28 AUG 2017 VNR 02: Acalypha sps for id

[Naga Raju]

28-08-2017

Open fields and weed in crop lands, Anantapur, Andhra Pradesh

small herb.

[J.M. Garg]

Pl. check comparative images at 

https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/e/euphorbiaceae/acalypha

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[J.M. Garg]

[Tapas Chakrabarty]

This is possibly Acalypha lanceolata.

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Tapas ji. 

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Pl. check comparative images at

https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/e/euphorbiaceae/acalypha - from me

This is possibly Acalypha lanceolata. - from Tapas ji

efi page on Acalypha lanceolata

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for id pl.

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28-08-2017

Open fields and weed in crop lands, Anantapur, Andhra Pradesh

small herb.

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Acalypha lanceolata Willd. ?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[dr.rakesh Singh]

Looks like A. ciliata . Not A. indica .

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Rakesh ji, 

Why not A. lanceolata? 

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Rakesh ji

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On Sat 20 Apr, 2019, 10:55 AM dr.rakesh Singh, <dr.rake...@gmail.com> wrote:

In favour of A. ciliata I wd say involucrum margin is ciliated here , and on zooming in , gives a hint of being gland-tipped too, but not very clear .........in A. indica , leaves give away the id , in A. malabarica fruits turn red , in A. lanceolata involucrum margin is toothed cleanly , that is no gland or hair and tooth number is more, height equal  plus tooth base narrow compared to A. indica  . These are my amateur observations , luckily I have seen all four species in Surat .   

[Ushadi Micromini]

nice distinctions in a nut shell

Does Dr Rakesh have  the respective photographs to share here?

Thanks

Usha di
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[Ushadi Micromini]

this is wonderful compilation on acalypha pics by dr rakesh singh 

i thought everyone should benefit 

so with his permission 

here it is 

Usha di
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Will do. 

Usha di
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On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 11:05 AM dr.rakesh Singh <dr.rake...@gmail.com> wrote:

My bad . I should have clicked on 'reply all'.You didn't need to ask .Please forward them to the group .

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 11:36 PM Ushadi Micromini <micromi...@gmail.com> wrote:

so so very nice of you, Dr Singh

i would carry this info in my head when i see Acalypha

you sent these to me only

do i have your permission to forward them to our group

thanks 

Usha di
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On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 5:26 PM dr.rakesh Singh <dr.rake...@gmail.com> wrote:

One more of A. lanceolata .

All photos from Surat , shot in August-September of 2015. 

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 5:15 PM dr.rakesh Singh <dr.rake...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sorry for delay .This one here is Acalypha indica ........long petiole with tapered leaf base is unique for this species .

 I take it as a base and move forward to clarify what I think ....please correct me if I am not right in my assumptions ....

This here is floral spike and shallowly toothed involucrum of same species .

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Now these two here , I think , are Acalypha malabarica with red fruits . Involucrum teeth have glandular hairs . 

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This here is Acalypha ciliata in my opinion .......involucrum has long filiform structures instead of teeth ........

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Last one here in my opinion is Acalypha lanceolata

What else I have noticed is , Acalypha malabarica and A. ciliata express red in stem , petiole , leaf and leaf veins , 

A. indica and A. lanceolata do not . 
( This is first time I am uploading images in our forum , and it took time getting to know how to do it , and I have yet to learn remaining tricks . )

[Dinesh Valke]

Thanks Rakesh ji for the comparative pics of Acalypha ( lanceolata | indica | malabarica | ciliata ).

Regards.

Dinesg

[J.M. Garg]

On further checking in efi site and with inserted images by Rakesh ji, I fell it more close to images at Acalypha malabarica Müll.Arg., as I feel involucrum margin is gland tipped (as already hinted by Rakesh ji) .

I request Nagaraju ji to pl. attach original image of IMG_2904 and IMG_2909, so that these details can be clearly deciphered.

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28-08-2017

Open fields and weed in crop lands, Anantapur, Andhra Pradesh

small herb.

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[J.M. Garg]

We have to check with the description of the bracts as below (both from India Biodiversity Portal):

Acalypha malabarica Müll.Arg.

All spikes axillary and sessile, short, up to 3 cm long, androgynous, finely pubescent. Male flowers ca 0.5 mm across, very few, clustered near the apex of spikes. Female flowers 2-2.5 mm across, 6-8 along the basal portion of the spike; bracts alternate, foliaceous, subcampanulate, funnel-shaped, folded, ca 5 mm across, shallowly toothed, bordered with long gland-tipped hairs along peripheral portion and margin, pilose, hairy or nearly glabrous, roughly coriaceous, gland-dotted, many-nerved.

Acalypha lanceolata Willd.

Spikes axillary, erect, sessile or peduncled and androgynous, 1.5-8 cm long, nearly glabrous or finely pubescent. Three-fourth of the spikes is occupied by female bracts and the male flowers are clustered only at the one-fourth upper portion. Bracts number about 18-20, campanulate to subcampanulate or cup- shaped, folded, 3-4 mm across, crenate-dentate, shallowly dentate or conspicuously 9 to 12-toothed with acute teeth along margins, pubescent, strongly parallel-veined, and gland-dotted.

[Tapas Chakrabarty]

I am unable to comment at present being out of station.

[Ushadi Micromini]

Ok, no problem. 

but we do look forward to your ideas and response once you are back home

thank you for being you and giving us the benefits of your insights and knowledge

Usha di
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[Naga Raju]

Hello every one Here i am attaching original pictures. Sorry for the dealy.

[Paradesi Anjaneyulu]

If you don't mind can know where are you from Nagaraju sir; am from Ananthapuramu.

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Nagaraju ji 

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[Naga Raju]

I am from Amadagur. 

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[J.M. Garg]

I fell it more close to images at Acalypha malabarica Müll.Arg. as per descriptions at

Acalypha malabarica Müll.Arg.
Acalypha lanceolata Willd.

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[J.M. Garg]

I got keys at Flora of Medak District, Andhra Pradesh, India By T. Pullaiah, Chintala Prabhakar, B. Ravi Prasad Rao (Description & Keys- Acalypha ciliata, Acalypha indica, Acalypha lanceolata & Acalypha malabarica) as below:

Capsules hispid, bracts with glandular hairs- Acalypha malabarica

Capsules glabrous, bracts without glandular hairs- Acalypha lanceaolata

In view, I will go for Acalypha malabarica

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[Paradesi Anjaneyulu]

I think you're right Garg Ji, I too agreed with you for malabarica, but above-mentioned characters are overlapped, that both sp. has glandular hairy on bracts. 

I hope this is  good for differentiation 

Inflorescence up to 8 cm in mature plant, at least 5 cm when young.............A. lanceolata

Inflorescence up to 3 cm only, when it young below the 3 cm..............A. malabarica. 

With regards. 

Flora of India

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Paradesi ji.

As per present observations in efi site, this is also not a good differentiation.

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[dr.rakesh Singh]

My observation is , in  A. malabarica , whole plant is yellowish green , more glandular hairs , fruits variably express red color . A. lanceolata is Dark green ,

 fruit same color , hairs less . Also , other than A. indica , I find inflorescence axis is held close to stem . 

[ushadi]

I think we need to upgrade our knowledge

work up the published keys

supplement them with our member DR Rakesh Simgh"s personal observations and detailed photography

and his write ups

science always progesses

its never stagnant

nothing is written in stone

Regards

Ushadi

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