Missing posts???

[moonraker]

Hi team,

I have post to questions recently entitled "Compacting........or rather not
quite...."

One dated...01 February 2010 23:50
The other....03 February 2010 13:13

To this newsgroup:-
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress

Has anyone found them or know of their whereabouts, as I am beginning to get
quite concerned?

Have they been kidnapped or taken to another newsgroup?

Sleepless in Seattle

[Bruce Hagen]

I don't recall seeing any posts here in quite some time with "Compacting"
in the subject field. Sure you didn't see them somewhere else?
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

"moonraker" <invalid...@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:utmY5FPp...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

[moonraker]

Stay there, I'll send them again!!!!!!

"Bruce Hagen" <Nos...@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
news:ua%23IrPPp...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Were you accessing this newsgroup via the MS newserver or were you
accessing it via your ISP-provided newsserver?

I can guarantee you that your mail alias invalid...@invalid.com has
something to do with it.

PS: Your repost hasn't shown up here either though it made it to Google
Groups somehow:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress/browse_frm/thread/941c8bf2523cfaca

[moonraker]

Hi PA and thanks for your reply,

I changed the mail ID from my email address early Dec 09, when I was alarmed
to discover it �published� on the internet accessed newsgroups, I have
accessed the newsgroups many times successfully since the change as I have
finally for the thread above and for this one. Quite what happened to the
missing two posts I am mystified, they show as being sent in my sent items
folder?

Can I ask, if a post sent to a newsgroup does not get through, would I
receive a not delivered notification? I can�t see how it be returned if it
does not have my email address.

What happens to them, are they stuck on a server somewhere or do they get
deleted?

I have always accessed the newsgroups via my OE and you have personally been
keeping me afloat for around 6 or 8 years now.

As most, or nearly all of my posts are getting through, could you explain
why my alias is less than ideal, an then I can alter it.

Many thank

Steve

P.S. Just in case you cannot see it, my message/post has arrived on the
newsgroup in my OE newsgroup, it�s the next one up. <well on my screen
anyway>

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

OT: I've purposely not edited your quoted reply below to illustrate all of
the unnecessary spacing between paragraphs, etc. Are you composing replies
in OE or, e.g., Word?

> Can I ask, if a post sent to a newsgroup does not get through, would I
> receive a not delivered notification?

No.

> As most, or nearly all of my posts are getting through, could you explain
> why my alias is less than ideal, an then I can alter it.

Try changing it to invalid_invalid@, invalidinvalid@ or just invalid@: There
shouldn't be any periods before the [AT] symbol. Then again, OE "View |
Current View | Show replies to my messages" would no longer show your
earlier posts as "yours" after you do so.

> P.S. Just in case you cannot see it, my message/post has arrived on the

> newsgroup in my OE newsgroup...

They've not shown up here nor in web-based newsgroup (for me at least):
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress

That being said, there have been all sorts of "synchronizing" problems with
the newsservers since April 2009 or so but usually posts made & read via
NNTP (a newsreader) have not been effected.

That being said, you're access this newsgroup via the MS newsserver
news://msnews.microsoft.com, right?

moonraker wrote:
> Hi PA and thanks for your reply,
>
>
>
> I changed the mail ID from my email address early Dec 09, when I was
> alarmed

> to discover it �published� on the internet accessed newsgroups, I have

> accessed the newsgroups many times successfully since the change as I have
> finally for the thread above and for this one. Quite what happened to the
> missing two posts I am mystified, they show as being sent in my sent items
> folder?
>
>
>
> Can I ask, if a post sent to a newsgroup does not get through, would I

> receive a not delivered notification? I can�t see how it be returned if it

> does not have my email address.
>
> What happens to them, are they stuck on a server somewhere or do they get
> deleted?
>
>
>
> I have always accessed the newsgroups via my OE and you have personally
> been
> keeping me afloat for around 6 or 8 years now.
>
>
>
> As most, or nearly all of my posts are getting through, could you explain
> why my alias is less than ideal, an then I can alter it.
>
>
>
> Many thank
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> P.S. Just in case you cannot see it, my message/post has arrived on the

> newsgroup in my OE newsgroup, it�s the next one up. <well on my screen

[moonraker]

Yes I do compose in word normally, then P&C onto here, point taken will
close gaps in future.

