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kelskie

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Mar 3, 2011, 8:25:21 AM3/3/11
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Hi all, can anyone help me load free OS data into MapInfo
professional? I have downloaded all the files from
https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/opendatadownload/products.html but
when I try to add the TAB files in my layer window, it just says
unable to load. No reason, no help, nothing.
I tried adding the .TIFF files but without georeferencing, they all
laid on top of one another.
I would appreciate any help anyone may have.
Thanks in advance
Kellie

Uffe Kousgaard

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Mar 3, 2011, 8:40:02 AM3/3/11
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Hi,

I have previously downloaded and opened the 1:250000 raster maps without
problems. Do you keep the TAB and the corresponding TIF in the same folder?

Regards
Uffe Kousgaard

Martin Spiers

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Mar 3, 2011, 8:40:42 AM3/3/11
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Try copying the .tab files into the same directory as the .tiffs.

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kelskie

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Mar 3, 2011, 8:46:38 AM3/3/11
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Hi, thanks yes I do have them in the same folder but only bacuase when I loaded the tiff files, MapInfo generated a TAB file for each TIFF.
 
I assume I just 'open' tab or tiff files into current mapper but it is asking me for coordinates. Did you have to do that?
 
Thanks so much
 
Kellie

kelskie

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Mar 3, 2011, 8:48:33 AM3/3/11
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HI, thanks I do have them in the same folder but only bacuase when I loaded the tiff files, MapInfo generated a TAB file for each TIFF. There are duplicate tab files in a separate folder too.

 
I assume I just 'open' tab or tiff files into current mapper but it is asking me for coordinates. Did you have to do that?
 
thanks again

kelskie

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Mar 3, 2011, 9:02:14 AM3/3/11
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Hi Sue
 
Thanks for your reply. I already have all the tab files but they will not load in MapInfo. I just get an error message saying 'unable to load'. When I tried loading the TIFF files, MapInfo generated TAB files automatically. So I have TABs in same folder as TIFFs and I have other folders with duplicate TAB files.
 
I have tired to load the tiff files again by choosing open (tiff file) into current mapper and now it is asking for coordinates. How do I get these and enter them?
 
Thanks again
 
Kellie

On 3 March 2011 13:57, Sue Beetlestone <sus...@powys.gov.uk> wrote:
Hello Kellie
 
You can download the tab files with georeferences from the OS website - http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/products/georeferencing/aboutpopup.html
 
Sue
 
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Uffe Kousgaard

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Mar 3, 2011, 9:03:30 AM3/3/11
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Hi,

At least for the 1:250000 maps, the TAB files are already included in a sub folder. You have to move them and delete the ones MapInfo created for you.

With these TAB files, no questions are asked.

Regards
Uffe

Thomas Bacon

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Mar 3, 2011, 9:06:29 AM3/3/11
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Kellie,

 

If you delete the new tab files created by MapInfo and then take the original tab files (the ones that came with the tiffs) and put them in the same folder as the tiffs you downloaded they should open without any problems (they should already be georeferenced).

 

HTH,

 

Tom Bacon

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CDR Group

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Mar 3, 2011, 9:09:58 AM3/3/11
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Kellie
 
I can see that something has gone wrong here.
You have already generated some tab files for your tif files.
 
I would recommend deleting all of the tab files that are in the folder with the tif files.
Then copy in the correct tab files from Ordnance Survey - they contain all of the geo-referencing.
 
You may also have a lot more tab files than tif files, if you are not using all of Great Britain.
If it is OS StreetView, there are 10,586 tiles.
So discard the tab files where you do not have a tif file - otherwise MapInfo will say "unable to load"...
 
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Sue Beetlestone

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Mar 3, 2011, 8:57:53 AM3/3/11
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Hello Kellie
 
You can download the tab files with georeferences from the OS website - http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/products/georeferencing/aboutpopup.html
 
Sue
 
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Sue Beetlestone

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Hello Kellie
 
If your tab files in the same folder as the tiffs were generated by Mapinfo when you opened the tiff files - (you would have got a dialogue asking you whether you wanted to register or just display the tiffs) you will need to overwrite them with the tab files you downloaded from the OS.
 
Hope this helps
 
Sue
 
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kelskie

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Mar 3, 2011, 12:39:33 PM3/3/11
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Hi John
 
Thanks so much for getting back to me. I have managed to load all the OS 250k raster files that were in one folder.
 
I have now started on the 48 folders of VectorMap District files!
 
I can't tell you how many problems I had had trying to load this.
 
Thanks again, you really made my day! GOing out for a drink to celebrate now :)
 
All the best
 
Kellie

kelskie

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Mar 3, 2011, 12:40:06 PM3/3/11
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Thanks to everyone who has helped me with loading Free OS data, you have saved us a fortune!

kelskie

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Mar 4, 2011, 6:07:36 AM3/4/11
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Hi Everyone, thanks for your help yesterday loading free OS data.
 
After all that effort, I now can't open the Workspace, it just crashes and says not responding.
 
I am the only user at my office and find it hard without any support. I do feel bad asking PB for help when the data wasn't bought from them.
 
I thought maybe I would try to open the tiles in different mappers (Automatic) then use the seamless tool but I am totally clueless and find the help menu pretty unhelpful.
 
If anyone can explain, in really basic terms how to do this, I would be most grateful
 
Thanks again
 
Kellie

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Thomas Bacon

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Hi Kellie,

 

To create a seamless table:

 

Open only the tab files you want added to the seamless table (your OS tiles).

