Malvaceae Week: Hibiskus blue, red and white from Bremen and Ritterhude

[Na Bha]

Hallo all,
The white flower is from my friends garden in Bremen. Sept. 2011

The other flowers are from my garden in Ritterhude. Sept 2010
Regards
Nalini

[Gurcharan Singh]

I hope all Hibiscus syriacus, Rose of sharon

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

[Ushadi micromini]

Very nice colors and pictures, na bha.. they look like rose of sharon
to me

quick way to know would be: Do these die with snow?
or survive the winter and the snow...
if they survive and thrive... they would be more likely rose of
sharon... than garden variety hibiscus ...
I have submited two plants of rose of sharon... would be a nice
comparison...

Usha di
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[Ushadi micromini]

Gurucharanji... I guess we were writing this almost at the same
time...
our minds think alike in this case!!

Usha di
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On Sep 11, 7:24 am, Ushadi micromini <microminipho...@gmail.com>
wrote:

[Gurcharan Singh]

Yes Usha di

But I could not understand "Do these die with snow?"

Incidently, this is one tree (normally a shrub but older ones become almost a tree) I know since I was in class 1 of school. In compound of our school, there was no grass left because of nearly 500-600 students playing in a small area of not more that 1 hectare or so. There were about 20 trees of this in the area we used to play in lower classes, and the tree is characteristic as ground was littered with fallen flowers and we would often pick them up and play as children. The tree being deciduous loses all its leaves in autumn when ground would be littered with leaves. The tree remaining leafless in winter till new leaves and then flowers appear in March-April. 

 Did you mean that as die in snow?

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

[Ushadi micromini]

1
if they die... they are the annual hibiscus our JABAKUSUM... that
does not survive ny or europan winter outside...
2
if it survives... most like its the tree ..rose of sharon . a laymens
easy way to start the diagnosis in one's garden..!!!

usha di
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On Sep 11, 7:49 am, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes Usha di
> But I could not understand "Do these die with snow?"
>
> Incidently, this is one tree (normally a shrub but older ones become almost
> a tree) I know since I was in class 1 of school. In compound of our school,
> there was no grass left because of nearly 500-600 students playing in a
> small area of not more that 1 hectare or so. There were about 20 trees of
> this in the area we used to play in lower classes, and the tree is
> characteristic as ground was littered with fallen flowers and we would often
> pick them up and play as children. The tree being deciduous loses all its
> leaves in autumn when ground would be littered with leaves. The tree
> remaining leafless in winter till new leaves and then flowers appear in
> March-April.
>  Did you mean that as die in snow?
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.

> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Ushadi micromini <microminipho...@gmail.com

[Ushadi micromini]

oh, this tree that you describe is indeed rose of sharon from its
history alone...

what a nice story, love it..
usha di

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On Sep 11, 7:49 am, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes Usha di
> But I could not understand "Do these die with snow?"
>
> Incidently, this is one tree (normally a shrub but older ones become almost
> a tree) I know since I was in class 1 of school. In compound of our school,
> there was no grass left because of nearly 500-600 students playing in a
> small area of not more that 1 hectare or so. There were about 20 trees of
> this in the area we used to play in lower classes, and the tree is
> characteristic as ground was littered with fallen flowers and we would often
> pick them up and play as children. The tree being deciduous loses all its
> leaves in autumn when ground would be littered with leaves. The tree
> remaining leafless in winter till new leaves and then flowers appear in
> March-April.
>  Did you mean that as die in snow?
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.

> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Ushadi micromini <microminipho...@gmail.com

[Gurcharan Singh]

Ushadi

We don't use the term annual for trees or shrubs

If they lose leaves in winter they are deciduous trees or shrubs (apple, pear, cherry, willow, poplar)

If leaves persist year round  they are evergreen trees and shrubs (pines, mango, jamun, Eucalyptus, guava, etc.)

Only in herbs the plant dies and the springs up from seeds only (Annual herb-pansy, aster, calendula, candy tuft, etc) or from perennating  underground rhizome, bulb, etc. (perennial herb-Dahlia, Iris, Ginger, daffodils etc.) during the growiong season.

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

[ushadi Micromini]

Yes, Gurucharanji...Yes... basic botany 101 , thanks..


But I was talking only about na bha's flowering plant...   if they die off totally in winter ( in NY or northern Europe when out in the garden) these  "plants" are  they not ROSE of sharon....

Since Na bha had identified her plant as Hibiscus I was telling her why it was not. a jabakusum...

jabakusm hibiscus would die in her gadren in snow and winter, rose of sharon wil not...

that's all I was getting at...  I was giving her a differential diagnosis like we do in medicine...
:)
Usha di

[Gurcharan Singh]

Thanks Ushadi

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

[Na Bha]

They survive the winter.
I am lazy, I plant only things that I don't have to dig out before winter.
Nalini

[Na Bha]

I interpreted it that way. I also have one room Hibiskus, which will die with snow. Th coclor is beautiful, but i think, I did not take a foto this februar. But I can send the foto od the plant. perhaps experts can notice the difference.
Give me a few more days.

[ushadi Micromini]

so, good, rose of sharon, final verdict, my dear Watson!

usha di
ps room hibiscus would most likely be jabakusum!
??
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[Madhuri Pejaver]

Wow
what colours
madhuri

--- On Sun, 11/9/11, Na Bha <nabha-...@gmx.de> wrote: