Acanthaceae for id 290110MK2

[Muthu Karthick]

Hi all,

This herb is locally distributed more in dry regions of Satyamangalam RF, at altitude of 450 msl. They grow up to a meter in height.

Kindly help to identify.

Date: 20 Jan 2010

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Resurfacing again for ID

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[Dinesh Valke]

... may not help in ID, the testure and colour of flower remind me of Eranthemum species ... leaves too look like it.
Regards.

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Earlier relevant feedback:

“... may not help in ID, the testure and colour of flower remind me of Eranthemum species ... leaves too look like it.” from Dinesh ji.

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[rashida atthar]

I too believe these are Eranthemum roseum, attenuate leaves seen too.
 
regards,
Rashida.
 

 

 

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[Parjanya guru]

I agree with Rashida..
These are flowers of Eranthemum roseum..
.. But please check for the fragrance...

[tanay bose]

Dear All,

I go with Rashida Ji the plant is Eranthemum roseum.
Regards

Tanay

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[Muthu Karthick]

Thank you all, for the clarification.

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[Muthu Karthick]

Dear all,

Is this the plant called 'December Poo' in Tamil nadu? Please clarify

[Muthu Karthick]

Dear all, 

This is not Eranthemum roseum as the bracts are different when compared here, https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/16cd495a9e0cfce/93418138a1b47a54?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=Eranthemum#93418138a1b47a54

https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/834a31171f9ba558/ac39e4e4a45fff4b?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=Eranthemum#ac39e4e4a45fff4b

Please validate.

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Earlier relevant feedback:

“... may not help in ID, the testure and colour of flower remind me of Eranthemum species ... leaves too look like it.” from Dinesh ji.

Eranthemum roseum........Rashida ji, Prajanya ji and Tanay

Is this the plant called 'December Poo' in Tamil nadu? Please clarify

This is not Eranthemum roseum as the bracts are different when compared here, https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/16cd495a9e0cfce/93418138a1b47a54?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=Eranthemum#93418138a1b47a54

https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/834a31171f9ba558/ac39e4e4a45fff4b?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=Eranthemum#ac39e4e4a45fff4b

Please validate.

Muthu ji

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Date: Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 4:24 PM

Subject: [efloraofindia:26881] Acanthaceae for id 290110MK2
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[Pardeshi S.]

Hello all
if
1. Bracts green with white ciliate margin, acuminate at apex.......E.
purpurascens
1. Bracts white with green nerves, mucronate at
apex.................E. roseum

Regards
Satish Pardeshi

On Jan 29, 1:12 pm, Muthu Karthick <nmk....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear all,

> This is not *Eranthemum roseum* as the bracts are different when compared
> here,https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/16...
>
> <https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/16...>https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/83...
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> <https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/83...>Please

> validate.
>
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> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Muthu Karthick <nmk....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > Is this the plant called 'December Poo' in Tamil nadu? Please clarify
>

> > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Muthu Karthick <nmk....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Thank you all, for the clarification.
>

> >> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:04 PM, tanay bose <tanaybos...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>> Dear All,

> >>> I go with Rashida Ji the plant is *Eranthemum roseum.*
> >>> Regards
> >>> Tanay

>
> >>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Parjanya guru <gurooji1...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>>> I agree with Rashida..
> >>>> These are flowers of Eranthemum roseum..
> >>>> .. But please check for the fragrance...
>
> >>>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 11:34 PM, rashida atthar <
> >>>> rashidaatt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> I too believe these are Eranthemum roseum, attenuate leaves seen too.
>
> >>>>> regards,
> >>>>> Rashida.
>

> >>>>> ------------------------------

> >>>>> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:39:58 +0530
> >>>>> Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:30052] Acanthaceae for id 290110MK2

> >>>>> From: jmga...@gmail.com
> >>>>> To: indian...@googlegroups.com
> >>>>> CC: nmk....@gmail.com; dinesh.va...@gmail.com;
> >>>>> vijay.botan...@gmail.com

>
> >>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>
> >>>>> Earlier relevant feedback:
>

> >>>>> *“... may not help in ID, the testure and colour of flower remind me
> >>>>> of Eranthemum species ... leaves too look like it*.” from Dinesh ji.

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> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>>>> From: *Muthu Karthick* <nmk....@gmail.com>
> >>>>> Date: 29 January 2010 16:24
> >>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:26881] Acanthaceae for id 290110MK2
> >>>>> To: indiantreepix <indian...@googlegroups.com>
>
> >>>>> Hi all,
>
> >>>>> This herb is locally distributed more in dry regions of Satyamangalam
> >>>>> RF, at altitude of 450 msl. They grow up to a meter in height.
> >>>>> Kindly help to identify.
> >>>>> Date: 20 Jan 2010
> >>>>> --
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[Dinesh Valke]

... thank you very much for this differentiators, Satish ji.
Regards.
Dinesh

[shrikant ingalhalikar]

I agree with Satish ji, bracts are clearly green and acuminate (not
white and mucronate) hence E. purpurascens. Regards, Shrikant

On Feb 22, 12:46 pm, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ... thank you very much for this differentiators, Satish ji.
> Regards.
> Dinesh
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[Muthu Karthick]

Many thanks for the id and key, Shrikantji and Sathishji.

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[Mayur Nandikar]

Hello Eranthemum roseum R. Br.  Prodromus Florae Novae Hollandiae 1: 477. 1810.

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[Gurcharan Singh]

It was during the resurfacing of this plant that doubts arose in my mind and led to the discovery of old posts of Dinesh ji Shrikant ji, and ultimately an illustrated  key for four closely related species of the genus.

https://mail.google.com/mail/?hl=en&shva=1#inbox/12e950a4586bf3bb

These were earlier feedbacks

Dinesh ji................................. testure (read texture) and colour of flower remind me of Eranthemum species ... leaves too 

                                               look like it.” from Dinesh ji.

Eranthemum roseum..................Rashida ji, Prajanya ji and Tanay

Muthu ji.....................................This is not Eranthemum roseum as the bracts are different when compared here, https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/16cd495a9e0cfce/93418138a1b47a54?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=Eranthemum#93418138a1b47a54

https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/834a31171f9ba558/ac39e4e4a45fff4b?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=Eranthemum#ac39e4e4a45fff4b

Satish ji .......................................................if

1. Bracts green with white ciliate margin, acuminate at apex.......E. purpurascens
1. Bracts white with green nerves, mucronate at  apex.................E. roseum

Shrikant ji.........................................................I agree with Satish ji, bracts are clearly green and acuminate (not

white and mucronate) hence E. purpurascens. Regards, Shrikant

Mayur ji......................................................Eranthemum roseum R. Br....

Looking at the illustrated key of Shrikant ji, with my E. pulchellum added I find E. roseum with obovate mucronate is clearly out of picture. The plant also does not seem to be E. purpurascens because bracts are much narrower, with caudate apex. 

Perhaps we may explore for some other species.

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[Smilax004]

This plant, as Dinesh Ji pointed out, is Eranthemum capense L. of Acanthaceae family. 

Key charecters;

In E. capense liniear (sometimes lanceolate) green bracts, long spike and viscidly gladular hairs. 

In E. roseum the bracts are white with green nerves, elliptic ovate - obovate, bracts are mucronate/apiclate. 

In E. purpurascens, the bracts are ovate-lanceolate long accuminate

Regards,

Giby.