Go to Seamless Manager (this is in the tools menu; you may need to load it using Tool Manager – tick the box under ‘Loaded’ next to the Seamless Manager entry)

Click on ‘New Seamless Table…’ under Seamless Manager menu

This will ask you where you want to save the seamless table, give it a filename and click save

It should then give you a message saying that a seamless table was created from x number of tab files (or something along those lines).

 

You should now be able to open the seamless tab which you just created, and this should provide you with all the tiles you had open when the seamless table was created.

 

Hope that helps,

 

Tom Bacon

Graduate GIS Engineer

Asset Management South

Tel: 01444 472380

www.mouchel.com

 

kelskie

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Mar 4, 2011, 11:16:40 AM3/4/11
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Hey Tom
 
thanks so much for this help. I have spent most of today loading the thousands of OS tiles I have for the whole of the UK, I now can't open any more! Can I make one seamless file then add more later when my open button works? Also I'm keen to get this done today so if I run out of time, I don't want to have wasted a whole day opening files.
 
Hope you can help
 
Thanks again
 
Kellie

kelskie

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Mar 4, 2011, 11:18:54 AM3/4/11
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Oh no, I tried to create new seamless table and I get an error!
 
It says Unknown dialogue failure, possibly invalid file names for the current platform.
 
Does anyone know how to create a seamless file when this error occurs?
 
Thanks

Thomas Bacon

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Mar 4, 2011, 11:40:29 AM3/4/11
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Hi Kellie,

 

Sounds like you’re having a bit of a nightmare with this!

 

Not sure what the error means… You could try and create a seamless table from a smaller selection of tab files and then append (Seamless Manager –> Append to Seamless Table…) the rest bit by bit to the seamless table.  Not ideal, but it could be the solution if you are trying to create a seamless table from thousands of tabs.  Otherwise, I’m not sure what to suggest. Perhaps someone else might be able to shed some light?

 

HTH,

CDR Group

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Mar 4, 2011, 11:45:03 AM3/4/11
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Kellie
 
How many tables have you got open?
Which OS product is it?
 
You may be better off grouping these into manageable chunks e.g England, Scotland and Wales.
 
If you are using OS StreetView you may need to group into the 100km squares e.g. NS, SK, TQ etc.
Some 100km squares don't have too many map tiles, so you could group a few together.
OV is my favourite!!!

kelskie

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Mar 4, 2011, 11:53:37 AM3/4/11
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Thanks, it bascially crashed and I had to end program. I have opened again and tried using a selection (less than a 1/4 of the folders I have) and it only put 2 tiles together. Not only that, all I could see was 2 boxes on top of eachother with a thin black frame, no OS tiles at all!
Do you think if I get the free upgrade of MapInfo pro that it might help? The version I have is 9.5.1 and I have seen the new one which looks much easier to use!
Thanks again

kelskie

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Hi John, I have 49 folders and OV is my favourite too! As you may know some of those folders have 100 files in so I think my system just found it too much to handle.
 
I am using MapInfo pro 9.5.1 but an due an upgrade. Do you think using the new version might help?
 
I have tried it with a smaller folder (HP the first one, which has 6 files) When I open those 6 files, I only get 3 tiles but I see that the codes for each tile are listed at the top (1 tile has 3 of the HP tabs). After following the process to creat a seamless tab I get a message saying HP was created using 3 tables. When I say OK, I get a second message 'seamless table created but could not be opened seamless. The full path option may be required'. When I open that new tab file, I can see 3 boxes with thin black frame and no OS tiles at all.
 
I have been having problems with this for weeks and am getting quite frustrated. i have so far found this group to be MUCH more helpful than PB support.
 
Really hope someone can help
 
thanks again

Thomas Bacon

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Mar 4, 2011, 12:09:17 PM3/4/11
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Kellie,

 

If you go back to seamless manager and select ‘Turn Seamless On’ this should load the tiles rather than the tile boundaries (the black frames). You may need to reopen the map window for this to take effect.

Tim Rideout

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Having made StreetView into seamless tables I reckon the practical limit for the number of image tiles that can go into one seamless table is about 1,500.

 

We do offer StreetView for MapInfo with a set of seamless tables (basically in E-W strips across the country) for £99 + VAT.

 

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Oh no, I tried to create new seamless table and I get an error!

 

It says Unknown dialogue failure, possibly invalid file names for the current platform.

 

Does anyone know how to create a seamless file when this error occurs?

 

Thanks

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kelskie

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Tom,
 
When I turn it on it asks me to chose a table and has an OK button in the window. There is nothing in the window to chose. What should I be seeing? Sorry if I sound like an idiot, I do DTP using Adobe CS4 so this map stuff is all a bit beyond me..
thanks

kelskie

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Thanks John
I am still having problems, I can't create a seamless table/layer as it says I need the full path name or something. When I turn seamless tool on, I get a box that says 'pick a table' with an 'ok' button but there is nothing to pick. Where am I going wrong? If I can create semaless tabs for England, Scotland etc. then I will be a very happy mapper!!!
Thanks again
Kellie

Thomas Bacon

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Mar 7, 2011, 10:44:41 AM3/7/11
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Kellie,

 

You can try:

 

Tools à Seamless Manager à Seamless Options

 

Set this to ‘Full Path’.

 

HTH,

kelskie

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Mar 7, 2011, 11:08:56 AM3/7/11
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Thanks Tom
 
Would you mind awfully telling me how to actually go about combining these files? I really have no clue! Do I need to open all the tab files separately? I have tired it wit the first batch (HP) and still have 3 tables open. There is nothing to pick in the seamless table window and I might just lose the will to live after 3 weeks of this...
 
