Kalatope Calanthe id al180611a

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Alok Mahendroo

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Jun 18, 2011, 12:18:28 PM6/18/11
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Dear friends,
Another Calanthe from our area, I had noticed the buds last year but was
not able to watch the flowering.. and did not know the flower.. this
year I remembered and went looking in the forest and was just able to
witness the last flowering .. hence the flowers are not in their prime..
just enough for me to see that they are the same type as the last
Calanthe orchid I had found..

Location Kalatope Sanctuary
Altitude 2400mts
Habit herb
Habitat wild
Height 20 inches

Regards
Alok

P.S. the photo of the buds is from last year...
Alok
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Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 3, 2011, 2:14:47 AM9/3/11
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Resurfacing again for ID



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Giby Kuriakose

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Sep 3, 2011, 9:41:56 AM9/3/11
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Could this be Calanthe tricarniata? The lip is not clear hence too difficult to confirm I guess. May be Pankaj can validate the same. 



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Giby



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Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 3, 2011, 9:53:46 AM9/3/11
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For me also closest match is C. tricarinata (I hope Pankaj ji does not read my comment---from a novice on orchids; My match is based on three species described in Flora simlensis)


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Pankaj Kumar

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Sep 3, 2011, 3:07:49 PM9/3/11
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If it is tricarinata then there should be three carinate lamellae on
the labellum. Which I cant see properly. By the look of the colors of
the petals and sepals, it does look like Calanthe tricarinata, but I
have seen fainted Calanthe plantaginea, it looks the same too. I
remember last time what he showed was very much plantaginea and HE
claims its the same plant.
Regards
Pankaj

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Pankaj Kumar

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Sep 3, 2011, 3:48:59 PM9/3/11
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And yeah, I have no issues if Gurcharan sir leads in answering :)). It
makes me happy to know that group is not fully dependent on me. Thats
the way it should be and for sure I make lot of mistakes. But I have
one good habit of rechecking my own ids. Its because somehow, if I see
any orchid live or pic, it always remains in my head. So whenever I
come across any reference book with similar characters, I always
recheck, though I may not comment on the thread until I find my own id
wrong.
I am sure, if I had given this pic to some orchid people outside the
group without actually telling the elevation, many of them would have
thought of Eulophia !!!
Few days back I realised I made mistakes and asked Smita to resend the
picture she had sent months back and I was confirm that I was wrong
though while identifying earlier I was sure of the ID. Orchids have
always been tricky.
I always say, I can go wrong, anyone can go wrong!!! and rechecking always help.
Regards
Pankaj

Smita Raskar

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Sep 4, 2011, 12:03:17 AM9/4/11
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Any one can be wrong in id of plant on the basis of just picture of flower or leaves...thats not big issue
but when it comes to you Pankaj,yeah i am sure you are after that specimen till you will be satisfied that your identification is 100% correct ...
thats why i trust you and i validate id of all my orchids from you, i appreciate your dedication and sincerity 
Yeah you asked for more pictures from me to validate  previous id...thats true....
Experts like you, Gurucharan sir&many more makes group richer!!! so  be with us...with group for perfect id... Cheers!!!


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Alok Mahendroo

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Sep 4, 2011, 2:15:37 AM9/4/11
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Dear Pankaj ji and Gurcharan ji,
I am sorry if my language is not clear enough..
1. The Calanthe Plantigenia of Kalatope id'd earlier by Pankaj ji was
found at a lower altitude and at a different time of the year
2. This one reminded me of Calanthe's BECAUSE of it's shape... BUT I do
not think it is the same as C. Plantigenia.
3. I HAD found this plant at the same place last year but then it was
not flowering (just budding) and this year by the time I had gone to
it's location (in June).. the flowering had just finished... Where the
C. plantigenia had finished flowering two months before this.


Of course I am not an expert on this subject.. Hence I'd rather wait for
next year (if I am still here) to confirm these findings..
regards
Alok

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Pankaj Kumar

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Sep 4, 2011, 2:25:11 AM9/4/11
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Respected Alok sir
This is an example of mistake which can arise when you do not provide
the date of taking pictures.
If you have collected it in August then for sure this should be
Calanthe tricarinata.....
Calanthe plantaginea flowers during April.......
I have no issues with your language at all so cheer up.
Pankaj

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Alok Mahendroo

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Sep 4, 2011, 3:31:24 AM9/4/11
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Thank you Pankaj ji,
There is nothing in your gentle chides sir, to make me feel bad.. after
all people like you and Gurcharan ji are teaching us... and false ego
has no place in learning.. I am very glad that all the members take so
much of pain to id the plants which makes us learn and be more careful
about our observations... Already in the past few months, I feel that I
have learned some things (if not a lot) from all of you...
regards
Alok
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