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Dalia Set

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Jun 3, 2011, 4:02:16 AM6/3/11
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Hi Friends
 
Please id this climber - it has bunches of fruits on it. Found in Chintamoni Kar Bird Sactuary- South 24 Pargana , West Bengal few days back.
 
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Dalia Set
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Smilax004

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Jun 3, 2011, 4:14:37 AM6/3/11
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This could be Smilax sp (Liliaceae)

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Giby
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prasad dash

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Jun 3, 2011, 4:22:28 AM6/3/11
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Smilax sp (please add leaf size) for species conformation

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Dr Pankaj Kumar

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Jun 3, 2011, 4:13:04 AM6/3/11
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Smilax zeylanica
Pankaj

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Dalia Set

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Jun 3, 2011, 4:32:43 AM6/3/11
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The leaf size is 5-6 inches long. Will it be sufficient for sp. confirmation?
 
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Dalia Set

Gurcharan Singh

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Aug 14, 2011, 9:15:49 PM8/14/11
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Resurfacing again for ID confirmation

Earlier feedback

Giby ji........................................................This could be Smilax sp (Liliaceae)

Prasad ji.....................................................Smilax sp (please add leaf size) for species conformation

Pankaj ji....................................................Smilax zeylanica

Dalia ji.....................................................The leaf size is 5-6 inches long. Will it be sufficient for sp. confirmation?


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Vijayasankar

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Aug 15, 2011, 12:58:32 AM8/15/11
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This could be either Smilax macrophylla (= S. ovalifolia) or S. perfoliata.
 
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Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi

H S

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Aug 15, 2011, 1:52:31 AM8/15/11
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Smilax zeylanica

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Giby Kuriakose

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Aug 15, 2011, 3:21:32 AM8/15/11
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I would preferably stand for Smilax perfoliata as Vijay suggested because of the number of umbels per inflorescence, leaf size and venation. 
Please check the following link. 

Smilax zeylanica generally has one umbel per inflorescence. 

Further, may be another discussion Vijay. According to "the plant list", Smilax macrophylla and Smilax ovalifolia Roxb. ex D.Don are different species and Smilax macrophylla is become a synonym of Smilax guianensis Vitman. 



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Giby



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Vijayasankar

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Aug 15, 2011, 10:25:55 AM8/15/11
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Thanks Giby, you are also correct.
Willdenow's S. macrophylla is synonym of S. guianensis. But, Roxburgh's plant of S. macrophylla, which is dealt in most of our Indian Floras, is a synonym of S. ovalifolia Roxb.
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=240001594
http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-288956

 
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Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi


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