I really need an idiots guide...
thanks again
Kellie

Thomas Bacon

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Mar 7, 2011, 11:24:22 AM3/7/11
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Kellie,

 

The following should work:

 

1)       Open all tab files you want included in your seamless table and add them all to one map window. (they may need splitting into groups if there are many)

2)       Go to Seamless Manager à New Seamless Table

3)       Save the seamless layer to the same directory as the original constituent tab files (or to a different directory if the ‘Full Path’ option is used)

 

Now if you close all the tables open and then just open the seamless table on its own, it should display all of the constituent tables as one table.

Martin Spiers

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First, make sure the Seamless Table Manager is loaded

Tools > Tool manager > Seamless Table Manager > Tick “Loaded”

This adds a “ Seamless Manager” menu to the Tools menu

 

Open a (small) selection of tiles into the same map window

 

Choose “Seamless options” and select Full Path

 

Then pick “New seamless table” and choose where you want to save it

 

MapInfo creates a seamless table from the open tiles

 

You can add further tiles by using the “Append to seamless table” menu, or….

 

If you turn the seamless table off and then look at the seamless table in a browser, you’ll see that one column contains the file reference and another the tile description. You can use Excel or a similar tool to create this information and then append it to the table without having to add each tile individually. To do this, you’ll first need a list of all the tiles you want to add. Assuming these are all in the same folder, running the command “Dir/b > list.txt” drom a DOS command line will create a list of all the files in a folder. This can then be manipulated and the results imported into MapInfo for appending to the seamless table.

 

Hope that helps.

Tim Rideout

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Making a seamless table is really very simple. Follow thes steps:

Ensure no tables are open by using File>Close all.

Open only the images you want to use in the seamless table. Each must have a tab file and be in the same projection (in this case GB Grid). Do not try to open more than about 1500.

If they all open without problems you are ready. There are only two settings on a seamless table - full path or no path. You will find this under Seamless Options. If you are going to save the seamless tab file into the SAME folder as the images (all of them) then use No Path. Otherwise you MUST use Full Path.

Choose Create New Seamless Table, specify a name and save folder, and wait until the message 'x images have been added to seamless table y' appears.

You are done. Close all and open the seamless table instead.

Tim
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Thanks Tom

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> *From:* mapi...@googlegroups.com [mailto:mapi...@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *kelskie
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>
>
>
> Thanks John
>
> I am still having problems, I can't create a seamless table/layer as it
> says I need the full path name or something. When I turn seamless tool on, I
> get a box that says 'pick a table' with an 'ok' button but there is nothing
> to pick. Where am I going wrong? If I can create semaless tabs for England,
> Scotland etc. then I will be a very happy mapper!!!
>
> Thanks again
>
> Kellie
>
> On 4 March 2011 16:45, CDR Group <sa...@cdrgroup.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Kellie
>
>
>
> How many tables have you got open?
>
> Which OS product is it?
>
>
>
> You may be better off grouping these into manageable chunks e.g England,
> Scotland and Wales.
>
>
>
> If you are using OS StreetView you may need to group into the 100km squares
> e.g. NS, SK, TQ etc.
>
> Some 100km squares don't have too many map tiles, so you could group a few
> together.
>
> http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/gi/nationalgrid/nghelp1.html
>
> OV is my favourite!!!
>
>
>
> John Ievers
>

> *CDR Group*


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kelskie

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Thanks Tim, but it doesn't matter how many OS tiles (tab files) I open, it only joins the last lot I opened. I am opening in Automatic so they are all separate is that correct? Or do I have to open in current mapper? If so, do I open one of the tab files then load all other tabs into current mapper?
 
I have gone through this over and over again and it says you have created a seamless layer with 4 tables, even tho I have opened every tile in the H folders! What am I doing wrong? SHould I be opening the tiff files and not the tabs? When I do this is says do you want to overwrite, I say yes and it says do you want to display or register? When I say display, they all go into the same square, when I say register, it wants co-ordinates! I thought the tab files acted as coordinates?
 
It would be great if it was as easy as you say.... hope you can shed some light
 
Thanks again

CDR Group

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Oh Kellie
 
When you said "yes" to overwrite - you have just undone all the work from last week!!!
 
:-(
 
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Yes I realise that now. Can anyone give me full child like instructions on how to do this properly without overwriting my previous work? I thought I should be opening the tab files but is it the tiffs? Can anyone help? Am pretty disheartened now....

Martin Spiers

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Mar 8, 2011, 5:07:23 AM3/8/11
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Open the TAB files. They contain the co-ordinate information necessary to get the tiles to appear in the right place. Open the tiles you want in the same map window – this seems to be where you’re going wrong.

Then follow the instructions in Tim’s email below or my email yesterday.

Thomas Bacon

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Mar 8, 2011, 5:12:35 AM3/8/11
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Kellie,

 

You should be opening the tab files. If you open the tiffs MapInfo will create new tab files (hence the question to display or register and the overwrite prompt) and you will need to register these for them to be geolocated properly. So, if you have overwritten the tab files which were originally provided with the data, you will need to copy these back into the folder.  The second thing to note is that the tab files you’ve opened to add to a seamless table all need to be in the same map window (you can do this when you open the files… select all the tab files you want and set preferred view to New Mapper). So, assuming you have opened all the tab files you want included and they are all in the same map window, you can now create the seamless table following the instructions provided yesterday.  (Remember to set to Full Path if you are saving the seamless layer to a different location to that of your tab files)

 

HTH,

 

Tom Bacon

Graduate GIS Engineer

Asset Management South

Tel: 01444 472380

www.mouchel.com

 


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Sent: 08 March 2011 09:49

Tim Rideout

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As a general rule when opening a table you are always best to replace the ‘Display in’ box where it says Automatic with either Current Mapper or New Mapper. You can still use Current Mapper even if there isn’t a map window open as it will just create one. If you leave it on automatic then MapInfo will more or less randomly open the tables in one or more map windows. Technically I think a table goes into a different mapper if there is something slightly different about the co-ordinate system, but if you are opening a 100 images it seems pretty random.

