Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb41 for Id- JM

[J.M. Garg]

Wild Herb captured on 13/8/10 during the trek from Ghangaria (around 11,000 ft.) to Hemkunt Sahib (around 14000 ft.).

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Scrophularia sp.

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Singh ji,

It may be Scrophularia elatior  as per FOI link:

http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Himalayan%20Figwort.html

Pl. confirm.

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[Gurcharan Singh]

S. elatior has long exserted filaments and corolla not that long.

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Singh ji,

But that is the only species of Scrophularia mentioned in Concise Flowers of Himalayas by Oleg Polunin & Adam Stainton.
Is there any species mentioned in FBI ?

[Gurcharan Singh]

Garg ji

There are eight species in Checklist of Nepal plants.

Though not included in that, but Pennell clearly mentions that the species is related to S. elatior in which stamens are far exserted. 

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SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
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Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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[Pankaj Kumar]

If I look at the keys in Flowers of Himalaya, the key says,
Stamens 4, corolla irregular, not two lipped - Digitalis,
Ellisiphyllum, Hemiphragma, Picrorhiza.
Corolla two lipped - Scrophularia, Mimulus, Lindenbergia, Oreosolon, Euphrasia

Frankly, to me this doesnt look like a two lipped corolla!!! or may be
I am looking from the wrong angle.

Pankaj

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[Gurcharan Singh]

It does look 2-lipped, but more than that I am confused about white structure inside green corolla. What could it be?

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[Pankaj Kumar]

I thought those are anthers protruding out.
Pankaj

[Pankaj Kumar]

In second pic, the flower on the left hand side, I wouldnt call it
bi-lipped?? Are you sure??
Pankaj

[Gurcharan Singh]

I was talking about white petal like structure just coming out below upper most corolla (green) lobe. I can't identify it.

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SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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[Pankaj Kumar]

Yes, I am talking about that only, I think those are anther lobes.
Such lobes protrude out in many species of Scrophularia.
Pankaj

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“Scrophularia sp.

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh”

 

“Thanks, Singh ji,

It may be Scrophularia elatior  as per FOI link:
http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Himalayan%20Figwort.html

Pl. confirm.” from me.

 

“S. elatior has long exserted filaments and corolla not that long.

--
Dr. Gurcharan Singh”

 

"Thanks, Singh ji,
But that is the only species of Scrophularia mentioned in Concise Flowers of Himalayas by Oleg Polunin & Adam Stainton.

Is there any species mentioned in FBI ?" from me.

 

"There are eight species in Checklist of Nepal plants.

Though not included in that, but Pennell clearly mentions that the species is related to S. elatior in which stamens are far exserted.

--
Dr. Gurcharan Singh"

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[Gurcharan Singh]

I light of the fact that Kew List considers S. edgeworthii, S. himalensis and S. polyantha as unresolved names, it would be advisable to consider this S. elatior only.

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[jmgarg1]

In view of discussions in the thread https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topicsearchin/indiantreepix/group:indiantreepix$20AND$20Scrophularia$20AND$20edgeworthii/indiantreepix/FZ7ledRifwg,
should we settle it as Scrophularia edgeworthii ?

 

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: 23 November 2010 10:33
Subject: Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb41 for Id- JM
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

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[Balkar Singh]

Yes  Scrophularia edgeworthii  

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Yes Garg ji

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[Nidhan Singh]

Yes, Scrophularia edgeworthii, with beautiful dark green petals.....


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