24052011pj1 Id request

[PUTTARAJU K]

Dear All,

Id requested for the following attachment.

Date/Time-: 12/04/11 - 09:45

Location- Place, Altitude - Kaiga , Uttar Kannada ,Karnataka, 380 mtrs

Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- wild

Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- tree

Height/Length-7-8m

With Regards,
PUTTARAJU K,
SCIENTIFIC OFFICER,
KAIGA ATOMIC POWER PLANT,
POST-KAIGA, U.K.DISTRICT,
KARNATAKA -581400
MOB : 9448999150
EMAIL : pakshir...@gmail.com
kputt...@npcil.co.in

[Neil Soares]

Hi,  This is Lagerstroemia lanceolata [L.microcarpa] locally called Seena or Bhondara. Had recently posted photographs of this and they are available at this link:   https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/918bbbe3a8b190d1/7677b6f35b17d467?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=Lagerstroemia+lanceolata+Neil+Soares#7677b6f35b17d467                                        With regards,                                        Neil Soares. --- On Wed, 5/25/11, PUTTARAJU K <pakshir...@gmail.com> wrote:

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“This is Lagerstroemia lanceolata [L.microcarpa] locally called Seena or Bhondara. Had recently posted photographs of this and they are available at this link: 
https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/918bbbe3a8b190d1/7677b6f35b17d467?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=Lagerstroemia+lanceolata+Neil+Soares#7677b6f35b17d467 
                                     With regards,
                                       Neil Soares.”

 

From me: There are three different unresolved names of Lagerstroemia lanceolata as below as per the Plant list (http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/search?q=Lagerstroemia+lanceolata+):
Name Status Confi­dence level Source
Lagerstroemia lanceolata Wight & Arn. Unresolved WCSP (in review)
Lagerstroemia lanceolata Wall. Unresolved WCSP (in review)
Lagerstroemia lanceolata Wall. ex C.B.Clarke Unresolved WCSP (in review)

 

There is no valid name as Lagerstroemia microcarpa  as per the plant List:

http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/search?q=Lagerstroemia+microcarpa+

 

Which one is the posted one ?

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: PUTTARAJU K <pakshir...@gmail.com>
Date: 25 May 2011 00:05
Subject: [efloraofindia:70223] 24052011pj1 Id request
To: indiantreepix <indian...@googlegroups.com>

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[J.M. Garg]

A reply:

"This is Lagerstroemia parviflora and not L. lanceolata
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Navendu Page"

[Giby Kuriakose]

Yes I agree with Navendu, it is Lagerstroemia parviflora of Lythraceae family. Glaucous (beneath) leaves (reyish/ bluish colour of leaves) is a key character. 

Regards,

Giby

On 29 August 2011 11:19, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Neil Soares]

Hi Dr.Giby & Dr.Navendu,   As I had stated previously, the tree in question here is Lagerstroemia lanceolata [L.microcarpa] locally called Seena / Bhondara.   The photographs are not clear enough to comment on the colour / texture of the leaves. However the leaves are clearly lanceolate and the fruit capsules [seen in the second photograph] are large [about 2-3 by 1-2 cms].  The confusion may have arisen because you both are following Cooke's classification. I have written about this and it is available at this link :   https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/76c8d509feb350ab/e33e4f0999680768?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=Lagerstroemia+parviflora+Neil+Soares#e33e4f0999680768    My previous photographs of L.parviflora [Nana] are also available in the archives of this site, but I will send a few more of my recent photographs in a separate mail for comparison.                                With regards,                                  Neil Soares. --- On Mon, 8/29/11, Giby Kuriakose <giby.ku...@gmail.com> wrote:  tFrom: Giby Kuriakose <giby.ku...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:78739] 24052011pj1 Id request To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com> Cc: "efloraofindia" <indian...@googlegroups.com>, dinesh...@gmail.com, pka...@gmail.com, le...@rediffmail.com, rajde...@gmail.com, satishp...@gmail.com, drsmp...@gmail.com, anala...@gmail.com, swee...@gmail.com, nudra...@gmail.com, tcha...@gmail.com, drneil...@yahoo.com, raani...@gmail.com, Plumbago...@gmail.com, hems...@gmail.com, devar...@gmail.com, sheeta...@gmail.com, "Pravin Kawale" <kawale...@gmail.com>, vinay...@gmail.com, vijay.b...@gmail.com, adav...@gmail.com, noorunni...@frlht.org, navend...@gmail.com Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 11:47 PM

[navendu page]

@Neil: What you are saying could be correct. The leaves of what cook calls parviflora are indeed more lanceolate than those of what he calls lanceolata. However L. lanceolata was previously called L.microcarpa (tiny fruits) so the size of the fruit of this plant matches L. parviflora better (2-3 cm as against 1-1.5 cm) than L.  lanceolata (L. microcarpa)

That being said, I would still urge you and also others to validate Dr. Almeida's assertion and not just take his word for it.

Regards