 

It sounds like your problem has been not having the images in the same map window.

 

If it still does not work then I think you should consider the £99 + VAT to get a copy of our set! I don’t know how you value your time but if you have spent three weeks on it then I would be pretty fed up by now!

 

Regards

 

Tim

 

Dr Tim Rideout

Director

 

XYZ Win Awards - At the International Map Trade Show in Italy on Feb 18th, the National Geographic map of Scotland won the Silver Award for Best Flat Map (made by XYZ from People's Map data), and at the British Cartographic Society on June 10th 2010 our Postcode Sector Map - London won the Stanfords Award for Best Printed Map 2010.

 

Visit XYZ at British Cartographic Society 8/10th June 2011, and Frankfurt Book Fair October 2011.

 The XYZ Digital Map Company

Unit 9-11 Hardengreen Bus.Pk.
Dalhousie Road,
Dalkeith,
EH22 3NX

Tele: +44 (0) 131 454 0426
Mobile: +44 (0) 7766 825937
Fax: +44 131 454 0443
Email:
tim.r...@xyzmaps.com
Web: www.xyzmaps.com

From: mapi...@googlegroups.com [mailto:mapi...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelskie
Sent: 07 March 2011 18:16
To: mapi...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MI-L] Loading free OS tiles

 

Thanks Tim, but it doesn't matter how many OS tiles (tab files) I open, it only joins the last lot I opened. I am opening in Automatic so they are all separate is that correct? Or do I have to open in current mapper? If so, do I open one of the tab files then load all other tabs into current mapper?

 

I have gone through this over and over again and it says you have created a seamless layer with 4 tables, even tho I have opened every tile in the H folders! What am I doing wrong? SHould I be opening the tiff files and not the tabs? When I do this is says do you want to overwrite, I say yes and it says do you want to display or register? When I say display, they all go into the same square, when I say register, it wants co-ordinates! I thought the tab files acted as coordinates?

 

It would be great if it was as easy as you say.... hope you can shed some light

 

Thanks again

On 7 March 2011 16:50, Tim Rideout <tim.r...@xyzmaps.com> wrote:

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kelskie

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Mar 8, 2011, 6:43:14 AM3/8/11
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Thanks so much everyone. Still havng problems. Is it bacuase I have all my tab files in different folders ie HT, HU etc.? I can only open from one folder at a time obviously. I have opened a big batch in New Mapper as suggested, which works, but when I have tried opening more tab files into current mapper, they do not show. They are listed in the layer palette but when I turn off the first set I opened, I get a blank page. Where are those tab files if I can't see them on the map but they are lsited in layers? These are all files from open...@ordnancesurvey.co.uk
 
I dont know what I am doing differently as I did manage to get a map with more than one folder of tabs the other day. 1 step forward, 2 steps back...
 
Thanks again
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Martin Spiers

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Mar 8, 2011, 6:52:47 AM3/8/11
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The tiles may be set to display in a zoom range – in which case, if you zoom out too far you won’t be able to see them. But this wouldn’t stop you adding them to a seamless table, and they’ll magically re-appear if you zoom in at the right place.

Tim Rideout

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Mar 8, 2011, 7:09:34 AM3/8/11
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If there is an asterisk against them in the Layer Control then they are switched off due to being outside the Zoom / Reveal settings. You can either zoom in or change the setting by double clicking the layer name and unticking the box against ‘Display within Zoom Range’.

 

If your images are all in separate folders like HU, HP, etc then you MUST use Full Path in your seamless options setting.

 

Maybe you might do a MapInfo course? I know it costs but if you had somebody to demonstrate these techniques it sounds like it could save you a lot of time and hassle, and you would probably find there are loads of things you can do that you haven’t realised are there.

 

Tim

 

Dr Tim Rideout

Director

 

XYZ Win Awards - At the International Map Trade Show in Italy on Feb 18th, the National Geographic map of Scotland won the Silver Award for Best Flat Map (made by XYZ from People's Map data), and at the British Cartographic Society on June 10th 2010 our Postcode Sector Map - London won the Stanfords Award for Best Printed Map 2010.

 

Visit XYZ at British Cartographic Society 8/10th June 2011, and Frankfurt Book Fair October 2011.

 The XYZ Digital Map Company

Unit 9-11 Hardengreen Bus.Pk.
Dalhousie Road,
Dalkeith,
EH22 3NX

Tele: +44 (0) 131 454 0426
Mobile: +44 (0) 7766 825937
Fax: +44 131 454 0443
Email:
tim.r...@xyzmaps.com
Web: www.xyzmaps.com


From: mapi...@googlegroups.com [mailto:mapi...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelskie
Sent: 08 March 2011 12:01
To: mapi...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MI-L] Loading free OS tiles

 

Thanks so much everyone. Still havng problems. Is it bacuase I have all my tab files in different folders ie HT, HU etc.? I can only open from one folder at a time obviously. I have opened a big batch in New Mapper as suggested, which works, but when I have tried opening more tab files into current mapper, they do not show. They are listed in the layer palette but when I turn off the first set I opened, I get a blank page. Where are those tab files if I can't see them on the map but they are lsited in layers? These are all files from open...@ordnancesurvey.co.uk

 

I dont know what I am doing differently as I did manage to get a map with more than one folder of tabs the other day. 1 step forward, 2 steps back...

