Tree for ID| 17Nov10AR01

[raghu ananth]

Regional Name: Goddana Mara (Gojjalu Mara)

Scientific name: Garuga Pinnata (?) (To be validated)

Height: 75 feet, Leaf size-10cms, opposite

Sep 2010

Hebbal village, Mysore district

Habitat: Near to an irrigation water channel

Regards

Raghu

[rajdeo singh]

Raghu ji,

I think the posted plant photograph is of Ailanthus excelsa Roxb.from family SIMAROUBACEAE.

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 Rajdeo Singh
Project fellow
DIMPR Project,
St. Xavier's College,
Mumbai

[promila chaturvedi]

The branching angle of this tree looks  different. That is why I feel it is not A. excelsa. And the tree's profile is also different.

Promila

[Dinesh Valke]

... me too believe the plant posted to be Ailanthus excelsa ... commonly known as: Coromandel ailanto, tree of heaven • Gujarati: અરડૂસો araduso, રૂખડો rukhdo • Hindi: जंगली सर्व jangli sarva, महानींब mahanimb, महारूख maharukh • Kannada: ದೊಡ್ಡಮರ doddamara, ಹೆಮ್ಮರ hemmara • Malayalam: പീമരം peemaram, പീനാറി peenari, പെരുമരം perumaram, പെരുപ്പി peruppi • Marathi: महारुख maharukh • Oriya: mundayigatch • Sanskrit: अटरूषकः atarusaka, महानिम्बः mahanimbah • Tamil: பெருமரம் peru-maram • Telugu: పెద్దమాను pedda-manu • Urdu: جنگلي سرو jungli sarva


Raghu ji, per what found on the internet ..
godda could be an apt name for Lannea coromandelica, the wodier tree, other names in Kannada being: ಗುಮ್ಪಿನ gumpina, ಕುರಟಿಗ kuratige, ಉದಿಮರ udimara
godde could be the grey downy balsam tree, Garuga pinnata, other names in Kannada being: ಅರನೆಲ್ಲಿ aranelli, ಬಿಳಿಗಡ್ಡೆ biligadde, ಕಾಷ್ಠನೆಲ್ಲಿ kaashthanelli

... but of course, being a native, you may please correct these names, if in error.


Regards.

[tanay bose]

Ailanthus excelsa in bengali we call this 'Aakashmani"

Tanay

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[C KUNHIKANNAN]

yes it is Ailanthus excelsa
kunhikannan

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Division of Biodiversity,
Institute of Forest Genetics and Tree Breeding,
Forest Campus,  R.S.Puram,
Coimbatore-641002, Tamilnadu.

[raghu ananth]

Many of the people in the village know this solitary tree and call it by the name  Goddana mara, It is in fact considered to be of no significant commercial/ importance and left uncut. Trees like these are found in one or two numbers in the entire region and villagers are not aware of its  key identification or use Sometimes the local & scientific names contradict. More over the villagers do not know the names of any of the non native trees. for eg. They do not know the local/common name of the Gul mohar tree.

 

I agree scientific validation  from experts is a must for a prudent confirmation, despite the popular local names.

Thanks to every one for the ID help.

From Kittel dictionary

Dodda Mani Mara ==> A lofty tree, Ailanthus excelsa

http://books.google.co.in/books?id=HBUsaxC61mkC&pg=PA809&dq=Ailanthus+excelsa+kittel+dictionary&hl=en&ei=PCTkTNiJDZCmuQPu1vC2DQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

Godda mara, Goddana mara ==> The sun paper tree, Ficus Asperrima

http://books.google.co.in/books?id=epPhgMbrmdMC&pg=PA567&lpg=PA567&dq=godda+kittel+dictionary&source=bl&ots=cQVtmBQE0d&sig=jVLHNJssTUgNU9P-2CvEiinsxzY&hl=en&ei=7yHkTJu2O4KyvgOQovnODA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

Regards

Raghu

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From: C KUNHIKANNAN <kunhi...@gmail.com>
To: tanay bose <tanay...@gmail.com>
Cc: Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com>; promila chaturvedi <thegardener...@gmail.com>; raghu ananth <ragh...@yahoo.com>; indian...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, 17 November, 2010 10:46:37 PM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:54627] Tree for ID| 17Nov10AR01

[Dinesh Valke]

Raghu ji ... what does godda in Kannada translate to ?
The sun paper tree (Ficus asperrima) could be a typo for sand paper tree.

Regards.

[raghu ananth]

Godda is a black ant. The bite of which are rather painful

Goddana mara - The tree where black ant (Godda) lives

PS: Godda, the black ant picture attached.

Regards

Raghu

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From: Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com>
To: raghu ananth <ragh...@yahoo.com>
Cc: C KUNHIKANNAN <kunhi...@gmail.com>; indian...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, 18 November, 2010 7:07:56 AM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:54662] Tree for ID| 17Nov10AR01

[raghu ananth]

Yes,  Ficus asperrima is Sand paper tree. 

Regarding sun-paper, as you said it could be a typo.

Regards

raghu

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From: Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com>
To: raghu ananth <ragh...@yahoo.com>

Sent: Thu, 18 November, 2010 9:32:38 AM

Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:54662] Tree for ID| 17Nov10AR01

Thank you very much, Raghu ji.
Regards.

[Neil Soares]

Hi,  These look like the Common Godzilla Ants [Camponotus compressus].   Also Streblus asper is commonly known as the Sandpaper tree.                               With regards,                                 Neil Soares.   --- On Thu, 11/18/10, raghu ananth <ragh...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[Madhuri Pejaver]

Godda when transleted to Kannada as was asked  by Dineshji is Katte.

In Marathi Mungala or Dongala.

Black ant is of smaller size and harmless, while this one bites.

Madhuri

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From: raghu ananth <ragh...@yahoo.com>
To: Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Thu, 18 November, 2010 9:29:42 AM

Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:54666] Tree for ID| 17Nov10AR01

[Pankaj Kumar]

Ailanthus excelsa Roxb. Pl. Coromandel i: 24 - 25, t. 23. 1795.

Regards
Pankaj

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 3:16 PM, raghu ananth <ragh...@yahoo.com> wrote:

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