ID needed for Leh Flowers 32a&b

Nudrat Sayed

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Oct 12, 2010, 2:19:00 PM10/12/10

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Hello All,

Please help with identification of this plant. Is it possible that this plant belongs Aconitum sps.
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Navendu

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Oct 13, 2010, 1:18:24 AM10/13/10

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Delphinium brunoniana?

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tanay bose

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Oct 13, 2010, 1:53:12 AM10/13/10

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I think Delphinium brunonianum.

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Gurcharan Singh

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Oct 13, 2010, 1:59:41 AM10/13/10

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Please have a look at this one

http://www.planetefleurs.fr/Systematique/Renonculaceae/Delphinium_brunonianum.htm

D. cachemeriana is more likely

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Pankaj Kumar

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Oct 13, 2010, 9:07:36 AM10/13/10

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Dear Navendu
If it is Delphinium then the species should be brunonianum except for
the few exceptions.
Delphinium for sure, not sure about the species.
Pankaj

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Oct 14, 2010, 1:18:00 AM10/14/10

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Dear Pankaj,
D.brunonianum and D.cashemeriana appear to be very closely related species and the differences between these are not very clear. It could be either of the two

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Gurcharan Singh

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Oct 29, 2010, 5:17:42 PM10/29/10

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I would prefer to go with the D. cashmerianum because of the following reasons

1. D. brunonianum is a dwarf plant rarely exceeding 30 cm in height and with inflorescence slightly longer than lower leaves. Here it is much longer.

2. Flowers of D. brunonianum are much lighter in colour as seen at FOI website and link from Ladakh provided by me.

3. Perhaps the source of confusion is the photograph of D. cashmerianum provided at FOI. It must be remembered that D. cashmerianum has never been reported from Nepal eastwards. Even its presence in Nepal is doubtful as per eFlora (Ann. Checklist of Flowering plants of Nepal). Obviously the plant at FOI is not D. cashmerianum. It may be D. viscosum or any other East Himalayan species. Perhaps Ritesh ji or Tanay can work on this.

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J.M. Garg

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Nov 24, 2010, 7:24:19 AM11/24/10

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Some earlier relevant feedback:

“Please have a look at this one
http://www.planetefleurs.fr/Systematique/Renonculaceae/Delphinium_brunonianum.htm

D. cachemeriana is more likely

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh”

“If it is Delphinium then the species should be brunonianum except for

the few exceptions.
Delphinium for sure, not sure about the species.

Pankaj”

“Dear Pankaj,

D.brunonianum and D.cashemeriana appear to be very closely related species and the differences between these are not very clear. It could be either of the two

navendu”

"I would prefer to go with the D. cashmerianum because of the following reasons

1. D. brunonianum is a dwarf plant rarely exceeding 30 cm in height and with inflorescence slightly longer than lower leaves. Here it is much longer.
2. Flowers of D. brunonianum are much lighter in colour as seen at FOI website and link from Ladakh provided by me.
3. Perhaps the source of confusion is the photograph of D. cashmerianum provided at FOI. It must be remembered that D. cashmerianum has never been reported from Nepal eastwards. Even its presence in Nepal is doubtful as per eFlora (Ann. Checklist of Flowering plants of Nepal). Obviously the plant at FOI is not D. cashmerianum. It may be D. viscosum or any other East Himalayan species. Perhaps Ritesh ji or Tanay can work on this.

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Gurcharan Singh

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Dec 9, 2010, 6:25:35 PM12/9/10

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Some earlier relevant feedback:

“Please have a look at this one

http://www.planetefleurs.fr/Systematique/Renonculaceae/Delphinium_brunonianum.htm

D. cachemeriana is more likely

--
Dr. Gurcharan Singh”

“If it is Delphinium then the species should be brunonianum except for

the few exceptions.
Delphinium for sure, not sure about the species.

Pankaj”

“Dear Pankaj,

D.brunonianum and D.cashemeriana appear to be very closely related species and the differences between these are not very clear. It could be either of the two

navendu”

"I would prefer to go with the D. cashmerianum because of the following reasons

1. D. brunonianum is a dwarf plant rarely exceeding 30 cm in height and with inflorescence slightly longer than lower leaves. Here it is much longer.
2. Flowers of D. brunonianum are much lighter in colour as seen at FOI website and link from Ladakh provided by me.
3. Perhaps the source of confusion is the photograph of D. cashmerianum provided at FOI. It must be remembered that D. cashmerianum has never been reported from Nepal eastwards. Even its presence in Nepal is doubtful as per eFlora (Ann. Checklist of Flowering plants of Nepal). Obviously the plant at FOI is not D. cashmerianum. It may be D. viscosum or any other East Himalayan species. Perhaps Ritesh ji or Tanay can work on this.

--
Dr. Gurcharan Singh"

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Retired Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

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Gurcharan Singh

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Jan 30, 2021, 7:19:47 AM1/30/21

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Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Delphinium cashmerianum ?

I now agree with Navendi ji, Tanay and Pankaj, for this being D. brunonianum looking at spur and petals

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Gurcharan Singh

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Jan 30, 2021, 7:21:01 AM1/30/21

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Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Delphinium cashmerianum ?

I now agree with Navendi ji, Tanay and Pankaj, for this being D. brunonianum looking at spur and petals

Group discussion at

ID needed for Leh Flowers 32a&b (google.com)

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jan 30, 2021, 8:48:15 AM1/30/21

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Delphinium brunonianum Royle would be the correct ID !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Gurcharan Singh

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Feb 10, 2021, 5:51:00 AM2/10/21

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Thanks Saroj ji

Dr. Gurcharan Singh

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Saroj Kasaju

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My pleasure !

Thank you Gurucharan Sir !

Saroj Kasaju

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