 

Thanks again


 

On 8 March 2011 11:06, Tim Rideout <tim.r...@xyzmaps.com> wrote:

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kelskie

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Thanks Tim, believe it or not, I did a course nearly 2 years ago and seamless was not mentioned.
 
I think I am getting somewhere, I chose the full path option yesterday but it defaulted back so wasn't on.
 
If I make a strip of the UK as 1 seamless file, can I then create a new seamless file from each strip I have made? I think I tried it and it said I couldn't create a semaless table from another. Does anyone know how to do this?
 
Thanks again Mappers
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Tim Rideout

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Mar 8, 2011, 7:50:15 AM3/8/11
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Obviously not as good as my course then! J

 

You can’t join seamless tables together.

 

I did spend quite a long time on trying to get one seamless table for the OS StreetView tiles, but I concluded it was impossible. The most images I got into one seamless table was just under 2000, and you would need to get over 10,000 into the table to cover all of GB.

 

Regards

 

Tim

 

Dr Tim Rideout

Director

 

XYZ Win Awards - At the International Map Trade Show in Italy on Feb 18th, the National Geographic map of Scotland won the Silver Award for Best Flat Map (made by XYZ from People's Map data), and at the British Cartographic Society on June 10th 2010 our Postcode Sector Map - London won the Stanfords Award for Best Printed Map 2010.

 

Visit XYZ at British Cartographic Society 8/10th June 2011, and Frankfurt Book Fair October 2011.

 The XYZ Digital Map Company

Unit 9-11 Hardengreen Bus.Pk.
Dalhousie Road,
Dalkeith,
EH22 3NX

Tele: +44 (0) 131 454 0426
Mobile: +44 (0) 7766 825937
Fax: +44 131 454 0443
Email:
tim.r...@xyzmaps.com
Web: www.xyzmaps.com


From: mapi...@googlegroups.com [mailto:mapi...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kelskie
Sent: 08 March 2011 12:45
To: mapi...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MI-L] Loading free OS tiles

 

Thanks Tim, believe it or not, I did a course nearly 2 years ago and seamless was not mentioned.

 

I think I am getting somewhere, I chose the full path option yesterday but it defaulted back so wasn't on.

 

If I make a strip of the UK as 1 seamless file, can I then create a new seamless file from each strip I have made? I think I tried it and it said I couldn't create a semaless table from another. Does anyone know how to do this?

 

Thanks again Mappers

On 8 March 2011 12:09, Tim Rideout <tim.r...@xyzmaps.com> wrote:

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Martin Hodder

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Mar 8, 2011, 8:19:05 AM3/8/11
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Hi Tim,

 

Not sure that is true as I know of at least to people who have seamless tables Streetview as well as me!

 

I have emailed to offer it to Kellie but I have had no response to that.

 

For anyone who is a member of the MapInfo User UK and Ireland (www.muguki.com)  they can download the seamless tables for Streetview and the raster version of Vectormap.

 

 

Regards

Martin Hodder
Higher Mapping Solutions
www.highermappingsolutions.com

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kelskie

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I was going to say the same Tim. When we paid for the OS data from PB, one of the support staff used my PC remotely to create a Seamless file of the whole of the UK. Unfortunately he did it so quick, I missed it. As the data is now free, we cannot use those tiles as we are not going to pay for a new liscence, hence why I am doing this!
 
Sorry I missed your email Tim, I have so many replies from people but I will go through and see what you said.
 
Thanks everyone - again. I don't see myself enetering any maps to the competition thing I  heard about!

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Sue Beetlestone

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Mar 8, 2011, 10:36:07 AM3/8/11
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Hello Martin
 
Just thought you'd like to know!
 
There are 10578 tabs in our seamless layer of Streetview.
 
Sue
 
Susan D Beetlestone
Uwch Swyddog GIS Corfforaethol ac ALO/Senior Corporate GIS Officer & ALO
BPU IT
Cyngor Sir Powys/Powys County Council
Neuadd y Sir/County Hall
Spa Rd East
Llandrindod Wells
Powys
LD1 5LG
Telephone 01597 82 6938
e-mail sus...@powys.gov.uk
 


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Owen

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Mar 8, 2011, 11:38:00 AM3/8/11
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Hello,
 
Since you have previously generated the seamless layer, why not just overwrite the new raster files over the old ones?
 
Owen 

kelskie

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Thanks Owen but I have no clue what you mean! But I wanted to tell everyone that with their help and patience and kindess (in sending me their files) I now have a seamless tab file of the OS tiles SR to TV (I note that SQ and TW are missing - due to the fact they have no land?!)
 
So, I am one very happy mapper - thanks Sue, Martin, John, Thomas, Tim, anyone else that I have forgotten to mention.
 
If anyone needs any help with Adobe InDesign - just let me know ;o)

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DuncanH

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Mar 8, 2011, 12:20:03 PM3/8/11
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Hi Kellie,

If you'd like to avoid having to manage the OS OpenData yourself, we
have a free service called viaEuropa Open that you'd be welcome to
register for. We prepare the OS OpenData products and enable users of
MapInfo Professional and ProViewer to consume the data as a service
when required. It works just like the support for Bing Maps that was
added in version 10.5. Anyone can use it internally for non-commercial
use. Take a look at www.viaeuropa.uk.com

Hope this helps.

