ID of passiflora species!

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ravi g

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Aug 19, 2011, 12:51:44 PM8/19/11
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I require your help in identification of this Passiflora species.  I had photographed it in Bangalore growing wildly along the shores of the lakes.  It is a wild creeper and it is surely not the passion fruit plant.  I would be grateful if you could help me in identification of this species!
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Vijayasankar

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Aug 19, 2011, 1:11:42 PM8/19/11
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Looks like Passiflora foetida.
 
Regards 
 
Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi

Dr Pankaj Kumar

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Aug 19, 2011, 2:02:12 PM8/19/11
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Yes this is Passiflora foetida.
Pankaj

On Aug 19, 10:11 pm, Vijayasankar <vijay.botan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Looks like *Passiflora foetida*.

Balkar Arya

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Aug 19, 2011, 8:42:27 PM8/19/11
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Yes P foetida
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Ushadi micromini

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Aug 19, 2011, 11:30:01 PM8/19/11
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Not native to India...AND NEWLY OPENED FLOWER LOOKS VERY PRETTY LIKE
ANY GARDEN variety PASSIFLORA species...
http://www.plantoftheweek.org/image/passifloraf.jpg

Now naturalized in most tropical areas... is on a noxious weed list:
http://www.invasivespecies.net/database/species/ecology.asp?si=341&fr=1&sts=&lang=EN

Though it seems to have some nice redeeming value...
I liked the last sentence in WIKI .. that its saponin richness is
useful in making nondetergent sahmpoo/soap...
love that... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passiflora_foetida

And Australian site that tracks useful plants list it:
http://www.newcrops.uq.edu.au/listing/passiflorafoetida.htm

GO FIGURE...!!!

Edict that Trash of one is gold of other....must be true !!

About the shampoo soap....wonder if someone has made it???

WHAT INTRIGUED ME THE MOST IS A PAPER BY DR RADHARAMANI of
Bangalore...
which states that the intricate network of the bracts on the surface
of the fruit makes this plant a protocarnivorous, or borderline
carnivorous... ((Radhamani, T. R., L. Sudarshana, et al. (1995).
Defense and carnivory: Dual role of bracts in Passiflora foetida.
Journal of Biosciences Bangalore 20(5): 657-664. {a} Promotion Res.
Dev. Efforts Selected Crops., PC Unit, Bangalore 560 065, India )) I
could access only the abstract... the pdf needs to be bought at
springerlink site!!!

DOES ANY ONE AT EFLORA HAVE ACCESS TO DR RADHARAMANI or to this
paper??

Usha di

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On Aug 20, 5:42 am, Balkar Arya <balkara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes P foetida
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Vijayasankar

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Aug 20, 2011, 12:11:15 AM8/20/11
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Dr. Usha,

Open access to the article is available at: http://www.ias.ac.in/jarch/jbiosci/20/657-664
However, I hv also attached the pdf here...
I knew that the bracts exude a sticky substance, but I never expected digestive enzymes in it...its an information to me...thanks to all...
Dear Pankaj, your hypothesis (in an another thread) seems to be correct (don't think its too late :)). You have amazing research aptitude...

 
Regards 
 
Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi



RADHAMANI et al.pdf

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Aug 20, 2011, 2:03:29 AM8/20/11
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Sheetal try the access on J store.
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ushadi Micromini

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Aug 20, 2011, 3:16:03 AM8/20/11
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Dear Dr. Raman, thank you ...that was very prompt...

the autoradiograph is interesting and the bracts picked up the most labelled phenylalanine... so the organ that's source of enzymes is also the uptake organ???

I'll keep the link you sent me as a source, I downloaded and read the paper you sent in, thanks again..

Usha di
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Pankaj Kumar

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Aug 20, 2011, 10:32:42 AM8/20/11
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My plant from Dehradun.
Yes this plant is amazing.
Earlier my casual believe was the plant has glandular hairs to repel
insects as it also has a strange odour. But my experiments with the
plant proved that there was something more. It had this ability to
make the insects feel dizzy or something not normal happened to the
insects I used. I had no means to prove what!! I believed that there
was something which attracted insects to the plants. Apart from being
attracted, the same gland were used for digestion of the insects too,
usually very small sized ones.
Today Vijay made me happy to realise that my thoughts were not absurd :p.

Usually, the carnivorous plants attract insects and trap them. Sundew
has similar droplets on the hairs, but that is sticky and is not
actually containing any food for insects. But this plant attracts and
then lures them with actual food on the droplets and then traps them
or kills them or makes them immobile. So in that case, this should be
a new type of trapping for carnivorous plant.

But yes, I had not seen this reference before. Thanks a lot for sharing.

