I have previously downloaded and opened the 1:250000 raster maps without
problems. Do you keep the TAB and the corresponding TIF in the same folder?
Regards
Uffe Kousgaard
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Hello KellieYou can download the tab files with georeferences from the OS website - http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/products/georeferencing/aboutpopup.htmlSueSusan D Beetlestone
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Kellie,
If you delete the new tab files created by MapInfo and then take the original tab files (the ones that came with the tiffs) and put them in the same folder as the tiffs you downloaded they should open without any problems (they should already be georeferenced).
HTH,
Hi Kellie,
To create a seamless table:
Open only the tab files you want added to the seamless table (your OS tiles).
Go to Seamless Manager (this is in the tools menu; you may need to load it using Tool Manager – tick the box under ‘Loaded’ next to the Seamless Manager entry)
Click on ‘New Seamless Table…’ under Seamless Manager menu
This will ask you where you want to save the seamless table, give it a filename and click save
It should then give you a message saying that a seamless table was created from x number of tab files (or something along those lines).
You should now be able to open the seamless tab which you just created, and this should provide you with all the tiles you had open when the seamless table was created.
Hope that helps,
Hi Kellie,
Sounds like you’re having a bit of a nightmare with this!
Not sure what the error means… You could try and create a seamless table from a smaller selection of tab files and then append (Seamless Manager –> Append to Seamless Table…) the rest bit by bit to the seamless table. Not ideal, but it could be the solution if you are trying to create a seamless table from thousands of tabs. Otherwise, I’m not sure what to suggest. Perhaps someone else might be able to shed some light?
HTH,
Kellie,
If you go back to seamless manager and select ‘Turn Seamless On’ this should load the tiles rather than the tile boundaries (the black frames). You may need to reopen the map window for this to take effect.
Having made StreetView into seamless tables I reckon the practical limit for the number of image tiles that can go into one seamless table is about 1,500.
We do offer StreetView for MapInfo with a set of seamless tables (basically in E-W strips across the country) for £99 + VAT.
Regards
Tim
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From:
mapi...@googlegroups.com [mailto:mapi...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelskie
Sent: 04 March 2011 16:31
To: mapi...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MI-L] Loading free
OS tiles
Oh no, I tried to create new seamless table and I get an error!
It says Unknown dialogue failure, possibly invalid file names for the current platform.
Does anyone know how to create a seamless file when this error occurs?
Thanks
On 4 March 2011 16:16, kelskie <kel...@gmail.com> wrote:
Kellie,
You can try:
Tools à Seamless Manager à Seamless Options
Set this to ‘Full Path’.
HTH,
Kellie,
The following should work:
1) Open all tab files you want included in your seamless table and add them all to one map window. (they may need splitting into groups if there are many)
2) Go to Seamless Manager à New Seamless Table
3) Save the seamless layer to the same directory as the original constituent tab files (or to a different directory if the ‘Full Path’ option is used)
Now if you close all the tables open and then just open the seamless table on its own, it should display all of the constituent tables as one table.
First, make sure the Seamless Table Manager is loaded
Tools > Tool manager > Seamless Table Manager > Tick “Loaded”
This adds a “ Seamless Manager” menu to the Tools menu
Open a (small) selection of tiles into the same map window
Choose “Seamless options” and select Full Path
Then pick “New seamless table” and choose where you want to save it
MapInfo creates a seamless table from the open tiles
You can add further tiles by using the “Append to seamless table” menu, or….
If you turn the seamless table off and then look at the seamless table in a browser, you’ll see that one column contains the file reference and another the tile description. You can use Excel or a similar tool to create this information and then append it to the table without having to add each tile individually. To do this, you’ll first need a list of all the tiles you want to add. Assuming these are all in the same folder, running the command “Dir/b > list.txt” drom a DOS command line will create a list of all the files in a folder. This can then be manipulated and the results imported into MapInfo for appending to the seamless table.
Hope that helps.
Ensure no tables are open by using File>Close all.
Open only the images you want to use in the seamless table. Each must have a tab file and be in the same projection (in this case GB Grid). Do not try to open more than about 1500.