>>>>>>That being said, you're access this newsgroup via the MS newsserver
> news://msnews.microsoft.com, right?<<<<<<<<<<<<

I have no idea, how do I find out? I just followed your instructions to
access the newsgroups via OE and as said they are listed in my folders
list - I just select ctrl +w and select "subscribe" to choose the newsgroup
I need.
And I am quite happy with this method.

I don't know what you mean by "MS newsserver", as far as I know these posts
get sent out the same route as my normal emails, i.e via my outgoing ISP.

I am mistified as to why you cannot see my "original" email, yet your can
see this thread, as I said I can now see the other thread/post listed right
obove this one.

Should I send the original email yet again?

Cheers

Steve

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABe...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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>> to discover it "published" on the internet accessed newsgroups, I have

>> accessed the newsgroups many times successfully since the change as I
>> have
>> finally for the thread above and for this one. Quite what happened to the
>> missing two posts I am mystified, they show as being sent in my sent
>> items
>> folder?
>>
>>
>>
>> Can I ask, if a post sent to a newsgroup does not get through, would I

>> receive a not delivered notification? I can't see how it be returned if

>> it
>> does not have my email address.
>>
>> What happens to them, are they stuck on a server somewhere or do they get
>> deleted?
>>
>>
>>
>> I have always accessed the newsgroups via my OE and you have personally
>> been
>> keeping me afloat for around 6 or 8 years now.
>>
>>
>>
>> As most, or nearly all of my posts are getting through, could you explain
>> why my alias is less than ideal, an then I can alter it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Many thank
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>> P.S. Just in case you cannot see it, my message/post has arrived on the

>> newsgroup in my OE newsgroup, it's the next one up. <well on my screen

[moonraker]

Hi Bruce,

Can you see this thread?

Can you now see my other thread that PA cannot see?

Many thanks

Steve

"Bruce Hagen" <Nos...@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
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[Bruce Hagen]

I can see this thread, and I /believe/ all your posts from today. If you
are asking if I can see these:

One dated...01 February 2010 23:50
The other....03 February 2010 13:13

No. AFAIK, they never got here.

Regarding your news server. What is listed as your news server in the OE
folder tree after your local folders? Or, Tools | Accounts | News? If
you're not using msnews.microsoft.com to post here, you should. You will
probably see better results.

Setting up Outlook Express to access Microsoft newsgroups:
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

"moonraker" <invalid...@invalid.com> wrote in message

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[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

I thought so. When composing a post or email in Word, only use ENTER (once)
to begin a new paragraph. To begin a new line when necessary, use
SHIFT+ENTER.

You are not "sending (an) email" when posting to this newsgroup.

What does clicking on the following link do on your computer? =>
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress

moonraker wrote:
> Yes I do compose in word normally, then P&C onto here, point taken will
> close gaps in future.
>
>>>>>>> That being said, you're access this newsgroup via the MS newsserver
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com, right?<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
> I have no idea, how do I find out? I just followed your instructions to
> access the newsgroups via OE and as said they are listed in my folders
> list - I just select ctrl +w and select "subscribe" to choose the
> newsgroup
> I need.
> And I am quite happy with this method.
>
> I don't know what you mean by "MS newsserver", as far as I know these
> posts
> get sent out the same route as my normal emails, i.e via my outgoing ISP.
>
> I am mistified as to why you cannot see my "original" email, yet your can
> see this thread, as I said I can now see the other thread/post listed
> right
> obove this one.
>
> Should I send the original email yet again?
>

[moonraker]

Obviously I have posted an attached screenshot in the post above, is there
any sensitive personal data shown that may be a security risk??
If so, what is the best method to use. ( I tried to send it unzipped at
around 280kb but got an error saying it was to large)

Cheers....Steve.

"moonraker" <invalid...@invalid.com> wrote in message

news:%23uYzY6b...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Hi PA,
>
> Oh dear!!!! I'm to say the least......a little puzzled?????
>
> Yes!! when I clicked on the link it opened the newsgroup in my OE upper
> window pane downloaded for a little while (synchronized??) and showed the
> messages in the newsgroup..........BUT now I have two versions.
> One existing version "with" my "missing" post showing as the message above
> this one dated:-
>
> Compacting........or rather not quite.... 03 February 2010 17:31(this is
> the post I sent the other day when I asked you to hold on <in jest of
> course>

>
>
>
> One dated...01 February 2010 23:50

> The other....03 February 2010 13:13(these two "have" actually vanished,
> even I have never seen them)
>
>
> I think it will be easier if I send some screenshots.....if I can that
> is????
>
>
>
> Cheers...........Steve

>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABe...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:u1VfvKWp...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

[20100204]

Messages do get deleted from these newsgroups when an MVP is embarrassed
not to be able to answer the question or if you call MVPs by the name of
PIGS (Most Valuable Pigs) or if you answer the question correctly but
MVP did not want a question to be answered because all Microsoft's
customers are considered to be a bunch of W*nkers.

