Cryptocoryne for identification 140211MK1

[Muthu Karthick]

Dear all,

Please help to id this Araceae member found in river bank.

Date/Time-	09-02-2011 / 11:00 AM
Location- Place, Altitude, GP	a river in Satyamangalam RF; TN. c 350 msl
Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-	riverine aquatic
Plant Habit-	Herb
Height/Length-	c. 40 cm
Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-	c. 35 X 3 cm
Inflorescence Type/ Size-
Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-
Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-	2 - 3cm across; seeds copious
Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-

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[shrikant ingalhalikar]

Its hard to tell the sp. from pics, its no doubt Cryptocoryne. Pls
enumerate the species from TN flora so that they can be counter
checked. Regards,

On Feb 14, 3:11 pm, Muthu Karthick <nmk....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear all,
> Please help to id this Araceae member found in river bank.
>

>  *Date/Time-*

>
> 09-02-2011 / 11:00 AM
>

> *Location- Place, Altitude, GP*

>
> a river in Satyamangalam RF; TN. c 350 msl
>

> *Habitat-** Garden**/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*
>
> riverine aquatic
>
> *Plant Habit-*
>
> Herb
>
> *Height/Length-*
>
> c. 40 cm
>
> *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*

>
> c. 35 X 3 cm
>

> *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*
>
> *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*
>
> *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- *

> 2 - 3cm across; seeds copious
>

> *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- *
> *
> *

>
> --
> Muthu Karthick, N
> Care Earth Trust
> #15, second main road,
> Thillai ganga nagar,
> Chennai - 600 061
> Mob: 09626833911www.careearthtrust.org
>

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[Muthu Karthick]

The collection site is a river bank that have been always brimmed with water of the perennial river in Nilgiris district at a low altitude. 

So far the following plants in this Genus are reported from Tamil Nadu.

Species	Distribution in TN
Cryptocoryne ciliata (Roxb.) Schott	Western Ghats, Evergreen Forests
Cryptocoryne consobrina Schott	Western Ghats, Evergreen Forests
Cryptocoryne retrospiralis (Roxb.) Kunth.	Plains to Low Altitude, Marsh Localities
Cryptocoryne spiralis (Retz.) Fischer	Plains to Mid Altitude, Marsh Localities

Source: Checklist of Angiosperms in Tamil Nadu   http://tnenvis.nic.in/database_bio_flo.htm

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Resurfacing again for ID

Earlier feedback

Shrikant ji............................Its hard to tell the sp. from pics, its no doubt Cryptocoryne. Pls

enumerate the species from TN flora so that they can be counter checked.

Muthu ji...............................The collection site is a river bank that have been always brimmed with water of the perennial river in Nilgiris district at a low altitude. 

So far the following plants in this Genus are reported from Tamil Nadu.

Species	Distribution in TN
Cryptocoryne ciliata (Roxb.) Schott	Western Ghats, Evergreen Forests
Cryptocoryne consobrina Schott	Western Ghats, Evergreen Forests
Cryptocoryne retrospiralis (Roxb.) Kunth.	Plains to Low Altitude, Marsh Localities
Cryptocoryne spiralis (Retz.) Fischer	Plains to Mid Altitude, Marsh Localities

Source: Checklist of Angiosperms in Tamil Nadu   http://tnenvis.nic.in/database_bio_flo.htm

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[J.M. Garg]

Resurfacing again for ID
Earlier feedback
Shrikant ji............................Its hard to tell the sp. from pics, its no doubt Cryptocoryne. Pls enumerate the species from TN flora so that they can be counter checked.
Muthu ji...............................The collection site is a river bank that have been always brimmed with water of the perennial river in Nilgiris district at a low altitude.
So far the following plants in this Genus are reported from Tamil Nadu.

SpeciesDistribution in TN
Cryptocoryne ciliata (Roxb.) SchottWestern Ghats, Evergreen Forests
Cryptocoryne consobrina SchottWestern Ghats, Evergreen Forests
Cryptocoryne retrospiralis (Roxb.) Kunth.Plains to Low Altitude, Marsh Localities
Cryptocoryne spiralis (Retz.) FischerPlains to Mid Altitude, Marsh Localities

Source: Checklist of Angiosperms in Tamil Nadu   http://tnenvis.nic.in/database_bio_flo.htm

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Muthu Karthick <nmk...@gmail.com>
Date: 14 February 2011 15:41
Subject: [efloraofindia:62716] Cryptocoryne for identification 140211MK1
To: indiantreepix <indian...@googlegroups.com>

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[Muthu Karthick]

Dear all,

I am posting flowers of the same plant found in the locality. Please help me to confirm the species of Cryptocoryne.

Location: Moyar River, Sathyamangalam wls, TN

Alt.: 300 m asl

Date: 22 Nov 2014

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Jan ji.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jan D. Bastmeijer
Date: 4 February 2015 at 06:56
Subject: RE: [efloraofindia:62716] Cryptocoryne for identification 140211MK1
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>, efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: Muthu Karthick <nmk...@gmail.com>

Well, I think the best fit is Cryptocoryne retrospiralis. The pictures, especially the limb of the spathe, are not as sharp as I like to see. I attach some pictures to compare.

It is clearly not C. spiralis and its var’s (we recognize 4 types today), sivadasanii, ciliata,or cognata. So the only choice is between consobrina and retrospiralis.

C. consobrina has a rough, purple spotted limb with a warty margin. And it has a clear collar. The limb less twisted but the leaf size fits well.

C. retrospiralis has a smooth limb with distinct reddish dots on it and no collar.

 

Remark. In cultivation, C. retrospiralis goes dormant in the high water season, only thriving some terete leaves. In the picture you see a four year old plant with clear nodes on the rhizome. Maybe C. consobrina also does (no experience). C. sivadasanii goes dormant in nature but not in continues emergent cultivation. The other ones never go dormant as far as I know.

 

Best regards,

 

Jan D. Bastmeijer

 

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[Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan]

It may be Cryptocoryne retrospiralis (Roxb.) Kunth