Hibiscus-MN040411

[mani nair]

Dear friends,
Sending pictures of Hibiscus growing at our garden.

Place ; Dombivli
Date   : 03.04.11

Regards,

Mani

[Na Bha]

very beautiful flower. what hibiscus is it?

Regards

Nalini

[mani nair]

Sorry Nalini ji I do not know.  It is a double variety hibiscus. 
Waiting for answers from experts.
Regards,
Mani.

[tanay bose]

Very Nice Mani Ji 

I also had this variety in My garden 

Tanay

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[mani nair]

Thanks Tanay ji for the appreciation.
Regards,
Mani

[Devipriya V]

Dear Mani sir,

 

                              This is Hibiscus rosa-sinensis cv. El Capitolio Sport....(International Hibiscus society )

 

 

 

                                                                                                       regards,

 

 

                                                                                                                           devipriya

[arjun]

Super variety Maniji !!

On Apr 4, 1:17 pm, Devipriya V <devipriyasc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Mani sir,
>

>                               This is *Hibiscus rosa-sinensis* cv. *El
> Capitolio Sport....*(International Hibiscus society )
>
> regards,
>
> devipriya

>
> On 4 April 2011 18:51, mani nair <mani.na...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Thanks Tanay ji for the appreciation.
> > Regards,
> > Mani
>

> > On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 6:38 PM, tanay bose <tanaybos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Very Nice Mani Ji
> >> I also had this variety in My garden
> >> Tanay
>

> >> On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 4:29 AM, mani nair <mani.na...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Sorry Nalini ji I do not know.  It is a double variety hibiscus.
> >>> Waiting for answers from experts.
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Mani.
>

> >>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Na Bha <nabha-megh...@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> >>>>  very beautiful flower. what hibiscus is it?
> >>>> Regards
> >>>> Nalini
>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----

> >>>> *From:* mani nair <mani.na...@gmail.com>
> >>>> *To:* indian...@googlegroups.com
> >>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2011 8:38 AM
> >>>> *Subject:* [efloraofindia:66260] Hibiscus-MN040411

>
> >>>> Dear friends,
> >>>> Sending pictures of Hibiscus growing at our garden.
>
> >>>> Place ; Dombivli
> >>>> Date   : 03.04.11
>
> >>>> Regards,
>
> >>>> Mani
>
> >> --

> >> *Tanay Bose*

> >> Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant.
> >> Department of Botany.
> >> University of British Columbia .
> >> 3529-6270 University Blvd.
> >> Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
> >> Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
> >>            604-822-2019 (Lab)
> >>            604-822-6089  (Fax)
> >> ta...@interchange.ubc.ca

> >>  *Webpages:*

[Na Bha]

Does it produce seeds Mani ji?

[Gurcharan Singh]

I thought this should be Hibiscus schizopetalous 'Pagoda'

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Resurfacing again for ID

Earlier feedback

Devipriya ji.............................................   This is Hibiscus rosa-sinensis cv. El Capitolio Sport....(International Hibiscus society )

 

Me........................................................I thought this should be Hibiscus schizopetalous 'Pagoda'

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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

[Gurcharan Singh]

Dear Devipriya ji

Thanks for citing a combination made in 1879 and followed by Sivarajan in 1996. Perhaps it may interest you to know that KEW Plant List has been published in 2010, and it lists  H. schizopetalous as an accepted name and Dyer;s combination as mere synonym. based on WCSP. It is also considered as accepted name by TROPICOS and GRIN (updated December, 2009).

Both H. rosa-sinensis and H. schizopetalous have lot of colour forms, the latter being characterised by laciniate petals clearly seen in above plant.

According to me the above plant is a cultivar known as H. schizopetalous 'Pagoda'

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tuis_imaging/466992977/

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Devipriya V <devipri...@gmail.com> wrote:

Respected Gurucharanji,

 

                  Hibiscus rosa-sinensis Linn. var. schizopetalus (Dyer) Mast. has medium and red single flowers characterized by dissected petals, long pedicels and long projecting staminal columns. Stamens 60-90, monadelphous, borne on the upper one third of the staminal column.

 

The plant in the photo is given as Hibiscus rosa-sinensis Linn. cv. El capitolio Sport in the website of the International Hibiscus Society.

 

 

Although there is a long controversy as to the systematic ranking of the former, i.e. H. schizopetalus vs. H. rosa-sinensis var. schizopetalus, Sivarajan & Pradeep (1996) have retained it as a variety under the H. rosa-sinensis species-complex.

 

Sivarajan & Pradeep (1996) have also reported that the variety is also used in the production of garden hybrids with Hibiscus rosa-sinensis. So I feel that the cultivar El Capitolio sport might have originated in this manner, although this needs to be verified.

 

In the IHS website, its parents are mentioned as cv. El Capitolio - the red cultivar of this type double flower with hanging centre, and its father as cv. Sport - its details are not given. Further, the parents of El Capitolio are also ot known. So I feel that the chance of Hibiscus rosa-sinensis var. rosa-sinensis or H. rosa-sinensis var. schizopetalus, being one of the parents or grand parents might be there.

 

with regrads,

 

devipriya

[mani nair]

Thanks Devipriya ji and Gurcharan ji for the info and flower ID.  I think the flower in the link sent by Gurcharan ji is similar to the flower photo sent by me.   

Regards,

Mani.