stolen ownership, round 2, isnt this illegal?
GUESSIMNOTTHEOWNER
HIS CONTROL, SAME AS ALWAYS. IS THAT NOT ILLEGAL? I THOUGHT I REBOOTED AND
DISABLED HARDWARE SUCCESSFULLY WEEKS AGO. THOUGHT I WAS FREE AND CLEAR,
SUSPECTED OTHERWISE (YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE THE OWNER AND YOU COME ACCROSS
FILES YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO, SOMETHING'S WRONG). I WANT TO BE OFF ANY
NETWORK. I DON'T WANT TO SHARE MY FILES. I AM BEING NETWORKED AND OWNED
AGAINST MY WILL. HOW CAN I GET MY PC BACK? I'LL GIVE SOMEONE REMOTE ACCESS IF
THEY WOULD JUST CLEAR THE WHOLE MEMORY AND REINSTALL THE OS SO I CAN START
NEW. ALONE! THX
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'69 Camaro
First, you've posted to the security newsgroup for Microsoft Access, the
database product that's part of the Microsoft Office productivity suite, and
is dedicated to security issues for this application, so your posts aren't
likely to receive replies that will help you. Second, it sounds like you
are a minor whom your parents are responsible for at all times, including
when you use your computer. If this is the case, then they have a legal
responsibility to monitor your activities, regardless of whether or not you
think it an invasion of your privacy. Third, typing in all caps is
considered shouting on the Internet, and when used for more than a sentence
or a phrase or two, it's considered quite rude.
> I WANT TO BE OFF ANY
> NETWORK. I DON'T WANT TO SHARE MY FILES. I AM BEING NETWORKED AND OWNED
> AGAINST MY WILL.
I seriously doubt you want to be off of _any_ network. You want to be off
of your father's network, not the Internet's network. If I'm wrong about
this, then all you need to do is remove any NIC cards from your computer
(both the wireless network cards and the network cards where an Ethernet
cable plugs into your computer), and the modem, and no one will be able to
see or use your files unless they have a physical presence at your computer.
> AGAINST MY WILL. HOW CAN I GET MY PC BACK? I'LL GIVE SOMEONE REMOTE ACCESS
> IF
> THEY WOULD JUST CLEAR THE WHOLE MEMORY AND REINSTALL THE OS SO I CAN START
> NEW. ALONE!
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'69 Camaro
ready to. ;-)
> HOW CAN I GET MY PC BACK? I'LL GIVE SOMEONE REMOTE ACCESS IF THEY WOULD
> JUST CLEAR THE WHOLE MEMORY AND REINSTALL THE OS SO I CAN START NEW.
> ALONE!
This isn't the brilliant idea that it sounds like. Many hucksters would
love to get remote access to a computer novice's computer so that they can
set up remote file sharing. The novice would never suspect a thing, and
when the police do a raid, the novice is left to explain how those child
pornography pictures got on the hard drive. Even if it's just pirated
videos or software applications being downloaded from your hard drive to
other people across the Internet, you'll have to explain how those files got
there, and in the meantime you'll have reduced Internet bandwidth, CPU
cycles, and hard drive space, because the freeloaders' files will take it
all from you.
If your Dad was generous enough to give you a PC, then be thankful for the
gift and the opportunity to learn valuable computer skills. If you have
reached the age of majority and don't live under the same roof as your
parents, then you have a legal right to privacy on your computer, and you
should seek legal counsel if any family member is intentionally spying on
you and causing malicious mischief on your computer. If this is the case,
then you should also take your computer to a computer specialist who will
wipe the hard drive and install an operating system for you, so that you can
install the rest of your software applications yourself.
But I suspect that you want someone to do this last part remotely so that
your father doesn't know what's going on in his kid's bedroom. But trust me
that he's going to find out very, very quickly, and you will have to face
the consequences for trying to be sneaky.
HTH.
Gunny
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GUESSIMNOTTHEOWNER
minor. im frustrated which blurs my attempt to explain whats happening to the
best of my knowledge in the correct forum or newsgroup whatever. i take it
theres no way he could have wireless access to my computer? at one point i
disabled the network hardware or components and actually i doubt i could
explain to you exactly what i did. if you dont have the right info you cant
help. i am just waiting to talk to a tech or maybe have someone access me and
do the diagnostics the right way so i can get disconnected. thanks anyway...
