Polygonaceae for id 131110MK3
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Muthu Karthick
Nov 13, 2010, 6:11:36 AM11/13/10
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Dear all,
Please help to id this polygonaceae member. Or this belongs to any other family?
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Date/Time- |
06-11-2010 / 11:00 AM |
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Location- Place, Altitude, GP |
ca.2200asl; Kodaikanal, TN |
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Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- |
closer to water-falls |
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Plant Habit- |
shrub |
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Height/Length- |
1 -2 m |
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Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- |
6 x 3 cm |
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Inflorescence Type/ Size- |
axillary; ca.7cm longer |
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Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- |
white |
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Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- |
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Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- |
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Smita Raskar
Nov 13, 2010, 6:41:46 AM11/13/10
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Polygonum chinensis--
Smita raska
Smita raska
308 Disha Residency,
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tanay bose
Nov 13, 2010, 9:54:49 AM11/13/10
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Polygonum chinensis
Tanay
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Tanay Bose
Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant.
Department of Botany.
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Gurcharan Singh
Nov 13, 2010, 10:57:15 AM11/13/10
to tanay bose, Smita Raskar, Muthu Karthick, indiantreepix
Yes, now Persicaria chinense (L.) H. Gross, the fleshy 'fruits' are characteristic
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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
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Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
Pankaj Kumar
Nov 13, 2010, 1:01:35 PM11/13/10
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Persicaria chinensis ( L.) H.Gross Bot. Jahrb. Syst. 49: 269. 1913.
Basionym: Polygonum chinense L. Sp. Pl. 1: 363. 1753.
Just a typographic error!.
Basionym: Polygonum chinense L. Sp. Pl. 1: 363. 1753.
Just a typographic error!.
Regards
Pankaj
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Smita Raskar <smita....@gmail.com> wrote:
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Pankaj Kumar
Nov 13, 2010, 1:06:36 PM11/13/10
to Smita Raskar, Muthu Karthick, indiantreepix
I am a bit confused. IPNI writes chinensis whereas Jarvis writes chinense.
I checked the protologue. Linnaeus wrote it as CHINENSE and so the
correct spelling should be as Dr. Gurcharan said. Please accept my
apologies.
I checked the protologue. Linnaeus wrote it as CHINENSE and so the
correct spelling should be as Dr. Gurcharan said. Please accept my
apologies.
Persicaria chinense (L.) H.Gross Bot. Jahrb. Syst. 49: 269. 1913.
Basionym: Polygonum chinense L. Sp. Pl. 1: 363. 1753.
Regards
Pankaj
Tabish
Nov 13, 2010, 1:23:05 PM11/13/10
to efloraofindia
According to GRIN
Polygonum chinense L. is th basionym, and the currently accepted name
is
Persicaria chinensis (L.) H. Gross
(note the different author)
- Tabish
On Nov 13, 11:08 pm, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Type: Lectotype - Herb. Linn. No. 510.30 (LINN) attached.
>
> Regards
> Pankaj
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I am a bit confused. IPNI writes chinensis whereas Jarvis writes chinense.
> > I checked the protologue. Linnaeus wrote it as CHINENSE and so the
> > correct spelling should be as Dr. Gurcharan said. Please accept my
> > apologies.
>
> > Persicaria chinense (L.) H.Gross Bot. Jahrb. Syst. 49: 269. 1913.
> > Basionym: Polygonum chinense L. Sp. Pl. 1: 363. 1753.
>
> > Regards
>
> > Pankaj
>
> TYPE POLYGONUM CHINENSE.jpg
> 102KViewDownload
Polygonum chinense L. is th basionym, and the currently accepted name
is
Persicaria chinensis (L.) H. Gross
(note the different author)
- Tabish
On Nov 13, 11:08 pm, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Type: Lectotype - Herb. Linn. No. 510.30 (LINN) attached.
>
> Regards
> Pankaj
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I am a bit confused. IPNI writes chinensis whereas Jarvis writes chinense.
> > I checked the protologue. Linnaeus wrote it as CHINENSE and so the
> > correct spelling should be as Dr. Gurcharan said. Please accept my
> > apologies.
>
> > Persicaria chinense (L.) H.Gross Bot. Jahrb. Syst. 49: 269. 1913.
> > Basionym: Polygonum chinense L. Sp. Pl. 1: 363. 1753.
>
> > Regards
>
> > Pankaj
>
> > On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Persicaria chinensis ( L.) H.Gross Bot. Jahrb. Syst. 49: 269. 1913.
> >> Basionym: Polygonum chinense L. Sp. Pl. 1: 363. 1753.
> >> Just a typographic error!.
>
> >> Regards
> >> Pankaj
>
> >> Persicaria chinensis ( L.) H.Gross Bot. Jahrb. Syst. 49: 269. 1913.
> >> Basionym: Polygonum chinense L. Sp. Pl. 1: 363. 1753.
> >> Just a typographic error!.
>
> >> Regards
> >> Pankaj
>
> >> On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Smita Raskar <smita.ras...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Polygonum chinensis
>
>
> >>> Polygonum chinensis
>
> 102KViewDownload
Gurcharan Singh
Nov 13, 2010, 1:30:55 PM11/13/10
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No Pankaj ji
I was wrong, probably because the above two posts had chinensis instead of correct chinense. My epithet had to be different from specific epithet of Polygonum, so I repeated the mistake.
It should be Persicaria chinensis (L.) H. Gross, as Tabish ji writes.
--
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
Pankaj Kumar
Nov 13, 2010, 1:37:23 PM11/13/10
to Gurcharan Singh, Tabish, efloraofindia
I am downloading H.Gross's, Botanische Jahrbücher für Systematik,
Pflanzengeschichte und Pflanzengeographie. Lets see whats there
inside. Though it is in german, will have to do some hard work finding
as it is not on page 269.
By the way, usually the name shouldnt change, unless there is an issue
of latin gender.
Pankaj
Pflanzengeschichte und Pflanzengeographie. Lets see whats there
inside. Though it is in german, will have to do some hard work finding
as it is not on page 269.
By the way, usually the name shouldnt change, unless there is an issue
of latin gender.
Pankaj
Pankaj Kumar
Nov 13, 2010, 2:54:29 PM11/13/10
to Gurcharan Singh, Tabish, efloraofindia
I checked H.Gross's reference and he has mentioned the name as
chinensis. No reasons provided, but I failed to understand that the
reasons were obvious. It was stupid of me.
The main reason was change in GENDER from PolygonUM to PersicariA,
hence chinensIS was changed to chinensE.
chinensis. No reasons provided, but I failed to understand that the
reasons were obvious. It was stupid of me.
The main reason was change in GENDER from PolygonUM to PersicariA,
hence chinensIS was changed to chinensE.
Regards
Pankaj
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Gurcharan Singh <sing...@gmail.com> wrote:
Pankaj Kumar
Nov 13, 2010, 2:56:04 PM11/13/10
to Gurcharan Singh, Tabish, efloraofindia
Persicaria means leaves similar to peech tree.... I didnt know that
earlier either !!
Pankaj
earlier either !!
Pankaj
Muthu Karthick
Nov 15, 2010, 5:18:04 AM11/15/10
to Pankaj Kumar, Gurcharan Singh, Tabish, efloraofindia
Many thanks for the inputs.
Missouri Botanical garden gives Polygonum chinense L. as accepted name. http://tropicos.org/NameAcceptedNames.aspx?nameid=50133756
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