If they all open without problems you are ready. There are only two settings on a seamless table - full path or no path. You will find this under Seamless Options. If you are going to save the seamless tab file into the SAME folder as the images (all of them) then use No Path. Otherwise you MUST use Full Path.
Choose Create New Seamless Table, specify a name and save folder, and wait until the message 'x images have been added to seamless table y' appears.
You are done. Close all and open the seamless table instead.
Tim
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> *From:* mapi...@googlegroups.com [mailto:mapi...@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *kelskie
> *Sent:* 07 March 2011 15:42
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> *To:* mapi...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [MI-L] Loading free OS tiles
>
>
>
> Thanks John
>
> I am still having problems, I can't create a seamless table/layer as it
> says I need the full path name or something. When I turn seamless tool on, I
> get a box that says 'pick a table' with an 'ok' button but there is nothing
> to pick. Where am I going wrong? If I can create semaless tabs for England,
> Scotland etc. then I will be a very happy mapper!!!
>
> Thanks again
>
> Kellie
>
> On 4 March 2011 16:45, CDR Group <sa...@cdrgroup.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Kellie
>
>
>
> How many tables have you got open?
>
> Which OS product is it?
>
>
>
> You may be better off grouping these into manageable chunks e.g England,
> Scotland and Wales.
>
>
>
> If you are using OS StreetView you may need to group into the 100km squares
> e.g. NS, SK, TQ etc.
>
> Some 100km squares don't have too many map tiles, so you could group a few
> together.
>
> http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/gi/nationalgrid/nghelp1.html
>
> OV is my favourite!!!
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>
>
> John Ievers
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----- Original Message -----From: kelskie
Open the TAB files. They contain the co-ordinate information necessary to get the tiles to appear in the right place. Open the tiles you want in the same map window – this seems to be where you’re going wrong.
Then follow the instructions in Tim’s email below or my email yesterday.
Kellie,
You should be opening the tab files. If you open the tiffs MapInfo will create new tab files (hence the question to display or register and the overwrite prompt) and you will need to register these for them to be geolocated properly. So, if you have overwritten the tab files which were originally provided with the data, you will need to copy these back into the folder. The second thing to note is that the tab files you’ve opened to add to a seamless table all need to be in the same map window (you can do this when you open the files… select all the tab files you want and set preferred view to New Mapper). So, assuming you have opened all the tab files you want included and they are all in the same map window, you can now create the seamless table following the instructions provided yesterday. (Remember to set to Full Path if you are saving the seamless layer to a different location to that of your tab files)
From: mapi...@googlegroups.com [mailto:mapi...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelskie
Sent: 08 March 2011 09:49
As a general rule when opening a table you are always best to replace the ‘Display in’ box where it says Automatic with either Current Mapper or New Mapper. You can still use Current Mapper even if there isn’t a map window open as it will just create one. If you leave it on automatic then MapInfo will more or less randomly open the tables in one or more map windows. Technically I think a table goes into a different mapper if there is something slightly different about the co-ordinate system, but if you are opening a 100 images it seems pretty random.
It sounds like your problem has been not having the images in the same map window.
If it still does not work then I think you should consider the £99 + VAT to get a copy of our set! I don’t know how you value your time but if you have spent three weeks on it then I would be pretty fed up by now!
Regards
Tim
Dr Tim Rideout
Director
XYZ Win Awards - At the International Map Trade Show in Italy on Feb 18th, the National Geographic map of Scotland won the Silver Award for Best Flat Map (made by XYZ from People's Map data), and at the British Cartographic Society on June 10th 2010 our Postcode Sector Map - London won the Stanfords Award for Best Printed Map 2010.
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From:
mapi...@googlegroups.com [mailto:mapi...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelskie
Sent: 07 March 2011 18:16
To: mapi...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MI-L] Loading free
OS tiles
Thanks Tim, but it doesn't matter how many OS tiles (tab files) I open, it only joins the last lot I opened. I am opening in Automatic so they are all separate is that correct? Or do I have to open in current mapper? If so, do I open one of the tab files then load all other tabs into current mapper?