Either way, I take the view that when my messages get deleted then
clearly I am succeeding in my aims and I feel very happy after that and
normally give a wo or three squirts on the face or in the mouth of Peter
Folde's sister.

hth

[moonraker]

I hope this post can be deleted

"20100204" <2010...@20100204.NET> wrote in message
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[moonraker]

Hi Bruce,

Can I ask? If I am sending new posts and can see them - but you cannot -
"where" are the ones I can residing?

Do posts in fact get listed on many different servers etc, around the world?

Can you see my latest post above send a little earlier:-

"Compacting or rather not quite"........06 February 2010 16:52 (As I can see
it)

> Regarding your news server. What is listed as your news server in the OE
> folder tree after your local folders? Or, Tools | Accounts | News?

Can I send screenshots to show you?

> If you're not using msnews.microsoft.com to post here, you should. You
> will probably see better results.

I believe (I'm sure) I am!!!!!

"Bruce Hagen" <Nos...@mymail.invalid> wrote in message

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[Bruce Hagen]

Posts do end up on different servers. I can see your two test posts, but
none about compacting.

Are you using the MSNews server? Or another?

Setting up Outlook Express to access Microsoft newsgroups:
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

Take Robear's advice re your address. I would suggest changing it to
Moon...@nospam.invalid

--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

"moonraker" <invalid...@invalid.com> wrote in message

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[moonraker]

I did ask some other questions in my last post to you......and answered some
of your questions

Why is it that all of these posts are getting through to you, yet when I
send new posts either just before or just after you are unable to see them?
(I did change my ID to invalid...@invalid.com (i.e. I changed the "."
dot in between to two invalid's to a underscore"_"......I have just noticed
that when the ID is in the post, there is a blue line underneath the
address, I believe PA could not see the "." dot and therefore thought there
was a space <gap>, if you look at it now you cannot see the underscore "_".)

From the previous post:-

>>> Regarding your news server. What is listed as your news server in the OE
>>> folder tree after your local folders? Or, Tools | Accounts | News?
>>

>> Can I send screenshots to show you?????????????

>>
>>
>>> If you're not using msnews.microsoft.com to post here, you should. You
>>> will probably see better results.
>>
>> I believe (I'm sure) I am!!!!!

Many thanks..................Steve

"Bruce Hagen" <Nos...@mymail.invalid> wrote in message

news:u4krsN1p...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

[Bruce Hagen]

Sorry. I didn't scroll down far enough.

> Why is it that all of these posts are getting through to you, yet when I
> send new posts either just before or just after you are unable to see
> them?

I have no idea as yet. The address you were posting with was showing fine.
It is suggested that it end in .invalid and not in invalid.com. That is a
possible reason for missing posts.

Take a screen shot and then upload it here:

TinyPic:
http://tinypic.com/

After the upload completes, copy the last URL listed: Direct link for
layouts and paste it in the thread.

Example:
http://i48.tinypic.com/6xzw5i.jpg

--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

"moonraker" <invalid...@invalid.com> wrote in message

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[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Repost: When you click on the following link...

news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress

...do you see a new newsserver and newsgroup entry for the OE6 newsgroup in
Folders pane on left-hand side?

[moonraker]

Will repost now, this is a screen shot after I clicked on the link:-

http://i48.tinypic.com/mkxdur.jpg

Although I would point out that I always had
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
listed "TWICE" in the folders list (I just don't normally show the folders
list showing)

I just tried to send this reply after clicking on the link, but it would not
send it - saying there was no sender specified please check your news
configuration.

So have returnd to my ogininal method/newsgroup to send this (which is also
listed as -
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress................at.........msnews.microsoft.com....as
you can see in the left of the box...ctrl+w.

http://i46.tinypic.com/29ehzjr.jpg

Cheers............Steve

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABe...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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[Michael Santovec]

The first image shows that you have set up the msnews.microsoft.com
account twice. That in itself is OK. Some people do that if they have a
lot of subscribed newsgroups and want to group them.

