SK663 21 JUL-2017:ID

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Members,

Location: Tukuche, Mustang, Nepal

Date: 12 April  2017

Altitude: 8000 ft.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Superb images. 

[J.M. Garg]

Pl. check comparative images at Caryophyllaceae

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Arenaria ??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

As it appears closer to images at Arenaria serpyllifolia L. (Sepals 3.5-4 mm, lanceolate, acute to acuminate, scabrid, ± glandular or glabrous, margin scarious, usually 3-veined. Petals white, less than the length of the sepals. Capsule exceeding the sepals ...), but sepals are shorter than petals. I looked at keys in Flora of Pakistan, where another closer species was Arenaria leptoclados (Similar to Arenaria serpyllifolia but leaves obovate to spathulate, especially lower ones, usually mucronulate; sepals 2.5-3 mm. lanceolate, exceeding capsule, the calyx gradually narrowing above, not thickened at the base)

Flora of Pakistan says Arenaria serpyllifolia is very similar to the following 3 species (I think Arenaria orbiculata, Arenaria neelgerrensis & Arenaria leptoclados) described next and often difficult to separate satisfactorily. Variable in its vegetative characters, especially the indument. A. serpyllilfolia is a tetraploid (2n=40) and probably derived from A. leptoclados (a diploid) and another closely related species (McNeill, l.c. 1967).

[Paradesi Anjaneyulu]

I think Arenaria serpilifolia is Correct, Saroj Ji, 

With regards. 

On Sun, 6 Sep 2020 at 21:38, Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote:

Any idea Paradesi Ji !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Subject: SK663 21 JUL-2017:ID

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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 4:28 PM
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Dear Members,

Location: Tukuche, Mustang, Nepal

Date: 12 April  2017

Altitude: 8000 ft.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Date: Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 6:50 PM
To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

Superb images. 

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Date: Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 2:23 PM

To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>

Pl. check comparative images at Caryophyllaceae

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With regards,
J.M.Garg

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'

Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia. 

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group (largest in the world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or Efloraofindia website (with a species database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images).

The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>

Date: Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 3:04 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

Arenaria ??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Date: Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 12:28 PM

To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Paradesi ji.

Saroj Kasaju

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Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Bijay Khadka]

Thank you all

yes morphology, habitat and elevation suggests it to be

Caryophyllaceae

Arenaria serpyllifolia L.   

Regards,

Bijay

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Bijaya. However, this sp. is not mentioned  in the book. 

May be many sp. left out. Even Gesneriaceae is not mentioned

in the book.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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[Bijay Khadka]

Yes Saroj Sir..

In coming days we must cover the remaining from that area.

Regards,

Bijay

[Saroj Kasaju]

On your shoulder! 

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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[Bijay Khadka]

Hope to be part of that.

Regards,

Bijay

[J.M. Garg]

This was my earlier feedback in this thread:

As it appears closer to images at Arenaria serpyllifolia L. (Sepals 3.5-4 mm, lanceolate, acute to acuminate, scabrid, ± glandular or glabrous, margin scarious, usually 3-veined. Petals white, less than the length of the sepals. Capsule exceeding the sepals ...), but sepals are shorter than petals. I looked at keys in Flora of Pakistan, where another closer species was Arenaria leptoclados (Similar to Arenaria serpyllifolia but leaves obovate to spathulate, especially lower ones, usually mucronulate; sepals 2.5-3 mm. lanceolate, exceeding capsule, the calyx gradually narrowing above, not thickened at the base)

Flora of Pakistan says Arenaria serpyllifolia is very similar to the following 3 species (I think Arenaria orbiculata, Arenaria neelgerrensis & Arenaria leptoclados) described next and often difficult to separate satisfactorily. Variable in its vegetative characters, especially the indument. A. serpyllilfolia is a tetraploid (2n=40) and probably derived from A. leptoclados (a diploid) and another closely related species (McNeill, l.c. 1967).

Your views pl.

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Mr. Garg,

 Finally ID is confirmed!

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

What id ?

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Paradesi ji and Bijay has validated ID as Arenaria serpyllifolia L.   

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

But this species (Arenaria serpyllifolia L.) has not been mentioned in the Flora of Mustang as post at SK597 26 JUN-2017:ID

It has been taken on the same date as well.

To me it looks the same as Arenaria serpyllifolia var. neelgherrensis

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Mr. Garg.

I guess the ID is correct!

Saroj Kasaju