Indonesian Flower_5

[Pudji Widodo]

Dear Friends,

A small tree in IPB gardens, it looks like Saraca, 4 m tall, ca 10 cm diameter, but the label says "Maniltoa grandiflora". What is it?  Thank you.

Pudji Widodo
Fakultas Biologi Universitas Jenderal Soedirman
PURWOKETTO 53122 INDONESIA

[tanay bose]

Saraca asoca from Fabaceae

tanay

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[tanay bose]

Maniltoa grandiflora or or commonly known as  Dove Tree, Ghost Tree, Handkerchief Tree looks completely different and has no morphological similarity with this tree. Kindly see from the link below

http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/Maniltoa_grandiflora.htm

Tanay

[mani nair]

This Saraca asoca only.  There is some mistake in the label.

Regards,

Mani.

[Pankaj Kumar]

yes, this is Saraca asoca.
Pankaj

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[sanal nair]

Hi friends,
As such we are innundated with a lot of queries about
the beautiful trees found in India. So why burden this site with other
trees found outside India. Let us please restrict ourselves to India.
Regards,
Sanal Nair

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Singh ji,

Then it should be Saraca indica L. as per your following observations in the thread https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/788195fdc8763120?hl=en

"saraca indica L. and Saraca asoca (Roxb.) W. J. de Wilde. are two quite distinct species

Saraca indica L. is distributed in Indo-China: Laos; Thailand; Vietnam
Malesia: Indonesia - Java, Sumatra; Malaysia [Malaya]

Saraca asoca (Roxb.) Willd. is distributed in Indian Subcontinent: Bangladesh; India; Sri Lanka
Indo-China: Myanmar [w.]

The problem arose when Baker in Flora of British India followed Beddome Fl. Sylv. t.57 in considering Jonesia asoka Roxb. (on which name Saraca asoka (Roxb.) Wilde) as synonym of Sarca indica L. and followed by Several Indian authors. As the two species are distinct, the synonymy for Indian plant would be

Saraca asoca (Roxb.) W. J. de Wilde, Blumea 15:393. 1968
syn: Jonesia asoca Roxb.; Saraca indica auct. (non L.); Baker in Fl. Brit. Ind. 2: 271, 1878"

 

Pl. confirm.

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Garg ji

For final confirmation, some one will have to dig out the real differences between the two species. Perhaps some colleagues can find this out. Blumea, vol. 15, 1968 should have some clue. 

May be Pankaj ji, Tanay, Ritesh ji, Mayur ji or any other colleague having access to library or online resources can  help.

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[Pankaj Kumar]

Blumea volumes are not available from before 2004. I have written to
some one in US, lets hope I cant get that reference.
Then I can look further.
Regards
Pankaj

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“Saraca asoca from Fabaceae
tanay”                  

 

“yes, this is Saraca asoca.
Pankaj”

 

“Thanks, Singh ji,

Then it should be Saraca indica L. as per your following observations in the thread https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/788195fdc8763120?hl=en

 

'saraca indica L. and Saraca asoca (Roxb.) W. J. de Wilde. are two quite distinct species

Saraca indica L. is distributed in Indo-China: Laos; Thailand; Vietnam Malesia: Indonesia - Java, Sumatra; Malaysia [Malaya]

 

Saraca asoca (Roxb.) Willd. is distributed in Indian Subcontinent: Bangladesh; India; Sri Lanka Indo-China: Myanmar [w.]

 

The problem arose when Baker in Flora of British India followed Beddome Fl. Sylv. t.57 in considering Jonesia asoka Roxb. (on which name Saraca asoka (Roxb.) Wilde) as synonym of Sarca indica L. and followed by Several Indian authors. As the two species are distinct, the synonymy for Indian plant would be

 

Saraca asoca (Roxb.) W. J. de Wilde, Blumea 15:393. 1968
syn: Jonesia asoca Roxb.; Saraca indica auct. (non L.); Baker in Fl. Brit. Ind. 2: 271, 1878'
 

Pl. confirm.”

"For final confirmation, some one will have to dig out the real differences between the two species. Perhaps some colleagues can find this out. Blumea, vol. 15, 1968 should have some clue.
May be Pankaj ji, Tanay, Ritesh ji, Mayur ji or any other colleague having access to library or online resources can  help.

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh"

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Date: 23 December 2010 06:47
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The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1680 members & 75,000 messages on 31/7/11) or Efloraofindia website: https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database of more than 5000 species)

[Giby Kuriakose]

Yes this is Saraca asoca of Leguminosae family.

Regards,

Giby

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