Crotalaria ¿ nana OR retusa ?

[Dinesh Valke]

Dear friends,

 

Place Vaghbil, Thane

Date: 19 SEP 09

 

Seeing this plant now blooming in the wild (scrub forests) around Mumbai and Thane.

 

...referring Floristic Survey of Institute of Science at http://iscmumbai.maharashtra.gov.in/floristic%20survey.html the Crotalaria species in attached photos seems to be C. nana.

OR is it C. retusa, else ID please.

 

Regards.

[Vijayadas D]

Is it Desmodium

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[Dr E S Santhosh Kumar]

It seems to be Crotalaria nana

 

Santhosh

2009/9/21 Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com>

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[Avinash dada]

it is neither C. nana   nor  C. retusa for id it need pods

[Dinesh Valke]

OK, Avinash ji ... will put photos at earliest when I get to see the pods.

Regards.

[Rajesh Sachdev]

Dinesh and others..is it same

http://picasaweb.google.co.in/leopardguy/FlowersPlants#5384369133624388674

2009/9/21 Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com>

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[Rajesh Sachdev]

2009/9/23 Rajesh Sachdev <leopa...@gmail.com>

[Dinesh Valke]

.. NO.

Your photo shows Smithia sensitiva ... the sensitive smithia, in Marathi: लाजाळू कावळा OR कवला lajalu kavla.

Regards.

[Pardeshi S.]

Hello Dinesh ji
check out with Crotalaria linifolia
common in Mumbai during and after monsoon

regards
Satish Pardeshi

On Sep 23, 4:05 pm, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote:
> .. NO.

> Your photo shows *Smithia sensitiva* ... the sensitive smithia, in

> Marathi: लाजाळू कावळा OR कवला lajalu kavla.
> Regards.
>

> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Rajesh Sachdev <leopard...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > Dinesh and others..is it same

> >http://picasaweb.google.co.in/leopardguy/FlowersPlants#53843691336243...
>
> >  2009/9/21 Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com>

>
> >> Dear friends,
>
> >> Place Vaghbil, Thane
> >> Date: 19 SEP 09
>
> >> Seeing this plant now blooming in the wild (scrub forests) around Mumbai
> >> and Thane.
>
> >> ...referring Floristic Survey of Institute of Science at

> >>http://iscmumbai.maharashtra.gov.in/floristic%20survey.htmlthe *
> >> Crotalaria* species in attached photos seems to be *C. nana*.
> >> OR is it *C. retusa*, else ID please.

>
> >> Regards.
>
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> > Regards
> > Rajesh Sachdev
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> >http://picasaweb.google.co.in/leopardguy

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl.

Earlier relevant feedback:

"It seems to be Crotalaria nana
 Santhosh"

"it is neither C. nana   nor  C. retusa for id it need pods" from Avinash ji.

"OK, Avinash ji ... will put photos at earliest when I get to see the pods." from Dinesh ji.

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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl.
Earlier relevant feedback:
"It seems to be Crotalaria nana
 Santhosh"
"it is neither C. nana   nor  C. retusa for id it need pods" from Avinash ji.
"OK, Avinash ji ... will put photos at earliest when I get to see the pods." from Dinesh ji.

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[Dinesh Valke]

... posting a photo of seed pod to help ID.

This photo may not yet suffice ... will be on lookout for better view another time.

 

Regards.

[Dinesh Valke]

... yet another view of the pod.

Regards.

[J.M. Garg]

[Dinesh Valke]

Dear friends,

Resurfacing this query for ID with more views (of 13NOV10 from Vaghbil, Thane) attached.

Earlier responses:
Vijayadas ji ... Is it Desmodium
Dr E S Santhosh Kumar ji ... It seems to be Crotalaria nana
Avinash dada ji ... it is neither C. nana   nor  C. retusa for id it need pods
Satish Pardeshi ji ... check out with Crotalaria linifolia ... common in Mumbai during and after monsoon


Just as Satish Pardeshi ji has put: common in Mumbai during and after monsoon ... indeed finding this plant appearing during and after monsoon, however does not look like Crotalaria linifolia as per description at PIER species info at http://www.hear.org/pier/species/crotalaria_linifolia.htm

Also observed that a few stray showers are sufficient for new plants to spring up and the old plants to flower.
Thus, it is quite normal for these Crotalaria plants to grow fresh green among the other annuals which have died and dried.

Typically, this plant grows erect and gregarious ... with delicate stem and very slender branches (branching at about 45º) ... strong breeze leave these plants bent towards ground or resting on adjacent plants.

Also need to mention the status of old plants, those that grew during monsoon: they are almost with no leaves, the stem and branches have turned woody. Unseasonal rains (during October / November) bring these old plants back to life, tiny leaves or leaves with stunted growth at old nodes, and many bright yellow flowers dot the entire seemingly dried-up plant.


Hopefully, the additional photos are sufficient to resolve the ID.



Regards.

[Gurcharan Singh]

Resurfacing this query for ID with more views (of 13NOV10 from Vaghbil, Thane) attached.

Earlier responses:
Vijayadas ji ... Is it Desmodium
Dr E S Santhosh Kumar ji ... It seems to be Crotalaria nana
Avinash dada ji ... it is neither C. nana   nor  C. retusa for id it need pods
Satish Pardeshi ji ... check out with Crotalaria linifolia ... common in Mumbai during and after monsoon


Just as Satish Pardeshi ji has put: common in Mumbai during and after monsoon ... indeed finding this plant appearing during and after monsoon, however does not look like Crotalaria linifolia as per description at PIER species info at http://www.hear.org/pier/species/crotalaria_linifolia.htm

Also observed that a few stray showers are sufficient for new plants to spring up and the old plants to flower.
Thus, it is quite normal for these Crotalaria plants to grow fresh green among the other annuals which have died and dried.

Typically, this plant grows erect and gregarious ... with delicate stem and very slender branches (branching at about 45º) ... strong breeze leave these plants bent towards ground or resting on adjacent plants.

Also need to mention the status of old plants, those that grew during monsoon: they are almost with no leaves, the stem and branches have turned woody. Unseasonal rains (during October / November) bring these old plants back to life, tiny leaves or leaves with stunted growth at old nodes, and many bright yellow flowers dot the entire seemingly dried-up plant.


Hopefully, the additional photos are sufficient to resolve the ID.

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Date: Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:20 PM
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Cc: Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com>, "Dr. Santhosh Kumar" <drsanth...@gmail.com>, Avinash dada <avinas...@gmail.com>


Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl.
Earlier relevant feedback:
"It seems to be Crotalaria nana
 Santhosh"
"it is neither C. nana   nor  C. retusa for id it need pods" from Avinash ji.
"OK, Avinash ji ... will put photos at earliest when I get to see the pods." from Dinesh ji.

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[Dinesh Valke]

Resurfacing this Crotalaria once more for querying ID.

Neil ji's post showing Crotalaria montana at https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/indiantreepix/Crotolaria$20montana/indiantreepix/in2N41I6-S4/LKe1Q87VtF4J triggered me to resurface this post.
Neil ji, your thoughts please.

Regards.
Dinesh

[Gurcharan Singh]

Resurfacing again for ID confirmation

[J.M. Garg]

Matches with images at Crotalaria montana Roth

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