Kind regards,
Duncan

Duncan Hill
Europa Technologies

On Mar 8, 1:23 pm, kelskie <kels...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was going to say the same Tim. When we paid for the OS data from PB, one
> of the support staff used my PC remotely to create a Seamless file of the
> whole of the UK. Unfortunately he did it so quick, I missed it. As the data
> is now free, we cannot use those tiles as we are not going to pay for a new
> liscence, hence why I am doing this!
>
> Sorry I missed your email Tim, I have so many replies from people but I will
> go through and see what you said.
>
> Thanks everyone - again. I don't see myself enetering any maps to the
> competition thing I  heard about!
>
> On 8 March 2011 13:19, Martin Hodder <mhod...@highermappingsolutions.com>wrote:
>
> >  Hi Tim,
>
> > Not sure that is true as I know of at least to people who have seamless
> > tables Streetview as well as me!
>
> > I have emailed to offer it to Kellie but I have had no response to that.
>
> > For anyone who is a member of the MapInfo User UK and Ireland (
> >www.muguki.com)  they can download the seamless tables for Streetview and
> > the raster version of Vectormap.
>
> > Regards
>
> > Martin Hodder
> > Higher Mapping Solutions
> >www.highermappingsolutions.com
>
> > Behalf Of *Tim Rideout
> > *Sent:* 08 March 2011 12:50
>
> > *To:* mapi...@googlegroups.com
> > *Subject:* RE: [MI-L] Loading free OS tiles
>
> > Obviously not as good as my course then! J
>
> > You can’t join seamless tables together.
>
> > I did spend quite a long time on trying to get one seamless table for the
> > OS StreetView tiles, but I concluded it was impossible. The most images I
> > got into one seamless table was just under 2000, and you would need to get
> > over 10,000 into the table to cover all of GB.
>
> > Regards
>
> > Tim
>
> > Dr Tim Rideout
>
> > Director
>
> > *XYZ** Win Awards - At the International Map Trade Show in Italy on Feb
> > 18th, the National Geographic map of Scotland won the Silver Award for Best
> > Flat Map (made by **XYZ** from People's Map data), and at the British
> > Cartographic Society on June 10th 2010 our Postcode Sector Map - London won
> > the Stanfords Award for Best Printed Map 2010.*
>
> > *Visit **XYZ** at British Cartographic Society 8/10th June 2011, and
> > Frankfurt Book Fair October 2011.*
>
> >  The *XYZ* Digital Map Company
>
> > *Unit 9-11 Hardengreen Bus.Pk.
> > Dalhousie Road,
> > Dalkeith,
> > EH22 3NX*
>
> > *Tele: +44 (0) 131 454 0426
> > Email: tim.ride...@xyzmaps.com
> > Web:www.xyzmaps.com*
> >  ------------------------------
>
> > *From:* mapi...@googlegroups.com [mailto:mapi...@googlegroups.com] *On
> > Behalf Of *kelskie
> > *Sent:* 08 March 2011 12:45
> > *To:* mapi...@googlegroups.com
> > *Subject:* Re: [MI-L] Loading free OS tiles
>
> > Thanks Tim, believe it or not, I did a course nearly 2 years ago and
> > seamless was not mentioned.
>
> > I think I am getting somewhere, I chose the full path option yesterday but
> > it defaulted back so wasn't on.
>
> > If I make a strip of the UK as 1 seamless file, can I then create a new
> > seamless file from each strip I have made? I think I tried it and it said I
> > couldn't create a semaless table from another. Does anyone know how to do
> > this?
>
> > Thanks again Mappers
>
> > On 8 March 2011 12:09, Tim Rideout <tim.ride...@xyzmaps.com> wrote:
>
> > If there is an asterisk against them in the Layer Control then they are
> > switched off due to being outside the Zoom / Reveal settings. You can either
> > zoom in or change the setting by double clicking the layer name and
> > unticking the box against ‘Display within Zoom Range’.
>
> > If your images are all in separate folders like HU, HP, etc then you MUST
> > use Full Path in your seamless options setting.
>
> > Maybe you might do a MapInfo course? I know it costs but if you had
> > somebody to demonstrate these techniques it sounds like it could save you a
> > lot of time and hassle, and you would probably find there are loads of
> > things you can do that you haven’t realised are there.
>
> > Tim
>
> > Dr Tim Rideout
>
> > Director
>
> > *XYZ** Win Awards - At the International Map Trade Show in Italy on Feb
> > 18th, the National Geographic map of Scotland won the Silver Award for Best
> > Flat Map (made by **XYZ** from People's Map data), and at the British
> > Cartographic Society on June 10th 2010 our Postcode Sector Map - London won
> > the Stanfords Award for Best Printed Map 2010.*
>
> > *Visit **XYZ** at British Cartographic Society 8/10th June 2011, and
> > Frankfurt Book Fair October 2011.*
>
> >  The *XYZ* Digital Map Company
>
> > *Unit 9-11 Hardengreen Bus.Pk.
> > Dalhousie Road,
> > Dalkeith,
> > EH22 3NX*
>
> > *Tele: +44 (0) 131 454 0426
> > Email: tim.ride...@xyzmaps.com
> > Web:www.xyzmaps.com*
> >  ------------------------------
>
> > *From:* mapi...@googlegroups.com [mailto:mapi...@googlegroups.com] *On
> > Behalf Of *kelskie
> > *Sent:* 08 March 2011 12:01
>
> > *To:* mapi...@googlegroups.com
> > *Subject:* Re: [MI-L] Loading free OS tiles
>