I have gone through this over and over again and it says you have created a seamless layer with 4 tables, even tho I have opened every tile in the H folders! What am I doing wrong? SHould I be opening the tiff files and not the tabs? When I do this is says do you want to overwrite, I say yes and it says do you want to display or register? When I say display, they all go into the same square, when I say register, it wants co-ordinates! I thought the tab files acted as coordinates?
It would be great if it was as easy as you say.... hope you can shed some light
Thanks again
On 7 March 2011 16:50, Tim Rideout <tim.r...@xyzmaps.com> wrote:
The tiles may be set to display in a zoom range – in which case, if you zoom out too far you won’t be able to see them. But this wouldn’t stop you adding them to a seamless table, and they’ll magically re-appear if you zoom in at the right place.
If there is an asterisk against them in the Layer Control then they are switched off due to being outside the Zoom / Reveal settings. You can either zoom in or change the setting by double clicking the layer name and unticking the box against ‘Display within Zoom Range’.
If your images are all in separate folders like HU, HP, etc then you MUST use Full Path in your seamless options setting.
Maybe you might do a MapInfo course? I know it costs but if you had somebody to demonstrate these techniques it sounds like it could save you a lot of time and hassle, and you would probably find there are loads of things you can do that you haven’t realised are there.
Tim
Dr Tim Rideout
Director
XYZ Win Awards - At the International Map Trade Show in Italy on Feb 18th, the National Geographic map of Scotland won the Silver Award for Best Flat Map (made by XYZ from People's Map data), and at the British Cartographic Society on June 10th 2010 our Postcode Sector Map - London won the Stanfords Award for Best Printed Map 2010.
Visit XYZ at British Cartographic Society 8/10th June 2011, and Frankfurt Book Fair October 2011.
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From:
mapi...@googlegroups.com [mailto:mapi...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelskie
Sent: 08 March 2011 12:01
To: mapi...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MI-L] Loading free
OS tiles
Thanks so much everyone. Still havng problems. Is it bacuase I have all my tab files in different folders ie HT, HU etc.? I can only open from one folder at a time obviously. I have opened a big batch in New Mapper as suggested, which works, but when I have tried opening more tab files into current mapper, they do not show. They are listed in the layer palette but when I turn off the first set I opened, I get a blank page. Where are those tab files if I can't see them on the map but they are lsited in layers? These are all files from open...@ordnancesurvey.co.uk
I dont know what I am doing differently as I did manage to get a map with more than one folder of tabs the other day. 1 step forward, 2 steps back...
Thanks again
On 8 March 2011 11:06, Tim Rideout <tim.r...@xyzmaps.com> wrote:
Obviously not as good as my course then! J
You can’t join seamless tables together.
I did spend quite a long time on trying to get one seamless table for the OS StreetView tiles, but I concluded it was impossible. The most images I got into one seamless table was just under 2000, and you would need to get over 10,000 into the table to cover all of GB.
Regards
Tim
Dr Tim Rideout
Director
XYZ Win Awards - At the International Map Trade Show in Italy on Feb 18th, the National Geographic map of Scotland won the Silver Award for Best Flat Map (made by XYZ from People's Map data), and at the British Cartographic Society on June 10th 2010 our Postcode Sector Map - London won the Stanfords Award for Best Printed Map 2010.
Visit XYZ at British Cartographic Society 8/10th June 2011, and Frankfurt Book Fair October 2011.
The XYZ Digital
Map Company
Unit 9-11 Hardengreen Bus.Pk.
Dalhousie Road,
Dalkeith,
EH22 3NX
Tele: +44 (0) 131 454 0426
Mobile: +44 (0) 7766 825937
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From:
mapi...@googlegroups.com [mailto:mapi...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelskie
Sent: 08 March 2011 12:45
To: mapi...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MI-L] Loading free
OS tiles
Thanks Tim, believe it or not, I did a course nearly 2 years ago and seamless was not mentioned.
I think I am getting somewhere, I chose the full path option yesterday but it defaulted back so wasn't on.
