Complicated tenses

[Alex Rozenshteyn]

{di'i} means regularly (over the time interval specified).  Is there a way to be more specific about the time between occurrences?  e.g. some event happens every 23 days?

Also, is it just me, or do termsets for explicit magnitudes, especially single element ones for explicit distance with vague origin, seem really awkward?

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[tijlan]

On Feb 21, 3:23 am, Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglove...@gmail.com> wrote:
> {di'i} means regularly (over the time interval specified).  Is there a way
> to be more specific about the time between occurrences?  e.g. some event
> happens every 23 days?

da broda pa roi reci djedi

"pa roi reci djedi" is one grammatical unit attached to the bridi "da
broda". In this "PA roi SUMTI" construct, SUMTI specifies the interval
over which the count PA is true.

djedi2 is "one" by default, so "reci djedi" makes "twenty-three of
that which is one full day in duration". Also correct may be "reci
seldei", "a duration which is twenty-three full days". In both cases,
"reci" quantifies a semantic body of a temporal interval, which is
what "pa roi" takes.

> Also, is it just me, or do termsets for explicit magnitudes, especially
> single element ones for explicit distance with vague origin, seem really
> awkward?

If by "termsets" you mean CEhE, PEhE, NUhI and NUhU, the zasni gerna
(http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=zasni+gerna+cenba
+vreji) proposes that they be eliminated except for some special case.

Could you remind me of an example of the usage in question?

[.arpis.]

http://dag.github.com/cll/10/25/ is the usage I had in mind.

How should one say "ko'a sits 5 meters to the left"?

How do you differentiate between something happening once in an interval (e.g. a woman's period comes every 30 days) vs something happening with an exact time difference (e.g. my graph theory homework is due every 7 days, which happens to be every Monday)?

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[Pierre Abbat]

On Sunday 20 February 2011 22:23:39 Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:
> {di'i} means regularly (over the time interval specified). Is there a way
> to be more specific about the time between occurrences? e.g. some event
> happens every 23 days?

"di'i lo djedi be li reci". "di'i" is a tense marker; all tense markers
(including the spatial ones) can also serve as prepositions. You can even
connect two sentences with "idi'ibo", though that doesn't make much sense.

"reci djedi" doesn't mean "an interval 23 days long"; it means "23 intervals
each measured in days". "reci seldei" means "23 lengths of intervals measured
in days". "paroi lo djedi be li reci" means "once in 23 days", but does not
imply "at regular intervals".

> Also, is it just me, or do termsets for explicit magnitudes, especially
> single element ones for explicit distance with vague origin, seem really
> awkward?

Yes, they seem awkward. We've been using "za" followed by the interval
and "pu" or "ba" followed by the origin.

Pierre
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[.arpis.]

Instead of termsets, or in addition to termsets?  Could you offer an example?

Pierre
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[Jorge Llambías]

On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 8:22 AM, .arpis. <rpglover...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> How should one say "ko'a sits 5 meters to the left"?

See: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section:+Distance under "va".

mu'o mi'e xorxes

[.arpis.]

ki'e

2011/2/21 Jorge Llambías <jjlla...@gmail.com>

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