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Pankaj Kumar
Oct 6, 2010, 3:54:59 PM10/6/10
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I loved that bee hovering over the flower..... nice timing....
Pankaj
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Shantanu
Oct 6, 2010, 3:59:48 PM10/6/10
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Thanks Pankaj ji...
but as a matter of fact, i focused on the flowers only ...and had
seen that bee after taking the pic.
regards
Shantanu : )
On Oct 7, 12:54 am, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I loved that bee hovering over the flower..... nice timing....
> Pankaj
>
but as a matter of fact, i focused on the flowers only ...and had
seen that bee after taking the pic.
regards
Shantanu : )
On Oct 7, 12:54 am, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I loved that bee hovering over the flower..... nice timing....
> Pankaj
>
Pankaj Kumar
Oct 6, 2010, 4:01:29 PM10/6/10
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No issues...in big cities, such small incidents do happen :p......
but for your own good....
Pankaj
but for your own good....
Pankaj
arjunan
Oct 6, 2010, 11:23:31 PM10/6/10
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is it "Kamrak" in marathi.
thanx & regards
thanx & regards
Rajendra Shinde
Oct 6, 2010, 11:32:58 PM10/6/10
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It is Citrus species. (Rutaceae) Grape Fruit or Papanas in Marathi!
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mani nair
Oct 7, 2010, 12:20:14 AM10/7/10
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Kamrak or Carambola is also known by the name "Star fruit" as when the fruit is cut cross section, gives appearance of a star.
Regards,
Mani.
Dinesh Valke
Oct 7, 2010, 12:44:58 AM10/7/10
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Mani ji ... you may be aware that the plant in this post is not the kamrakh OR karambola, Averrhoa carambola.
Rajendra ji has already pointed it out as some species of Citrus, known as grape fruit (papanas in Marathi).
Shantanu ji may have got a wrong lead to believe it as jambrool (in Bengali) which would be the popular known Malabar plum OR rose apple OR Malay apple, Syzygium jambos.
Regards.
Rajendra ji has already pointed it out as some species of Citrus, known as grape fruit (papanas in Marathi).
Shantanu ji may have got a wrong lead to believe it as jambrool (in Bengali) which would be the popular known Malabar plum OR rose apple OR Malay apple, Syzygium jambos.
Regards.
Gurcharan Singh
Oct 7, 2010, 1:09:24 AM10/7/10
to Dinesh Valke, mani nair, Rajendra Shinde, Shantanu Bhattacharya, efloraofindia, Soma Jha
Yes it is neither star fruit (Chrysophyllum cainito), nor star fruit (Averrhoa carambola), not even Jamrool in Bengali ( Syzygium samarangense (syn. Eugenia javanica)). It is definitely a Citrus sp., and although the wings below the leaf blade are not clearly visible, it appears to be grapefruit (Citrus paradisi) as suggested by Shinde ji.
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Gurcharan Singh
Oct 7, 2010, 1:11:15 AM10/7/10
to Dinesh Valke, mani nair, Rajendra Shinde, Shantanu Bhattacharya, efloraofindia, Soma Jha
Sorry small correction for first name
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Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
Yes it is neither star apple (Chrysophyllum cainito), nor star fruit (Averrhoa carambola), not even Jamrool in Bengali ( Syzygium samarangense (syn. Eugenia javanica)). It is definitely a Citrus sp., and although the wings below the leaf blade are not clearly visible, it appears to be grapefruit (Citrus paradisi) as suggested by Shinde ji.
--
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
mani nair
Oct 7, 2010, 1:22:18 AM10/7/10
to Gurcharan Singh, Dinesh Valke, Rajendra Shinde, Shantanu Bhattacharya, efloraofindia, Soma Jha
The confusion is because of the name Star fruit. So many fruits are called by this name.
Regards,
Mani.
Dr Pankaj Kumar
Oct 7, 2010, 1:28:47 AM10/7/10
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Rutaceae for sure... I didnt notice the leaves earlier. Thanks for the
lead.
Pankaj
On Oct 7, 10:22 am, mani nair <mani.na...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The confusion is because of the name Star fruit. So many fruits are called
> by this name.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mani.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Sorry small correction for first name
>
> > Yes it is neither star apple (Chrysophyllum cainito), nor star fruit (Averrhoa
> > carambola), not even Jamrool in Bengali ( Syzygium samarangense (syn.
> > Eugenia javanica)). It is definitely a Citrus sp., and although the wings
> > below the leaf blade are not clearly visible, it appears to be grapefruit
> > (Citrus paradisi) as suggested by Shinde ji.
