Re: Rosaceae Week: Cotoneaster microphyllus_RKC01_04102011

[Ritesh Kumar Choudhary]

Dear all,

Cotoneaster microphyllus Wall. ex Lindl. for you.

Loc.: On way to Churdhar, Himachal Pradesh (ca 1500m)

Date: 10th August, 2010.

Regards,
Ritesh.

[Gurcharan Singh]

Nice series of Photographs Ritesh ji

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[Ritesh Choudhary]

Thank you sir!

Regards,
Ritesh.

[Neha Singh]

Good Pics indeed !

Regards
Neha

[Prashant awale]

Ritesh ji, Nice series of pics. Thanks for sharing.
Regards
Prashant

[chrischa...@btinternet.com]

I am starting to look at the images of Cotoneaster on this site.  My expectation is that a majority will be misidentified.  I am planning to send images on a CD to Jeanette Fryer (author with the late Bertil Hylmo) the most knowledgeable person on this genus.  She does not operate by e-mail.  She is busy and it will surely take weeks, if not months before she can devote the time but it will be worth the wait.  Please note that Fryer states that Klotz included within C.microphyllus a number of taxa from a wide area ranging from the Western Himalaya, Kumaon to eastern Tibet and the provinces of Yunnan and Sichuan but C.microphyllus in its strictest sense has only been recorded from Nepal!   More research is desperately needed......

PLEASE NOTE THAT TWO OF THE THREE IMAGES photographed by Ritesh are of a Lonicera not Cotoneaster - the 3rd & 5th (4.jpg and 1jpg.).  The glossy, succulent berries are clearly nothing like Cotoneaster fruits.  I shall name this Lonicera in due course.

[chrischa...@btinternet.com]

I am beginning a check on Cotoneasters posted on this site. 

Please note the 3rd and 5th images (4jpg & 1 jpg) are of a Lonicera which glossy, fleshy berries which clearly do not belong to a Cotoneaster.

 Unfortunately, I suspect a majority are misidentified.  Will be sending available images to Jeanette Fryer (on a CD she does not use e-mail).  She was co-author with the late Bertil Hylmo of 'Cotoneasters' (2009) - the most knowledgeable person on the genus.  She is always busy with other identification tasks so will certainly take weeks perhaps months before we hear but worth the wait.

 

Please note her comments: "Klotz included within C.microphyllus a number of taxa from a wide area ranging from W.Himalaya, Kumaon, through to eastern Tibet and the provinces of Yunnan & Sichuan but in its strictest sense C.microphyllus has only been recorded from Nepal.  More research is desperately needed."

 

I hope her determinations (accurate identifications) will encourage members to take a greater interest in this neglected genus, photographing more species.   There is every possibility of locating species new to science within this genus.

 

It makes sense, when those with specialist knowledge are available to name material to take full advantage.  The present situation with the naming of Cotoneaters in Indian herbaria is in need of improvement.  Many specimens are very old and/or in poor condition, of a scrappy nature in the first place.

On Tuesday, October 4, 2011 at 3:05:12 AM UTC+1, Ritesh Kumar Choudhary wrote:

[Anil Thakur]

Yes, Garg ji.
Photographs no 1 & 4 are of Lonicera..I had posted some Lonicera in efi and also sent a mail to the authors of review of Lonicera and Devendaea in India. But he did not respond. I do not know why people do so.

[Anil Thakur]

[Anil Thakur]

[Anil Thakur]

Respected Chadwell ji
I shall also be posting my Cotoneaster in efi, so that they get properly identified.

I have some doubts on the identity of Osbeckia species of India posted at efi and FoI. Can you spare some time to have a look?

Regards

[Anil Thakur]

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Chadwell ji

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[C CHADWELL]

Dear Anil

I have yet prepared the CD with images of Himalayan Cotoneasters to post to Jeanette, so if you

have any other images (with location and altitude as usual) do send if you can, so can be included. 

Always happy to take a quick look at images and then more in depth, if required and when time is

available.

Best Wishes,

Chris Chadwell

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[J.M. Garg]

I feel these images (except 3rd & 5th- due to different leaf venation and shiny nature of leave) are more closer to images and discussions at Cotoneaster thymifolius hort. ex Baker 

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[Nidhan Singh]

To me the images 3rd (4.jpg) and 5th (1.jpg) appear more towards Ribes than Cotoneaster..

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[Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur]

Dr. Nidhan Singh ji, are you able to see the photographs ?

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[J.M. Garg]

Lonicera.

[J.M. Garg]

I think Lonicera.

On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 at 20:48, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur <aniltha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Not Ribes, Dr. Nidhan ji. Streaks are present on the fruits of Ribes. Leaves are also different.

Regards

[Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur]

Garg ji, I also consider it as Lonicera sp.

Where was this photograph clicked ?

Regards 

[Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur]

Oh, got it.

It is from Churdhar (H.P.)

[Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur]

Mixed up photographs of Lonicera are of L. angustifolia var. myrtillus as per Flora of Sirmaur.

Regards

[Nidhan Singh]

Yes, thanks for correcting Anil Ji..

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Anil ji 

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[Ritesh Kumar Choudhary]

Thanks Anil Ji.

Regards,

Ritesh