gjpc" <gj...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CABBEBF6-6A11-4983...@microsoft.com...
There must be a way to disable the buggy Active Desktop and get my PC back
to normal!?
Look at the following settings in the 'Group Policy Editor' ('Start
Menu' > 'Administrative Tools') :
'User configuration' > 'Administrative Templates' > 'Windows Components'
> 'Windows Explorer' > "Turn on Classic Shell."
...and both of the following :
'User configuration' > 'Administrative Templates' > 'Desktop' > 'Active
Desktop' > "Enable Active Desktop"
...and :
'User configuration' > 'Administrative Templates' > 'Desktop' > 'Active
Desktop' > "Disable Active Desktop"
(..but especially the first setting at the top).
==
Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)
"Carl Duranleau" <Carl Dura...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:40D4FF30-51E7-4612...@microsoft.com...
Just for the heck of it...
If in XP, just do this:
Start button --> RUN --> type in:
regsvr32 actxprxy.dll
--. Click OK.
Reboot.
If Vista, you need to open a command prompt as the administrator (run as
administrator) and run the following command:
regsvr32 actxprxy.dll
Reboot.
Help any?
--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
This is fix for speeding up IE8 that I already saw at
http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=2443.
Bad news - it makes no difference to the desktop paint speed.(well for me
anyway using XP SP3 and IE8.0.6001.18702)
I have 2.2 GH pentium
Radeon X800
2 GB ram
XP /SP3
The wierd thing is that I have a cheapy deapy laptop from walmart and it
doen't have the problem.
Every time I log on here it seems people are having problems with IE8.
It seems like it's not compatible with existing programs or whatever ,
but it clearly seems to have some issues that need to be resolved yet
some seem to have no problem with it?
Robert
<snipped>
Navyguy wrote:
> Every time I log on here it seems people are having problems with
> IE8. It seems like it's not compatible with existing programs or
> whatever , but it clearly seems to have some issues that need to be
> resolved yet some seem to have no problem with it?
Yes.
Exactly the same as going to a hospital. Seems everywhere you look people
are having trouble with this or that, all those medical issues. Yet - if
you go to the supermarket - the medical problems you witness are much less
in number. ;-)
In other words - don't walk into a place setup for people complain and get
assistance with Microsoft updates/Windows XP issues and Internet Explorer
specific issues and then wonder why you you see people complaining about
Microsoft updates/Windows XP issues and Internet Explorer specific issues.
*grin*
I have had no show-stopping issues with Internet Explorer 8 to speak of. I
haven't even personally had the need to use the "Compatibility View"
feature. That's many different banking/credit card/financial sites, many
different academic sites, many different technical subscription and such
sites and so on.
Again - for those having 'issues' with IE8 concerning speed - I suggest:
If in XP, just do this:
Start button --> RUN --> type in:
regsvr32 actxprxy.dll
--> Click OK.
Question(s) if how do we make certain that are anti-virus, anti-
spyware are supported by IE8? Also since you recommend not downloading
it from Windows or Automatic updates where do you recommend?
Robert
That's a good question. Ordinarily, you would check the documentation
that comes with each program. However, usually what you will find is
which *operating systems* (and service pack levels) are supported.
Googling is a good idea, though; this way, you will see, for instance,
that there is a conflict between Spybot Search & Destroy's Immunization
feature and IE8:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=spybot+ie8&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g2
> Also since you recommend not downloading
> it from Windows or Automatic updates where do you recommend?
Right here:
The file name:
IE8-WindowsXP-x86-ENU.exe
So I cannot use Spybot with IE8? If so, that really sucks.
Robert
You missed my point entirely, even in hospital's they have epidemics
which isn't the norm and that was my point. It seems IE8 has more than
it's share of issues.
Robert
You can still run Spybot. But you won't be able to use its Immunization
feature because it conflicts with IE8's immunization feature.
Navyguy wrote:
<snip>
Daave wrote:
<snip>
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
> If MS09-019/KB969897 is installed, you should be able to enable
> Spybot's Immunizations without affecting IE8 performance.
>
I did not miss it - I believe it is incorrect.
I have been on these newsgroups many years. IE6, IE7 - lots of issues
posted about.
Windows XP, Windows XP SP1/SP1a, Windows XP SP2 and Windows XP SP3 - lots of
issues posted about.
Overall - IE8 is seeing an equal percentage of the questions to everything
else - although there are the normal spikes when the new product comes out.
<canned>
HOW TO solve IE8 installation problems
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949220
No-charge support for Internet Explorer 8 installation, set-up and usage
(only) is available via the phone based on your locale through 31 December
2009. Customers must be running Windows XP or Windows Vista in a non-domain
environment.