>
> > --
> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> > Retired Associate Professor
> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
> >http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
>
> >>> Mani ji ... you may be aware that the plant in this post is not the *
> >>> kamrakh* OR *karambola*, *Averrhoa carambola*.
> >>> Rajendra ji has already pointed it out as some species of *Citrus*,
> >>> known as grape fruit (*papanas* in Marathi).
>
> >>> Shantanu ji may have got a wrong lead to believe it as *jambrool* (in
>
> >>> Regards.
lead.
Pankaj
On Oct 7, 10:22 am, mani nair <mani.na...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The confusion is because of the name Star fruit. So many fruits are called
> by this name.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mani.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Sorry small correction for first name
>
> > Yes it is neither star apple (Chrysophyllum cainito), nor star fruit (Averrhoa
> > carambola), not even Jamrool in Bengali ( Syzygium samarangense (syn.
> > Eugenia javanica)). It is definitely a Citrus sp., and although the wings
> > below the leaf blade are not clearly visible, it appears to be grapefruit
> > (Citrus paradisi) as suggested by Shinde ji.
>
> > --
> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> > Retired Associate Professor
> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
> >http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> > On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> Yes it is neither star fruit (Chrysophyllum cainito), nor star fruit (Averrhoa
> >> carambola), not even Jamrool in Bengali ( Syzygium samarangense (syn.
> >> Eugenia javanica)). It is definitely a Citrus sp., and although the wings
> >> below the leaf blade are not clearly visible, it appears to be grapefruit
> >> (Citrus paradisi) as suggested by Shinde ji.
>
> >> --
> >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> >> Retired Associate Professor
> >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
> >>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> >> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> Yes it is neither star fruit (Chrysophyllum cainito), nor star fruit (Averrhoa
> >> carambola), not even Jamrool in Bengali ( Syzygium samarangense (syn.
> >> Eugenia javanica)). It is definitely a Citrus sp., and although the wings
> >> below the leaf blade are not clearly visible, it appears to be grapefruit
> >> (Citrus paradisi) as suggested by Shinde ji.
>
> >> --
> >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> >> Retired Associate Professor
> >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
> >>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
>
> >>> Mani ji ... you may be aware that the plant in this post is not the *
> >>> kamrakh* OR *karambola*, *Averrhoa carambola*.
> >>> Rajendra ji has already pointed it out as some species of *Citrus*,
> >>> known as grape fruit (*papanas* in Marathi).
>
> >>> Shantanu ji may have got a wrong lead to believe it as *jambrool* (in
> >>> Bengali) which would be the popular known Malabar plum OR rose apple OR
> >>> Malay apple, *Syzygium jambos*.
>
> >>> Regards.
>
> >>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 9:50 AM, mani nair <mani.na...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> Kamrak or Carambola is also known by the name "Star fruit" as when the
> >>>> fruit is cut cross section, gives appearance of a star.
>
> >>>> Regards,
>
> >>>> Mani.
>
> >>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 9:50 AM, mani nair <mani.na...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> Kamrak or Carambola is also known by the name "Star fruit" as when the
> >>>> fruit is cut cross section, gives appearance of a star.
>
> >>>> Regards,
>
> >>>> Mani.
>
Shantanu Bhattacharya
Oct 7, 2010, 2:52:37 AM10/7/10
to mani nair, Gurcharan Singh, Dinesh Valke, Rajendra Shinde, efloraofindia
Yes Mani ji....both the fruits are known by the same name.
Shantanu
Rajendra Shinde
Oct 12, 2010, 7:46:25 AM10/12/10
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This is a good example to emphasize the importance of scientific name. What ever the local name may be - the plant in picture is - Citrus paradisi of Rutaceae! I think all of us would agree on this!
Cheers!
Shinde
Yazdy Palia
Oct 13, 2010, 3:01:58 AM10/13/10
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It looks like either pommelo or the sour variety called Vadagapuli in
Malayalam. Probably grapefruit. I have both and will try to send my
pictures. My regrets for the delay.
Regards
Yazdy.
Malayalam. Probably grapefruit. I have both and will try to send my
pictures. My regrets for the delay.
Regards
Yazdy.
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Shantanu Bhattacharya <shn...@gmail.com> wrote:
Tabish
Oct 13, 2010, 5:07:47 AM10/13/10
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The fruit Shantanu is referring to as Jamrool, is Wax Jambu, Syzygium
samarangense. However, these flowers are not of that plant. To me they
look like of the Pomelo tree, called Chakotra in Hindi (Citrus
maxima). Citrus X paradisi is a cross between Pomelo and Orange.
- Tabish
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samarangense. However, these flowers are not of that plant. To me they
look like of the Pomelo tree, called Chakotra in Hindi (Citrus
maxima). Citrus X paradisi is a cross between Pomelo and Orange.