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'69 Camaro
> i take it
> theres no way he could have wireless access to my computer?
He could, but in order to do so, you have to have a wireless network card
connected to your computer or to the router that your computer is networked
to, and he'd have to be within close proximity with a computer that can
receive the signal, or have a "repeater" repeat the signal to a network that
can receive it. So, that "close proximity" can be within 300 feet, or
within many hundreds of miles in the case of a network of repeaters.
> i am just waiting to talk to a tech or maybe have someone access me and
> do the diagnostics the right way so i can get disconnected.
"Waiting to talk to a tech"? Are you expecting that technician to reply to
your newsgroup messages or did you call a tech on the phone and leave a
message with your phone number so that he can call you back? If it's the
former, then be advised that most of the people who will reply to your
messages posted to the technical newsgroups _are_ techs, either as a
vocation or as a hobby. However, we're all volunteers who offer technical
advice to others who are trying to walk down the paths we've walked before
and need a little help to get pointed in the right direction. If you need
actual tech support to do what you can't do yourself, then you need to find
a friend or relative to help you, or else you need to hire tech support. If
you don't trust your Dad to do this, then ask your friends who they'd
recommend or consult the Yellow Pages in your area for reputable computer
technicians, and bring your computer to them. Don't let some stranger on
the Internet have remote access to your computer, even if he offers to do it
for free, because the chances are just too high that it will be a hacker who
wants to use your computer for illegal activities.
And are you sure that it's your Dad networked to your computer and not a
hacker? Hackers put spyware on computers all the time, so that they can
remotely control the computer and monitor activities, particularly User ID's
and passwords at bank Web sites and usage of credit cards. Do you have
anti-spyware installed on your computer to prevent and detect spyware? Do
you have a hardware firewall on your router and a software firewall on your
computer? These will stop hackers from accessing your computer if they're
configured properly. Have a computer technician set up firewalls for you if
you can't figure out how to do it correctly yourself.
HTH.
Gunny
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<SNIP>
>> Sorry. I accidentally hit the keyboard and sent that message before I
>> was
>> ready to. ;-)
>
>>> HOW CAN I GET MY PC BACK? I'LL GIVE SOMEONE REMOTE ACCESS IF THEY
>>> WOULD JUST CLEAR THE WHOLE MEMORY AND REINSTALL THE OS SO I CAN >>>
>>> START NEW. ALONE!
>
>> This isn't the brilliant idea that it sounds like. Many hucksters would
>> love to get remote access to a computer novice's computer so that they
>> can
>> set up remote file sharing. The novice would never suspect a thing, and
>> when the police do a raid, the novice is left to explain how those child
>> pornography pictures got on the hard drive. Even if it's just pirated
>> videos or software applications being downloaded from your hard drive to
>> other people across the Internet, you'll have to explain how those files
>> got
>> there, and in the meantime you'll have reduced Internet bandwidth, CPU
>> cycles, and hard drive space, because the freeloaders' files will take it
>> all from you.
>>
>> If your Dad was generous enough to give you a PC, then be thankful for
>> the
>> gift and the opportunity to learn valuable computer skills. If you have
>> reached the age of majority and don't live under the same roof as your
>> parents, then you have a legal right to privacy on your computer, and you
>> should seek legal counsel if any family member is intentionally spying on
>> you and causing malicious mischief on your computer. If this is the
>> case,
>> then you should also take your computer to a computer specialist who will
>> wipe the hard drive and install an operating system for you, so that you
>> can
>> install the rest of your software applications yourself.
>>
>> But I suspect that you want someone to do this last part remotely so that
>> your father doesn't know what's going on in his kid's bedroom. But trust
>> me
>> that he's going to find out very, very quickly, and you will have to face
>> the consequences for trying to be sneaky.
>>
>> HTH.
>> Gunny
>>
>> See http://www.QBuilt.com for all your database needs.
>> See http://www.Access.QBuilt.com for Microsoft Access tips and tutorials.
>> http://www.Access.QBuilt.com/html/expert_contributors2.html for contact
>> info.
