Flora of Uttarakhand- Fern2 for Id- JM

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J.M. Garg

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Dec 1, 2010, 11:25:18 AM12/1/10
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Wild Fern captured on 13/8/10 during the trek from Ghangaria (around 11,000 ft.) to Hemkunt Sahib (around 14000 ft.).

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Pankaj Kumar

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Dec 1, 2010, 1:14:54 PM12/1/10
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Looks like Osmunda to me.
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J.M. Garg

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Dec 18, 2010, 5:29:50 AM12/18/10
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl.

Earlier relevant feedback:

“Looks like Osmunda to me.
Pankaj”

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Gurcharan Singh

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Dec 18, 2010, 11:23:54 AM12/18/10
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Yes I think Osmunda regalis


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Pankaj Kumar

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Dec 18, 2010, 12:04:34 PM12/18/10
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I think this should have been Osmunda claytoniana. Its there in
Ghagaria and VoF. Not so uncommon.
Pankaj

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C KUNHIKANNAN

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Dec 18, 2010, 1:47:22 PM12/18/10
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It may not be Osmunda. Osmund has branched fronts
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Pankaj Kumar

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Dec 18, 2010, 1:52:03 PM12/18/10
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Not necessarily.
This is Osmunda claytoniana from Rohtang Pass, Himachal.
Pankaj
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Gurcharan Singh

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Dec 18, 2010, 8:12:27 PM12/18/10
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Yes Pankaj ji
This is the beauty of our group. One person provides a lead, second one makes a guess, third (here the first) makes further attempt and verifies or corrects the second one.
          Yes it is O. claytoniana with pinnate vegetative fronds with pinnatifid pinnae. O. regalis has bipinnate fronds with subentire to denticulate pinnules.


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JM Garg

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Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2010 at 9:55:18 PM UTC+5:30
Subject: Flora of Uttarakhand- Fern2 for Id- JM
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J.M. Garg

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Apr 14, 2023, 2:44:07 AM4/14/23
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I think it may be O. claytoniana subsp. vestita (POWO mentions it as a syn. of Osmunda pilosa Wall. ex Grev. & Hook.) as suggested by Chris ji at Osmunda regalis from Kashmir-GSJUN09

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J.M. Garg

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Apr 14, 2023, 4:10:24 AM4/14/23
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Thanks a lot, Chris ji

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Yes, sterile fronds of Osmunda claytoniana subsp. vestita, which is of course not a distinct species (only the wool colour is different from the N. American subsp. claytoniana).  Forget POWO based on Christenhusz' erroneous ideas!  O. pilosa Wall. ex Grev. & Hook. is a synonym of subsp. vestita.   Such folk only know two ranks, genus and species and did not understand the genera and species at all, but it got stuck into POWO.


Incidentally, there is no Osmunda regalis in Kashmir, nor did I suggest so.  O. regalis is an entirely different species not present in India, where it is represented by O. japonica.  Please see in my Annotated Checklist Indian Pteridophytes vol. 1.  That group is nothing to do with O. claytoniana.

Best wishes,
    Chris Fraser Jenkins.



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