- Tabish
> 120KViewDownload
Yazdy Palia
Oct 13, 2010, 6:44:35 AM10/13/10
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I partially agree with Tabish Ji because the other citrus fruit which
is sour referred by me in the earlier mail looks almost identical. The
leaves are also almost same. Unfortunately there are no flowers right
now. I think it should flower in a couple of weeks. If it does I will
send the pictures of both.
Regards
Yazdy.
is sour referred by me in the earlier mail looks almost identical. The
leaves are also almost same. Unfortunately there are no flowers right
now. I think it should flower in a couple of weeks. If it does I will
send the pictures of both.
Regards
Yazdy.
J.M. Garg
Oct 31, 2010, 9:12:55 AM10/31/10
to efloraofindia, Rajendra Shinde, Tabish, Shantanu Bhattacharya, Yazdy Palia, Gurcharan Singh
Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl.
Some earlier relevant feedback:
“Yes it is neither star fruit (Chrysophyllum cainito), nor star fruit (Averrhoa carambola), not even Jamrool in Bengali ( Syzygium samarangense (syn. Eugenia javanica)). It is definitely a Citrus sp., and although the wings below the leaf blade are not clearly visible, it appears to be grapefruit (Citrus paradisi) as suggested by Shinde ji.
--
Dr. Gurcharan Singh”
“This is a good example to emphasize the importance of scientific name. What ever the local name may be - the plant in picture is - Citrus paradisi of Rutaceae! I think all of us would agree on this!
Cheers!
Shinde”
“The fruit Shantanu is referring to as Jamrool, is Wax Jambu, Syzygium
samarangense. However, these flowers are not of that plant. To me they
look like of the Pomelo tree, called Chakotra in Hindi (Citrus
maxima). Citrus X paradisi is a cross between Pomelo and Orange.
- Tabish”
"I partially agree with Tabish Ji because the other citrus fruit which
is sour referred by me in the earlier mail looks almost identical. The
leaves are also almost same. Unfortunately there are no flowers right
now. I think it should flower in a couple of weeks. If it does I will
send the pictures of both.
Regards
Yazdy."
is sour referred by me in the earlier mail looks almost identical. The
leaves are also almost same. Unfortunately there are no flowers right
now. I think it should flower in a couple of weeks. If it does I will
send the pictures of both.
Regards
Yazdy."
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Yazdy Palia
Nov 1, 2010, 1:13:56 AM11/1/10
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Dear Friends,
This definitely looks like Pomelow to me (Citrus Grandis). The picture
of the flowers show pollinated flowers having black spot in the
centre, unopened buds. Leaves would have helped still furhter.
Am attaching my pictures today. Some time back there was a discussion
about leaves with winged petioles. Am sending the pictures of the
leaves taken from the same cluster, most of them are having winged
petioles and one of them is without. You will also observe that the
leaves at the bottom of the cluster and at the tips have smaller
winged petioles and those in the centre are large.
Regards
Yazdy.
This definitely looks like Pomelow to me (Citrus Grandis). The picture
of the flowers show pollinated flowers having black spot in the
centre, unopened buds. Leaves would have helped still furhter.
Am attaching my pictures today. Some time back there was a discussion
about leaves with winged petioles. Am sending the pictures of the
leaves taken from the same cluster, most of them are having winged
petioles and one of them is without. You will also observe that the
leaves at the bottom of the cluster and at the tips have smaller
winged petioles and those in the centre are large.
Regards
Yazdy.
Shantanu Bhattacharya
Nov 1, 2010, 9:34:14 AM11/1/10
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Hi
The pic of flowers that i hv posted few weeks back are called
Jaam-rool in Bengali : )
The pic of flowers that i hv posted few weeks back are called
Jaam-rool in Bengali : )
Yazdy Palia
Nov 1, 2010, 9:56:44 AM11/1/10
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Dear Shantanu Bhattacharya Ji,
Enclosing the link where Jamrul is shown as rose apple, also enclosing
wikipedia link showing the flowers of Rose apple.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syzygium_jambos
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multilingual_list_of_edible_plants_used_in_Indian_cuisine#Fruits
There seems to be some mistake, the picture of the flowers submitted
by you is either Pomelow or the sour vaiety of citrus which is also
almost as big.
Regards
Yazdy.
Enclosing the link where Jamrul is shown as rose apple, also enclosing
wikipedia link showing the flowers of Rose apple.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syzygium_jambos
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multilingual_list_of_edible_plants_used_in_Indian_cuisine#Fruits
There seems to be some mistake, the picture of the flowers submitted
by you is either Pomelow or the sour vaiety of citrus which is also
almost as big.
Regards
Yazdy.
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