=> US & CA Residents: 1-866-234-6020
=> Other locales: https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?&prid=13043
My personal recommendations include:
=> Install IE8 manually, not via Windows Update/Automatic Updates!! =>
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/worldwide-sites.aspx
NB: Save the installer to your desktop, do not Run it. When you're prepared
to install IE8, double-click on the saved file.
NB: Save the installer to your desktop, do not Run it. When you're prepared
to install IE8, right-click on the saved file and select "Run as
Administator.
=> Uninstall all third-party toolbars (e.g., Google; Yahoo; Windows Live)
and third-party Windows Themes before installing IE8.
=> Close all open applications (i.e., anything with a taskbar icon) before
installing or uninstalling IE8.
=> I would strongly recommend disabling your anti-virus application and any
anti-spyware application's "system protections" (other than Defender's)
before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade. If you're running a
third-party firewall, I would recommend disabling it and then enabling the
Windows Firewall before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade.
=> Create a Restore Point manually before installing IE8. [Do NOT use
System Restore to remove/uninstall IE8; instead, see
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/957700. Then use the Restore Point prior to
reinstalling IE8 per these recommendations. Norton users will need to see
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/symantecdoc1.html.]
=> Reboot twice after installing or uninstalling IE8, then check-in at
Windows Update and install any critical security updates offered.
=> For best chance of success with IE8, make certain that your anti-virus
application, any anti-spyware applications (other than Defender), and your
third-party firewall (if any) are supported in IE8 Final before you decide
install it.
</canned>
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
Navyguy wrote:
<snip>
> Overall - IE8 is seeing an equal percentage of the questions to everything
> else - although there are the normal spikes when the new product comes out.
To expand on this a little, there are several reasons we see problem spikes when
a new product comes out:
Firstly, the product may turn out to be incompatible with other software out
there, usually though not always third-party security software.
Secondly, there are usually lots of people whose systems already have problems
that they don't know about. Any time new software is installed there is a
chance these problems will develop more obvious (or even disastrous) symptoms.
Thirdly, any product is bound to have some undiscovered bugs in it, a portion of
which will show up soon after release.
The third reason is the most obvious, but in my experience it is usually the
least significant. :-)
Harry.
Your smiley should have been a winkie. It goes back to a product
development philosophy/strategy embraced by the Varian Bros: Let the
customer perform the last phase of testing, and we'll fix the bugs using
the customer's money.
--
Ed Jay (remove 'M' to reply by email)
Win the War Against Breast Cancer.
Knowing the facts could save your life.
http://www.breastthermography.info
> Your smiley should have been a winkie. It goes back to a product
> development philosophy/strategy embraced by the Varian Bros: Let the
> customer perform the last phase of testing, and we'll fix the bugs using
> the customer's money.
Nowadays, software is so complicated that no matter how much testing you do,
there will still be bugs. In the particular case of Windows software, there are
also so many different combinations of hardware and software out there that
there are usually bugs that couldn't be detected in-house except by the wildest
of lucky breaks.
Harry.
--
...winston
ms-mvp mail
"Ed Jay" <ed...@aes-intl.com> wrote in message news:p5b855dug4jnfhnjf...@4ax.com...
Point taken.
Robert
Hi Robert,
I followed your instructions and download IE8 to my desktop but when I
tried right clicking it to run as administrator it gave my name. Since
I'm running my computer as administrator I thought this was normal
(I've tried creating user accounts but it won't let me) In any case, I
clicked ok and it came back with access denied. So what do I do now?
In passing should I be going to Windows updates versus Microsoft
updates? What's the difference?
Thanks,
Robert
> I followed your instructions and download IE8 to my desktop but when I
> tried right clicking it to run as administrator it gave my name. Since
> I'm running my computer as administrator I thought this was normal
> (I've tried creating user accounts but it won't let me) In any case, I
> clicked ok and it came back with access denied. So what do I do now?
> In passing should I be going to Windows updates versus Microsoft
> updates? What's the difference?
Please stop <snipping> previous posts when replying to this thread, Robert.
Repost:
HOW TO solve IE8 installation problems
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949220
No-charge support for Internet Explorer 8 installation, set-up and usage
(only) is available via the phone based on your locale through 31 December
2009. Customers must be running Windows XP or Windows Vista in a non-domain
environment.
=> US & CA Residents: 1-866-234-6020
=> Other locales: https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?&prid=13043
Should you need additional assistance, please begin your own new thread in
IE General newsgroup.
We replaced the driver and eventually the video card and the issue
continued. I decided I would just have to live with it and then I
came across your post. I uninstalled IE8 this morning and my
computer is working SO much better.
thanks again for posting!
Deanna