Campanula cana from Manali

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Gurcharan Singh

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Oct 19, 2010, 12:07:29 PM10/19/10
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I had provisionally identified this plant with C. colorata (now known as C. pallida), but after comparison with photographs uploaded by Prashant ji, it seems my plant identifies better with C. cana, characterised by "broadly infundibuliform corolla, hairy on the outside".

Kindly validate

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Tabish

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Oct 19, 2010, 2:57:59 PM10/19/10
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Dear Gurcharan ji,
To my eye, the shape of the flower (corolla) doesn't agree with
those in the links. Yours are funnel-shaped, whereas those in the
links are like a bell-jar. Length of the sepals doesn't agree,
although it can be believed to be variable. The 3-lobed stigma in your
flowers, is also not seen in the link images.
- Tabish

On Oct 19, 9:07 pm, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I had provisionally identified this plant with C. colorata (now known as C.
> pallida), but after comparison with photographs uploaded by Prashant ji, it
> seems my plant identifies better with C. cana, characterised by "broadly
> infundibuliform corolla, hairy on the outside".
>
> Kindly validate
>
> Here are some links to compare
>
> http://efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104629&flora_id=800
>
> http://efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104630&flora_id=800
>
> http://efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=104632&flora_id=800
>
> http://books.google.com/books?id=DUCIu0MlEmwC&pg=PA254&lpg=PA254&dq=C...
>
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>  Campanula-cana-Manali-3.jpg
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>  Campanula-cana-Manali-1.jpg
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>  Campanula-cana-Manali-2.jpg
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Gurcharan Singh

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Oct 19, 2010, 4:23:24 PM10/19/10
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Tabish ji
The three stigmas is a a genus character found in all species of Campanula. I was lucky to have frontal view. Broadly infundibuliform flowers are found in this species. Please seen description of C. cana from last link.



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Tabish

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Oct 20, 2010, 1:44:33 AM10/20/10
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Gurcharan ji,
Since we are discussing Campanula species, let me just add another
picture from the web, of C. colorata.
http://plantsoftibet.lifedesks.org/image/view/2263/_original
This picture comes from the page: http://plantsoftibet.lifedesks.org/node/2263
- Tabish

On Oct 20, 1:23 am, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tabish ji
> The three stigmas is a a genus character found in all species of Campanula.
> I was lucky to have frontal view. Broadly infundibuliform flowers are found
> in this species. Please seen description of C. cana from last link.
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

J.M. Garg

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Nov 7, 2010, 11:05:15 AM11/7/10
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

To my eye, the shape of the flower (corolla) doesn't agree with
those in the links.
Yours are funnel-shaped, whereas those in the


links are like a bell-jar. Length of the sepals doesn't agree,
although it can be believed to be variable. The 3-lobed stigma in your
flowers, is also not seen in the link images.

  - Tabish”

 

“Tabish ji


The three stigmas is a a genus character found in all species of Campanula. I was lucky to have frontal view. Broadly infundibuliform flowers are found in this species. Please seen description of C. cana from last link.

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“Gurcharan ji,


  Since we are discussing Campanula species, let me just add another
picture from the web, of C. colorata.
 http://plantsoftibet.lifedesks.org/image/view/2263/_original
 This picture comes from the page: http://plantsoftibet.lifedesks.org/node/2263

 - Tabish”

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Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 7, 2010, 11:14:35 AM11/7/10
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Yes Tabish ji

I think it finally C. pallida var. pallida only


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Tabish

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Nov 7, 2010, 11:36:20 AM11/7/10
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Dear Gurcharn ji,
Thanks a lot for this link! That settles our doubts I think.
However, I will be on a lookout for the real Campanula cana, since it
is found in the Himalayas even at lower altitudes.
Best wishes
- Tabish

Pankaj Kumar

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Nov 7, 2010, 11:50:12 AM11/7/10
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Campanula pallida Wall. in As. Research. xiii. 375. 1820.
regards
Pankaj


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JM Garg

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Apr 20, 2018, 2:33:58 AM4/20/18
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J.M. Garg

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Apr 20, 2018, 2:41:42 AM4/20/18
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J.M. Garg

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May 6, 2018, 7:41:39 AM5/6/18
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Taking it as Campanula pallida (syn. C. cana) as per discussions under thread: Campanula cana ATJUNE2016/25
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