Request for ID : 290310-AK-3

[Aarti S. Khale]

Date/Time : 17th of April, 2009/ 10.09 am
Location Place : Mahabaleshwar,Maharashtra... Altitude :  ... GPS : 
Habitat : Wild ... Type :
Plant Habit : Shrub ... Height : about 3-4 feet ... Length : ... 
Leaves Type :  ... Shape :  ... Size : ...
Inflorescence Type :  ... Size : 
Flowers Size : about 1 inch ... Colour : white ... Calyx :  ... Bracts : ...
Fruits Type :  ... Shape :  ... Size :  ... Seeds : 

Other Info :

Fragrance :  ...  Pollinator :  ...  Uses : 
 

Is it a type of Ixora?

Aarti

[Parjanya guru]

Dear Aarti.. seems  to be  Ixora..  may be  Pavetta  too..

 but.. please add inforamation on presence of  stipules..  and add some pics of leaves too...

 

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[Dinesh Valke]

... strongly believing it to be Pavetta crassicaulis locally known as papat OR papti.
Regards.

[Aarti S. Khale]

Dear Parjanya ji and Dinesh ji,

Leaves missing in two other pictures taken by me. I remember there were practically no leaves on the shrub....only lots of white bunches of flowers. And there were many such shrubs in that area overlooking the Krishna river in the valley below.

Aarti 

 

[Dinesh Valke]

...most often sighted this shrub (P. crassicaulis) flowers when leafless.
At my flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Pavettacrassicaulis&w=91314344%40N00&m=tags
Regards.

[Parjanya guru]

.. I do agree with Dinesh jee....

....For the plant- P. crassicaulis.

 ..  Aarti jee.., you could have touched the flowers.. and definately would have blessed with natural talcum....

..... Pollen mass attach to ur hand and u'll feel it as a talcum powder,...!!!

:)

[Tabish]

Is it different from Pavetta indica, or is there a naming confusion?
GRIN has Pavetta indica in its database, but Pavetta crassicaulis is
missing. IPNI has both, but with no connection between the two.
- Tabish

On Mar 29, 11:24 am, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ... strongly believing it to be *Pavetta crassicaulis* locally known as *
> papat* OR *papti*.
> Regards.
>
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Parjanya guru <gurooji1...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Dear Aarti.. seems  to be*  Ixora..*  may be*  Pavetta*  too..

> >  but.. please add inforamation on presence of  stipules..  and add some
> > pics of leaves too...
>

> > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Aarti S. Khale <aarti.kh...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>  *Date/Time* : 17th of April, 2009/ 10.09 am
> >> *Location Place* : Mahabaleshwar,Maharashtra... *Altitude* :  ... *GPS*:
> >> *Habitat* : Wild ... *Type* :
> >> *Plant Habit* : Shrub ... *Height *: about 3-4 feet ... *Length* : ...
> >> *Leaves Type *:  ... *Shape* :  ... *Size* : ...
> >> *Inflorescence Type* :  ... *Size* :
> >> *Flowers Size* : about 1 inch ... *Colour* : white ... *Calyx* :  ... *
> >> Bracts* : ...
> >> *Fruits Type* :  ... *Shape *:  ... *Size* :  ... *Seeds* :
>
> >> *Other Info* :
> >> *Fragrance* :  ...  *Pollinator* :  ...  *Uses* :

>
> >> Is it a type of Ixora?
> >> Aarti
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[Dinesh Valke]

... yes ... me too confused with these two names ... however settled with P. crassicaulis at http://gallery.bizhat.com/showphoto.php/photo/36569 (representing Ingalhalikar ji's FOS).
Best would be to check into British and Maharashtra flora ... will revert with my observations.

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[Tabish]

According to Kew World Checklist (which I treat as an authority) both
Pavetta crassicaulis Bremek. and Pavetta indica L. are accepted name,
meaning they are two distinct species.
1. Pavetta crassicaulis Bremek., (accepted name)
Synonym: Pavetta stocksii Bremek.
2. Pavetta indica L. (accepted name)
Synonyms:
Ixora pavetta Roxb., Fl. Ind. 1: 385 (1820), nom. illeg.
Ixora indica (L.) Baill., Hist. Pl. 7: 278 (1880).
Pavetta indica var. typica Domin, Biblioth. Bot. 89: 623 (1929),
nom. inval.
Pavetta indica var. glabra Bremek., Repert. Spec. Nov. Regni Veg.
37: 119 (1934), nom. inval.
Any new light on this issue is welcome!
- Tabish (confused)

On Mar 29, 2:41 pm, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ... yes ... me too confused with these two names ... however settled with *P.
> crassicaulis* athttp://gallery.bizhat.com/showphoto.php/photo/36569(representing

> Ingalhalikar ji's FOS).
> Best would be to check into British and Maharashtra flora ... will revert
> with my observations.
>
> Regards.
>

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[Dinesh Valke]

Dear Tabish,

Putting here some references from archives:
1) http://www.archive.org/stream/floraofpresidenc01cook#page/n629/mode/2up ... Theodore Cooke's Flora of the Presidency of Bombay, Vol I Part III
2) http://www.archive.org/stream/matheranhillits00unkngoog#page/n43/mode/2up ... J Y Smith's Matheran Hill, Its People, Plants and Animals
3) http://www.archive.org/stream/bombayfloraorsho00dalzrich#page/222/mode/2up ... The Bombay Flora by Dalzell and Gibson


Shrikant ji, please help on P. crassicaulis.

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[Satish Phadke]

In earlier discussions on Efloraindia P.crassicaulis and P.indica are synonyms.
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[Dr. Pankaj Kumar]

According to Kew, they are not synonyms.
Cooke's; Smith's and Dalzel & Gibson are too old to follow for
synonymy I think. Smith and Dalzel & Gibson were published much before
the publication of crassicaulis. But Cooke's flora is too good to help
in identification.

Pavetta indica is distributed from Indian Subcontinent to S. China and
Pen. Malaysia whereas Pavetta crasscaulis is distributed in West and
South India. This is according to Kew.

By anychance anyone has the following reference (:P hehehe) this could
be of great help:

Pavetta crassicaulis Bremekamp, Repertorium Specierum Novarum Regni
Vegetabilis 37: 112 (1934).

Regards
Pankaj