If I make a strip of the UK as 1 seamless file, can I then create a new seamless file from each strip I have made? I think I tried it and it said I couldn't create a semaless table from another. Does anyone know how to do this?
Thanks again Mappers
On 8 March 2011 12:09, Tim Rideout <tim.r...@xyzmaps.com> wrote:
Hi Tim,
Not sure that is true as I know of at least to people who have seamless tables Streetview as well as me!
I have emailed to offer it to Kellie but I have had no response to that.
For anyone who is a member of the MapInfo User UK and Ireland (www.muguki.com) they can download the seamless tables for Streetview and the raster version of Vectormap.
Regards
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Hi Kellie,
You would have to Combine all the CSV files into one file and then use the table > create points option and use the coordinate columns.
However you might be better to get the data resupplied by Pitney Bowes who have done all the processing for you
Have a look at http://www.pbinsight.eu/uk/products/data/mapping-data/os-opendata/
From: mapi...@googlegroups.com [mailto:mapi...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelskie
Sent: 10 March 2011 10:54
To: mapi...@googlegroups.com
Hi again Kellie,
The CodePoint data comes complete with a set of grid references for each post code. Open the table as normal in MapInfo, then go to Table à Create Points
Select the correct columns (containing the eastings and northings) and make sure your projection is set to British National Grid (click the projection button on the create points dialog box). Once it’s done, you should be able to open a mapper with all your CodePoint data as points.
From: mapi...@googlegroups.com [mailto:mapi...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelskie
Sent: 10 March 2011 10:54
To: mapi...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MI-L] Re: Loading
free OS tiles
Hi everyone, as you were all SO helpful in my free OS tile/seamless problems, I would like to know if anyone has had any luck in opening the free Postcode data (Code point open) that I downloaded from the OS site. They are all CSV files but I have no clue how to load them. I have opened them in a current mapper but I just get tables with loads of data, no post points on my map. Maybe I am not supposed to get the post code points?
Kellie,
The data Martin linked to IS free! Only difference between getting it from OS and PB is that PB have already processed the data for use with MapInfo (i.e. tab files), hence saving you some time and effort.
Regards,
begin_metadata
"\IsSeamless" = "TRUE"
end_metadata
The limit on the number of entries in a seamless layer should be the
same as the normal limits for objects in a TAB file, the problems arise
when you accidentally choose view entire layer on such a table!
Andy
Sue Beetlestone wrote:
> Hello Martin
>
> Just thought you'd like to know!
>
> There are 10578 tabs in our seamless layer of Streetview.
>
> Sue
>
> Susan D Beetlestone
> Uwch Swyddog GIS Corfforaethol ac ALO/Senior Corporate GIS Officer & ALO
> BPU IT
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> LD1 5LG
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>
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> *From:* mapi...@googlegroups.com [mailto:mapi...@googlegroups.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Martin Hodder
> *Sent:* 08 March 2011 13:19
> *To:* mapi...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [MI-L] Loading free OS tiles
>
> Hi Tim,
>
>
>
> Not sure that is true as I know of at least to people who have seamless
> tables Streetview as well as me!
>
>
>
> I have emailed to offer it to Kellie but I have had no response to that.
>
>
>
> For anyone who is a member of the MapInfo User UK and Ireland
> (www.muguki.com <http://www.muguki.com>) they can download the seamless
> tables for Streetview and the raster version of Vectormap.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Martin Hodder
> Higher Mapping Solutions
> www.highermappingsolutions.com
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* mapi...@googlegroups.com [mailto:mapi...@googlegroups.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Tim Rideout
> *Sent:* 08 March 2011 12:50
> *To:* mapi...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [MI-L] Loading free OS tiles
>
>
>
> Obviously not as good as my course then! J
>
>
>
> You can’t join seamless tables together.
>
>
>
> I did spend quite a long time on trying to get one seamless table for
> the OS StreetView tiles, but I concluded it was impossible. The most
> images I got into one seamless table was just under 2000, and you would
> need to get over 10,000 into the table to cover all of GB.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> Dr Tim Rideout
>
> Director
>
>
>
> /*XYZ*/* Win Awards - At the International Map Trade Show in Italy on
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>
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