> > Thanks so much everyone. Still havng problems. Is it bacuase I have all my
> > tab files in different folders ie HT, HU etc.? I can only open from one
> > folder at a time obviously. I have opened a big batch in New Mapper as
> > suggested, which works, but when I have tried opening more tab files into
> > current mapper, they do not show. They are listed in the layer palette but
> > when I turn off the first set I opened, I get a blank page. Where are those
> > tab files if I can't see them on the map but they are lsited in layers?
> > These are all files from opend...@ordnancesurvey.co.uk
>
> > I dont know what I am doing differently as I did manage to get a map with
> > more than one folder of tabs the other day. 1 step forward, 2 steps back...
>
> > Thanks again
>
> > On 8 March 2011 11:06, Tim Rideout <tim.ride...@xyzmaps.com> wrote:
>
> > As a general rule when opening a table you are always best to replace the
> > ‘Display in’ box where it says Automatic with either Current Mapper or New
> > Mapper. You can still use Current Mapper even if there isn’t a map window
> > open as it will just create one. If you leave it on automatic then MapInfo
> > will more or less randomly open the tables in one or more map windows.
> > Technically I think a table goes into a different mapper if there is
> > something slightly different about the co-ordinate system, but if you are
> > opening a 100 images it seems pretty random.
>
> > It sounds like your problem has been not having the images in the same map
> > window.
>
> > If it still does not work then I think you should consider the £99 + VAT to
> > get a copy of our set! I don’t know how you value your time but if you have
> > spent three weeks on it then I would be pretty fed up by now!
>
> > Regards
>
> > Tim
>
> > Dr Tim Rideout
>
> > Director
>
> > *XYZ** Win Awards - At the International Map Trade Show in Italy on Feb
> > 18th, the National Geographic map of Scotland won the Silver Award for Best
> > Flat Map (made by **XYZ** from People's Map data), and at the British
> > Cartographic Society on June 10th 2010 our Postcode Sector Map - London won
> > the Stanfords Award for Best Printed Map 2010.*
>
> > *Visit **XYZ** at British Cartographic Society 8/10th June 2011, and
> > Frankfurt Book Fair October 2011.*
>
> >  The *XYZ* Digital Map Company
>
> > *Unit 9-11 Hardengreen Bus.Pk.
> > Dalhousie Road,
> > Dalkeith,
> > EH22 3NX*
>
> > *Tele: +44 (0) 131 454 0426
> > Email: tim.ride...@xyzmaps.com
> > *
>
> > *Web:www.xyzmaps.com*
> >  ------------------------------
>
> > *From:* mapi...@googlegroups.com [mailto:mapi...@googlegroups.com] *On
> > Behalf Of *kelskie
> > *Sent:* 07 March 2011 18:16
>
> > *To:* mapi...@googlegroups.com
>
> > *Subject:* Re: [MI-L] Loading free OS tiles
>
> > Thanks Tim, but it doesn't matter how many OS tiles (tab files) I open, it
> > only joins the last lot I opened. I am opening in Automatic so they are all
> > separate is that correct? Or do I have to open in current mapper? If so, do
> > I open one of the tab files then load all other tabs into current mapper?
>
> > I have gone through this over and over again and it says you have created a
> > seamless layer with 4 tables, even tho I have opened every tile in the H
> > folders! What am I doing wrong? SHould I be opening the tiff files and not
> > the tabs? When I do this is says do you want to overwrite, I say yes and it
> > says do you want to display or register? When I say display, they all go
> > into the same square, when I say register, it wants co-ordinates! I thought
> > the tab files acted as coordinates?
>
> > It would be great if it was as easy as you say.... hope you can shed some
> > light
>
> > Thanks again
>
> > On 7 March 2011 16:50, Tim Rideout <tim.ride...@xyzmaps.com> wrote:
>
> > Making a seamless table is really very simple. Follow thes steps:
>
> > Ensure no tables are open by using File>Close all.
>
> > Open only the images you want to use in the seamless table. Each must have
> > a tab file and be in the same projection (in this case GB Grid). Do not try
> > to open more than about 1500.
>
> > If they all open without problems you are ready. There are only two
> > settings on a seamless table - full path or no path. You will find this
> > under Seamless Options. If you are going to save the seamless tab file into
> > the SAME folder as the images (all of them) then use No Path. Otherwise you
> > MUST use Full Path.
>
> > Choose Create New Seamless Table, specify a name and save folder, and wait
> > until the message 'x images have been added to seamless table y' appears.
>
> > You are done. Close all and open the seamless table instead.
>
> > Tim
> > Sent from my Orange HTC Touch Pro2
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: kelskie <kels...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: 07 March 2011 16:16
> > To: mapi...@googlegroups.com <mapi...@googlegroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [MI-L] Loading free OS tiles
>
> > Thanks Tom
>
> ...
>
> read more »
>
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kelskie

