Asystasia chelonoides VERSUS Asystasia dalzelliana

[Dinesh Valke]

Dear friends,

1) ... is Asystasia chelonoides distributed in forest area surrounding Mumbai / Thane, that is Sanjay Gandhi National Park, Tungareshwar Wildlife Sanctuary, Karnala Bird Sanctuary ?
2) ... is Asystasia chelonoides confusingly close to Asystasia dalzelliana (syn. Asystasia violacea) ? ... if so, any quick key to their ID.

Regards.

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter pl.

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter pl.

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Date: 4 October 2010 17:52
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[JM Garg]

Recently Neil ji has stated in another thread (Is it Asystasia ? ID25062013) as

"A.chelonoides is now A.chelonoides Nees var.variabilis [Nees in DC] Almeida [comb.Nov.]. It is a separate species.

Regards,

Neil Soares."

Illustration at FOC shows A.chelonoides Nees as a syn. of A. nemorum which

And Asystacia nemorum [previously Asystasia dalzelliana / Asystacia violacea] as per Dr.Almeida's 'Flora of Maharashtra', Vol 4-A, pg.9 as quoted by Neil ji in another thread

Is it Asystasia ? ID25062013

[J.M. Garg]

Recently Neil ji has stated in another thread (Is it Asystasia ? ID25062013) as

"A.chelonoides is now A.chelonoides Nees var.variabilis [Nees in DC] Almeida [comb.Nov.]. It is a separate species.

Regards,

Neil Soares."

Illustration at FOC shows A.chelonoides Nees as a syn. of A. nemorum which

And Asystacia nemorum [previously Asystasia dalzelliana / Asystacia violacea] as per Dr.Almeida's 'Flora of Maharashtra', Vol 4-A, pg.9 as quoted by Neil ji in another thread

Is it Asystasia ? ID25062013

     

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Date: 13 July 2013 19:33
Subject: [efloraofindia:160233] Fwd: Asystasia chelonoides VERSUS Asystasia dalzelliana
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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Neil ji,

Flora of China says:

"...A. nemorum has a compact inflorescence with flowers clustered toward the apex, a long and slender corolla tube, blue corollas, and is known only from Peninsular Malaysia (where cultivated) and Java (where native). ......." & does not link it with Asystasia dalzelliana.

 

None of the sources at ‎Asystasia, links A. nemorum with Asystasia dalzelliana.

 

Thus I am not accepting Dr. Almida's views in this matter until something new comes up.

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[Dinesh Valke]

Thanks Garg ji and Neil ji.

I will wait for response to my latter query:

2) ... is Asystasia chelonoides confusingly close to Asystasia dalzelliana (syn. Asystasia violacea) ? ... if so, any quick key to their ID.

Regards.

Dinesh

[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Dinesh ji,

Pl. see  ‎Asystasia

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[Dinesh Valke]

Thank you very much Garg ji.

Difference in habit is a clear key to separate Asystasia chelonoides and Asystasia dalzelliana.

Regards.

Dinesh