Flora of Chakrata: Geranium sp from Chakrata

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Balkar Arya

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Sep 23, 2011, 10:27:03 AM9/23/11
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Dear all
Geranium sp from Chakrata
Wild Herb with purple beautiful flowers
I hope this is Geranium wallichianum
Pls validate
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Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 23, 2011, 11:00:16 AM9/23/11
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Yes Balkar ji


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Balkar Arya

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Sep 23, 2011, 11:09:41 AM9/23/11
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Thanks for validation sir

Alok

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Sep 23, 2011, 12:35:54 PM9/23/11
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Sir could you tell me the differences between Geranium himalayense &
Geranium wallichianum
regards
Alok

On Sep 23, 8:00 pm, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes Balkar ji
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> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
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Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 23, 2011, 9:30:54 PM9/23/11
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Alok ji Geranium wallichianum can be easily differentiated from other large flowered species (G. collinum, G. grevilleanum, G. wallichianum, G. tuberaria) in that stipules are very large (1-2 cm long), very broad (ovate-oblong) and often common between two leaves on each side(due to fusion of two adjacent stipules; may be often bifid). In other species the stipules are very narrow, linear, usually less than 1 cm long and two between two adjacent leaves on each side (they are free not united).



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Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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Balkar Arya

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Sep 23, 2011, 9:48:02 PM9/23/11
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Thanks for Clarification Sir

Alok Mahendroo

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Sep 24, 2011, 11:19:49 AM9/24/11
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Thank you for the guidance sir,
seems I'll have to carry a scale at all times with me.. :)
regards
Alok

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Dr Pankaj Kumar

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Sep 24, 2011, 11:49:15 AM9/24/11
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Yes, Geranium wallichianum.
Thanks for sharing.
Pankaj


On Sep 24, 11:19 pm, Alok Mahendroo <alokisabe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you for the guidance sir,
> seems I'll have to carry a scale at all times with me.. :)
> regards
> Alok
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> On Sat, 2011-09-24 at 07:18 +0530, Balkar Arya wrote:
> > Thanks for Clarification Sir
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> > On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 7:00 AM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >         Alok ji Geranium wallichianum can be easily differentiated
> >         from other large flowered species (G. collinum, G.
> >         grevilleanum, G. wallichianum, G. tuberaria) in that stipules
> >         are very large (1-2 cm long), very broad (ovate-oblong) and
> >         often common between two leaves on each side(due to fusion of
> >         two adjacent stipules; may be often bifid). In other species
> >         the stipules are very narrow, linear, usually less than 1 cm
> >         long and two between two adjacent leaves on each side (they
> >         are free not united).
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> >        http://efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=109504&flora_id=2
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> >        http://efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=86584&flora_id=5
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> >         --
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> >         Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> >         Retired  Associate Professor
> >         SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> >         Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> >         Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> >        http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> >         On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Alok
> www.hivetrust.wordpress.comwww.forwildlife.wordpress.comhttp://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_js=on&_new...

Balkar Arya

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Sep 24, 2011, 11:50:40 AM9/24/11
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Your Welcome Pankaj Ji

prasad dash

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Jan 16, 2012, 5:09:17 AM1/16/12
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Beautiful pictures balkar Sir

Regards

prasad
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chrischa...@btinternet.com

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Nov 14, 2016, 4:34:23 PM11/14/16
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I shall be inspecting all the Geraniums posted on this site in due course.  I am in agreement that this is Geranium wallichianum but those reading this should be aware just how variable this species is in terms of flower colour.  Nasir in Geraniaceae (Flora of Pakistan) describes the petals as mauve but this is only a small fraction of the variation.  It is very difficult for herbarium taxonomists as in most cases they only have dried, pressed specimens to refer to.  Often the colour of dried flowers is different to fresh flowers plus in many cases accompanying field notes are minimal or non-existent, seldom mentioning flower colour.  I know of forms which are bluish with white centres, pink, mauve and all sorts in between from the Western Himalaya.

The same applies to colour of filaments and styles (which Nasir says is reddish).

This species can normally be distinguished by its large oblong to oval stipules.  It can normally be recognised but many other geraniums present considerable challenges identification-wise.   Those interested in other species should read my other posts about Geraniums.

chrischa...@btinternet.com

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Nov 14, 2016, 4:45:30 PM11/14/16
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I shall be inspecting all the Geraniums posted on this site in due course.  I am in agreement that this is Geranium wallichianum but those reading this should be aware just how variable this species is in terms of flower colour.  Nasir in Geraniaceae (Flora of Pakistan) describes the petals as mauve but this is only a small fraction of the variation.  It is very difficult for herbarium taxonomists as in most cases they only have dried, pressed specimens to refer to.  Often the colour of dried flowers is different to fresh flowers plus in many cases accompanying field notes are minimal or non-existent, seldom mentioning flower colour.  I know of forms which are bluish with white centres, pink, mauve and all sorts in between from the Western Himalaya.

The same applies to colour of filaments and styles (which Nasir says is reddish).

This species can normally be distinguished by its large oblong to oval stipules.  It can normally be recognised but many other geraniums present considerable challenges identification-wise.   Those interested in other species should read my other posts about Geraniums.

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J.M. Garg

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Nov 14, 2016, 11:19:16 PM11/14/16
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Thanks, Chadwell ji


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