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Hi everyone, as you were all SO helpful in my free OS tile/seamless problems, I would like to know if anyone has had any luck in opening the free Postcode data (Code point open) that I downloaded from the OS site. They are all CSV files but I have no clue how to load them. I have opened them in a current mapper but I just get tables with loads of data, no post points on my map. Maybe I am not supposed to get the post code points?
 
If anyone can shed any light, I would be most grateful
 
Thanks
 


 

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Martin Hodder

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Mar 10, 2011, 5:59:06 AM3/10/11
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Hi Kellie,

 

You would have to Combine all the CSV files into one file and then use the table > create points option and use the coordinate columns.

 

However you might be better to get the data resupplied by Pitney Bowes who have done all the processing for you

 

Have a look at http://www.pbinsight.eu/uk/products/data/mapping-data/os-opendata/

 

Regards

Martin Hodder
Higher Mapping Solutions
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Thomas Bacon

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Mar 10, 2011, 6:00:02 AM3/10/11
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Hi again Kellie,

 

The CodePoint data comes complete with a set of grid references for each post code. Open the table as normal in MapInfo, then go to Table à Create Points

Select the correct columns (containing the eastings and northings) and make sure your projection is set to British National Grid (click the projection button on the create points dialog box).  Once it’s done, you should be able to open a mapper with all your CodePoint data as points.

 

HTH,

 

Tom Bacon

Graduate GIS Engineer

Asset Management South

Tel: 01444 472380

www.mouchel.com

 


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Hi everyone, as you were all SO helpful in my free OS tile/seamless problems, I would like to know if anyone has had any luck in opening the free Postcode data (Code point open) that I downloaded from the OS site. They are all CSV files but I have no clue how to load them. I have opened them in a current mapper but I just get tables with loads of data, no post points on my map. Maybe I am not supposed to get the post code points?

kelskie

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Mar 10, 2011, 6:02:21 AM3/10/11
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Thanks Martin, do you get commision from PB? ;o)
I already have their data, we don't want to buy a new liscence if we can get the data free. Times are hard.
 
Thanks anyway

Thomas Bacon

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Mar 10, 2011, 6:09:21 AM3/10/11
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Kellie,

 

The data Martin linked to IS free!  Only difference between getting it from OS and PB is that PB have already processed the data for use with MapInfo (i.e. tab files), hence saving you some time and effort.

 

Regards,

 

Tom Bacon

Graduate GIS Engineer

Asset Management South

Tel: 01444 472380

www.mouchel.com

 

Sue Beetlestone

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Mar 10, 2011, 6:09:47 AM3/10/11
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Hello Kellie
 
You will need to create Points for this.
 
If you go to the file menu and choose "Save Copy as" - you can save your CSV file as a true mapinfo Table. (you will need to call it something slightly different)
Close your CSV related table and open up the one you have just saved.
Go to the table menu and then to Maintenance>Table Structure - then in that dialogue box tick the "Mappable" check box - also it's worth checking the projection is set to British Co-ordinate systems> British National Grid.
 
Go back to the Table menu and choose "Create points" then choose which column you want for the x and y co-ordinate information and choose your symbol.
Click ok (or create - I can't remember which it says).
 
You can then either add the layer to any map you may have open - or open it in a new map window.
 
Hope this helps
 
Sue
 
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J.Wilcock

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Mar 10, 2011, 10:23:54 AM3/10/11
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Kellie

Its probaly a bit late now, but if you still having problems with
loading OS map tiles you could try this tool:

http://www.mapinfotools.com/index.php?option=com_sobi2&sobi2Task=sobi2Details&catid=2&sobi2Id=362&Itemid=72

it'll load in all the OS tiles for the area your curently viewing, so
avioding the need to create endless seamless tables and it means you
don't have to figure out which tiles you need to load.
you'll have to tell it the file path to the root folder where they are
all saved but other than that it'll do all the work.

it's also got a feature to zoom to any town/postcode & load up map
tiles for that area (all taken from the OS OpenData map tiles &
postcode files)

its a bit crude but hopefull could be of some use to you.

John.

Andy Harfoot

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I've quite happily created a seamless layer for GB coverage of 25cm
aerial photography in 1km tiles - well over a million, however, this
wasn't by using the bundled tool, but by generating an index grid from a
list of the file names (which provide the georeferencing - eg SU2364 - a
1km square with the SW corner at 423000, 164000), and then appending the
magic lines to the resulting TAB file:

begin_metadata
"\IsSeamless" = "TRUE"
end_metadata

The limit on the number of entries in a seamless layer should be the
same as the normal limits for objects in a TAB file, the problems arise
when you accidentally choose view entire layer on such a table!

Andy

Sue Beetlestone wrote:
> Hello Martin
>
> Just thought you'd like to know!
>
> There are 10578 tabs in our seamless layer of Streetview.
>
> Sue
>
> Susan D Beetlestone
> Uwch Swyddog GIS Corfforaethol ac ALO/Senior Corporate GIS Officer & ALO
> BPU IT
> Cyngor Sir Powys/Powys County Council
> Neuadd y Sir/County Hall
> Spa Rd East
> Llandrindod Wells
> Powys
> LD1 5LG
> Telephone 01597 82 6938

> e-mail sus...@powys.gov.uk <mailto:sus...@powys.gov.uk>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> *On Behalf Of *Martin Hodder
> *Sent:* 08 March 2011 13:19
> *To:* mapi...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [MI-L] Loading free OS tiles


>
> Hi Tim,
>
>
>
> Not sure that is true as I know of at least to people who have seamless
> tables Streetview as well as me!
>
>
>
> I have emailed to offer it to Kellie but I have had no response to that.
>
>
>
> For anyone who is a member of the MapInfo User UK and Ireland

> (www.muguki.com <http://www.muguki.com>) they can download the seamless

> tables for Streetview and the raster version of Vectormap.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Martin Hodder
> Higher Mapping Solutions
> www.highermappingsolutions.com
>
>
>
>
>

> *On Behalf Of *Tim Rideout
> *Sent:* 08 March 2011 12:50
> *To:* mapi...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [MI-L] Loading free OS tiles


>
>
>
> Obviously not as good as my course then! J
>
>
>
> You can’t join seamless tables together.
>
>
>
> I did spend quite a long time on trying to get one seamless table for
> the OS StreetView tiles, but I concluded it was impossible. The most
> images I got into one seamless table was just under 2000, and you would
> need to get over 10,000 into the table to cover all of GB.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Tim
>
>
>
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