GUESSIMNOTTHEOWNER
computer-illiterate, not some half-wit moron. ofcourse i got tech support
elsewhere, you should know microsoft support is more user friendly than ever,
so even idiots like me have a chance... i couldnt read your response, it was
too long and i didnt ask for all the opinionated judgemental assumptions you
keep throwing at me. i do appreciate the fact you offered any valid response
whatsoever. you're offended because i have all caps, but i dont know you from
adam and you talk to me as if you can't stand me just because i asked for
help in the wrong way, in the wrong place, etc. give it a rest, huh? try
being civil or even friendly. if you cant do that please dont communicate
with me. thanks
'69 Camaro
> wow i dont know if you're more hateful or helpful.
I wouldn't bother replying if it were a hateful response. Your wording and
writing skills in your first two posts and the user profile you wrote
produced a very strong impression of an indignant teenager who wants help to
get out from under Dad's thumb.
> i said i was
> computer-illiterate, not some half-wit moron. ofcourse i got tech support
> elsewhere
Why did you offer to give a complete stranger remote access to your computer
to wipe the operating system to fix this problem for you, if you had
received tech support elsewhere? If this stranger wipes your operating
system and installs a new one, whatever steps your tech support did to fix
the problem will be annihilated, so your money will have been wasted.
> you should know microsoft support is more user friendly than ever,
> so even idiots like me have a chance
At $245 per incident for phone tech support after the first one, they're
very, very friendly, and reliable, too. At least they won't rip you off.
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&x=11&y=12&prid=6689&gprid=36052
> i couldnt read your response, it was
> too long
The Web newsreader isn't very handy. In the middle pane on your screen,
double-click on the post's subject line or on the name of any of the people
who posted a message, and a new window will open up with the entire "thread"
of posts, making for much easier reading. Or just use Google Groups to read
the entire thread on the following Web page:
> i didnt ask for all the opinionated judgemental assumptions you
> keep throwing at me.
Then I take it you're not a registered Republican, but you've lived much of
your life being bossed around by a number of them. Doh! There I go again.
> you're offended because i have all caps
It doesn't bother me, but most people consider it rude to shout
continuously, and to Internet readers, all caps means shouting. If you've
typed all caps throughout your message, then you were probably unaware of
this. Wouldn't you want someone to tell you when you have spinach between
your teeth before you get up in front of an audience? I have no qualms
about letting you know. It's in your best interest.
> i dont know you from
> adam and you talk to me as if you can't stand me just because i asked for
> help in the wrong way, in the wrong place, etc. give it a rest, huh?
I pointed out why you won't get the help you're seeking if you're here "just
waiting to talk to a tech," as you put it, and I pointed out why it's risky
to solicit complete strangers to remotely access your computer. I mentioned
these things because I don't want you to think you're being ignored when
you're obviously upset, and I don't want you to become a victim like oh so
many young people who are offered free services from someone claiming to be
an expert:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12409277
I also tried to set you straight on some of your erroneous assumptions about
how your computer works, and advised you to get a computer technician to set
up your fire walls if you can't do it correctly yourself, because if it's
not done correctly, it's worthless. Computer novices have a difficult time
with implementing security, but you can't afford to guess on this, so get a
computer technician to do it if you have trouble. I also suggested that you
seek legal counsel if you've reached the age of majority and don't live in
the same household as your parents, since this would be an invasion of your
privacy if it were intentional, as well as malicious mischief if he's
preventing you from using your computer's files. That's hardly "talk as if
you can't stand me." As a response, you claimed that you are almost 25, but
not that you aren't still living with your Dad and using his Internet
connection, yet expecting to be free from his network. If you're living
under your Dad's roof, then you have to live by his rules, even if you're
over 18. That's Dad's Rule #1 the world over.
> try
> being civil or even friendly. if you cant do that please dont communicate
> with me.
You're taking your anger out on the wrong person. Letting you know what to
expect as a first-time newsgroup poster and how to avoid being taken by some
shyster on the Internet is considered to be friendly advice. Politely
setting you straight on your misconceptions about your computer was also
giving you friendly advice. Sorry you don't see it that way, but since your
satisfaction is 100% guaranteed, we'll give you a full refund of the price
you paid the company I work for for my advice. Just submit your receipt.
Have a nice day.
Gunny
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