Pankaj


On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Dr Pankaj Kumar
<sahani...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Aug 20, 12:16 pm, ushadi Micromini <microminipho...@gmail.com>


> wrote:
>> Dear Dr. Raman, thank you ...that was very prompt...
>>
>> the autoradiograph is interesting and the bracts picked up the most labelled
>> phenylalanine... so the organ that's source of enzymes is also the uptake
>> organ???
>>
>> I'll keep the link you sent me as a source, I downloaded and read the paper
>> you sent in, thanks again..
>>
>> Usha di
>> =====
>>

>> On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Vijayasankar <vijay.botan...@gmail.com>wrote:
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>> > Dr. Usha,
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>> > Open access to the article is available at:
>> >http://www.ias.ac.in/jarch/jbiosci/20/657-664
>> > However, I hv also attached the pdf here...
>> > I knew that the bracts exude a sticky substance, but I never expected
>> > digestive enzymes in it...its an information to me...thanks to all...
>> > Dear Pankaj, your hypothesis (in an another thread) seems to be correct
>> > (don't think its too late :)). You have amazing research aptitude...
>>
>> > Regards
>>
>> > Vijayasankar Raman
>> > National Center for Natural Products Research
>> > University of Mississippi
>>
>> > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Ushadi micromini <
>> > microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> Not native to India...AND NEWLY OPENED FLOWER LOOKS VERY PRETTY  LIKE
>> >> ANY GARDEN variety PASSIFLORA species...
>> >>http://www.plantoftheweek.org/image/passifloraf.jpg
>>
>> >> Now naturalized  in most tropical areas... is on a noxious weed  list:
>>

>> >>http://www.invasivespecies.net/database/species/ecology.asp?si=341&fr...

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Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae)
Research Associate
Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project
Department of Habitat Ecology
Wildlife Institute of India
Post Box # 18
Dehradun - 248001, India

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ushadi Micromini

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Aug 20, 2011, 5:19:23 PM8/20/11
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Dear Pankaj:
Nice observations,  where did you write about it earlier? What experiments did you do? any papers  or was it informal casual writing like we do here...?
Can you send me the link  about casual writing or scientific writing, ie papers? ?

Tha protocarnivorous thing was news to me when I read the abstract upon googling,
that's why I wrote about it, it intrigued me because I had not heard anybody talk of it or write about this Passiflora foetida being one..

Live and learn...
Thanks.
Usha di
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Pankaj Kumar

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Aug 20, 2011, 5:28:04 PM8/20/11
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Respected Mam
I was actually doing foliar studies on three species of this genus and
is one of my first free lance article before my MSc results came out.
Its a very basic paper hope you wont dislike it.
I had a small garden with huge collection of wild as well as
ornamental plants which I started making since my 4-5th standard. You
would be surprised to know that my first bonsai I started making was
in 7th standard and it stayed with me till I came to Dehradun, but
somehow due to negligence the root got infected by something and the
plant died from base. One of my passion during those days was to
collect climbers, Passiflora and Vitaceae just to name a few. Now that
we shifted to new rented house and I hadnt been home since past 6
years, till recently, many of my plants couldnt survive, but still
there are many.
Pankaj
003 2003 ST STR IN PASSIFLORA BULL PURE APP SC.pdf

ushadi Micromini

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Aug 20, 2011, 6:18:39 PM8/20/11
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very nice .. Pnakj. read the paper, interesting... Would have been better to have a set of photographs of the there leaf t ypes or line drawings... but back then you must have had time and money crunch and the magazine space crunch.. so its ok...  did you save the old data? and slides?
Usha di
too sleepy , 350 am  going to catch some zzzzzs .
Be well
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Pankaj Kumar

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Aug 20, 2011, 6:22:50 PM8/20/11
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Not much info is left with me now. And in 2009 I burnt around 5000
printed pictures and old negatives :( in the Holika dahan!! The
article was written long back in 2001.
Pankaj

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Mohan V. Chunkath

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Aug 21, 2011, 5:18:13 AM8/21/11
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Dear Friends,
Thought I should share this. The young fruits of P. foetida look like Christmas tree decorations which have been strung!
Regards,
Mohan
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Balkar Arya

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Aug 21, 2011, 6:20:36 AM8/21/11
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Yes Mohan Ji Nice catch it is P foetida fruits

Tanay Bose

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Aug 21, 2011, 10:32:46 AM8/21/11
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This is surely  P foetida
Tanay
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Ushadi micromini

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Aug 21, 2011, 12:20:40 PM8/21/11
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Gee wiz, what a nice thread this turned out to be...
love it

Usha di

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On Aug 21, 7:32 pm, Tanay Bose <tanaybos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is surely  P foetida
> Tanay
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> On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 3:20 AM, Balkar Arya <balkara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yes Mohan Ji Nice catch it is P foetida fruits
>
> > On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Mohan V. Chunkath <
> > mohan.chunk...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> Dear Friends,
> >> Thought I should share this. The young fruits of P. foetida look like
> >> Christmas tree decorations which have been strung!
> >> Regards,
> >> Mohan
>
> > --
> > Regards
>
> > Dr Balkar Singh
> > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> > Arya P G College, Panipat
> > Haryana-132103
> > 09416262964
>
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> *Tanay Bose*
> Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant.
> Department of Botany.
> University of British Columbia .
> 3529-6270 University Blvd.
> Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
> Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
>            604-822-2019 (Lab)
>            604-822-6089  (Fax)
> ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
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