But subscribing to the same newsgroup in the both accounts could cause
problems. OE uses the server name/newsgroup as the DBX file name. So I
would get rid of the first account since both the newsgroups there are
in the second account.

As for the No Sender error message, see:
OLEXP: "The Message Could Not Be Sent. Unable to Post Message, No Sender
Was Specified" When You Post to a Newsgroup
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=271742
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=271375
If the name and e-mail address seem OK, retype and click APPLY. If you
still have problems, delete the news account, restart OE and set it up
again.

--

Mike - http://TechHelp.Santovec.us

"moonraker" <invalid...@invalid.com> wrote in message

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[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

1. Write down the location of your identity's store
(http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm#storemain).

2. Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' via Start | Control Panel | Folder
Options | View (cf.
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html).

3a. Open OE, right-click on the first instance of "msnews.microsoft.com" in
Folders pane [cf. http://i48.tinypic.com/mkxdur.jpg; not
"msnews.microsoft.com (1)"] and select REMOVE ACCOUNT.

3b. Now right-click on the remaining instance of
"microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress" and select
UNSUBCRIBE.

4. Close OE & reboot.

5. After making sure that OE is still closed...

Open Windows Explorer (WinKey+E) and navigate to the store folder you wrote
down in #1 above, right-click on any instances of a file named...

microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress.dbx

or...

microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress (1).dbx

[You may find 2 or more!] and Delete it/them, then close Windows Explorer.

6. Open OE, resubscribe to OE6 newsgroup
(microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress) & all should be
well.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

[PA Bear, MS MVP]

[Posting via Google Groups]

Michael, your post (made via Windows Live Mail, I might add) does NOT
show up in OE here. Methinks the "newsserver synchronization issue" is
still with us.

QED: Does the Communities 'feechur' have anything to do with this?
--
~Robear

On Feb 8, 4:53 pm, "Michael Santovec" <mich...@santovec.XXX> wrote:
> The first image shows that you have set up the msnews.microsoft.com
> account twice.  That in itself is OK. Some people do that if they have a
> lot of subscribed newsgroups and want to group them.
>
> But subscribing to the same newsgroup in the both accounts could cause
> problems.  OE uses the server name/newsgroup as the DBX file name.  So I
> would get rid of the first account since both the newsgroups there are
> in the second account.
>
> As for the No Sender error message, see:
> OLEXP: "The Message Could Not Be Sent. Unable to Post Message, No Sender

> Was Specified" When You Post to a Newsgrouphttp://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=271742http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=271375

> If the name and e-mail address seem OK, retype and click APPLY.  If you
> still have problems, delete the news account, restart OE and set it up
> again.
>
> --
>
> Mike -http://TechHelp.Santovec.us
>

> "moonraker" <invalid_inva...@invalid.com> wrote in message

>
> news:uigXSWQq...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>
>
> > Will repost now, this is a screen shot after I clicked on the link:-
>
> >http://i48.tinypic.com/mkxdur.jpg
>
> > Although I would point out that I always had

> > news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlo­okexpress

> > listed "TWICE" in the folders list (I just don't normally show the
> > folders list showing)
>
> > I just tried to send this reply after clicking on the link, but it
> > would not send it - saying there was no sender specified    please
> > check your news configuration.
>
> > So have returnd to my ogininal method/newsgroup to send this (which is
> > also listed as -

> > microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress................at.­........msnews.microsoft.com....as

> > you can see in the left of the box...ctrl+w.
>
> >http://i46.tinypic.com/29ehzjr.jpg
>
> > Cheers............Steve
>

> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> >news:%238kaGP2...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> Repost: When you click on the following link...
>

> >> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlo­okexpress

> >>>> "moonraker" <invalid.inva...@invalid.com> wrote in message

> >>>>news:e6u9HLTp...@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >>>>> Hi Bruce,
>
> >>>>> Can you see this thread?
>
> >>>>> Can you now see my other thread that PA cannot see?
>
> >>>>> Many thanks
>
> >>>>> Steve
>
> >>>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nos...@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:ua%23IrPPp...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>> I don't recall seeing any posts here in quite some time with
> >>>>>> "Compacting"
> >>>>>> in the subject field. Sure you didn't see them somewhere else?
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>>           Bruce Hagen
> >>>>>>         MS-MVP [Mail]
> >>>>>>      Imperial Beach, CA
>

> >>>>>> "moonraker" <invalid.inva...@invalid.com> wrote in message