Chrozophora plicata from Delhi

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Gurcharan Singh

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Apr 20, 2011, 12:39:17 PM4/20/11
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Chrozophora plicata (Vahl) A. Juss. ex Spreng.,  Syst. veg. 3:850. 1826

syn: Croton plicatus Vahl; Chrozophora prostrata Dalzell & Gibson

Stellate-wooly prostrate herb with several branches; leaves nearly as long as broad, upper surface folded (plicate); flowers unisexual; stamens 15 in two whorls, petals pink; capsules stellate wooly, without scales.
Photographed from Vikas Puri Delhi, growing in waste lands.
   
Common name: Giradol

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Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
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Mahadeswara

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Apr 20, 2011, 11:35:12 PM4/20/11
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Beautiful photographs as usual. The plant reminds me of Prof. BGL
Swamy who used to bring this plant, Bacopa munneri, Ammania buccifera
etc for the M.Sc examinations in 70,s

On Apr 20, 9:39 pm, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Chrozophora plicata (Vahl) A. Juss. ex Spreng.,  Syst. veg. 3:850. 1826
> syn: *Croton plicatus* Vahl; *Chrozophora* *prostrata* Dalzell & Gibson
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> Stellate-wooly prostrate herb with several branches; leaves nearly as long
> as broad, upper surface folded (plicate); flowers unisexual; stamens 15 in
> two whorls, petals pink; capsules stellate wooly, without scales.
> Photographed from Vikas Puri Delhi, growing in waste lands.
>
> Common name: Giradol
>
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> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
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Gurcharan Singh

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Apr 21, 2011, 5:49:21 AM4/21/11
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Thanks Mahadeswara ji


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Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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J.M. Garg

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Nov 17, 2013, 2:32:16 AM11/17/13
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Chrozophora rottleri as per another thread.
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Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 17, 2013, 5:57:13 AM11/17/13
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Garg ji
This needs to be resolved.
If Chrozophora plicata (Vahl) A. Juss., 1826 (basionym Croton plicatus Vahl, 1790) and C. rottleri (Geiseler) A. Juss., 1826 (based on Croton rottleri Geiseler, 1807) are synonyms, the former should be the correct name as it is based in earlier basionym.

If two are distinct species as listed on the Plant List, we have to know the differences to choose our plants from North India and Western Ghats.

I hope Tapas ji and Balakrishnan ji can throw better light on this based on their treatment of Indian Euphorbiaceae.
   

Dr. Gurcharan Singh
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SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089

Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 17, 2013, 7:20:44 AM11/17/13
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Thanks a lot Balakrishnan ji for clarification


based on Reply from Balakrishnan ji 
"The real Chrozophora plicata (Vahl) A.Juss. ex Spreng. does not occur in India. It is confined to Africa and Middle East. What is given  as C. plicata in Indian floras are now known as Chrozophora rottleri (Geisl.) A.Juss. ex Spreng.
N.P.Balakrishnan, 17 Nov. 2013"



Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089


On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Nambiyath Balakrishnan <npba...@gmail.com> wrote:
The real Chrozophora plicata (Vahl) A.Juss. ex Spreng. does not occur in India. It is confined to Africa and Middle East. What is given  as C. plicata in Indian floras are now known as Chrozophora rottleri (Geisl.) A.Juss. ex Spreng.
N.P.Balakrishnan, 17 Nov. 2013

Tapas Chakrabarty

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Nov 17, 2013, 9:30:31 AM11/17/13
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1a.     Ovary and fruits lepidote, never stellate-pubescent                           2

  b.     Ovary and fruits stellate-pubescent, never lepidote                           3

2a.     Leaves not much longer than broad; ripe carpels reddish purple                                                                            1. C. hierosolymitana

  b.     Leaves twice as long as broad; ripe carpels bluish purple                                                                                           2. C. oblongifolia

3a.     Leaves both radical and cauline, eglandular at base; stigmas orange; fruits grey or black, non-tinctorial when wetted                3. C. prostrata

  b.     Leaves cauline only, 2-glandular at base; stigmas red; fruits purple, tinctorial when wetted                                           4. C. rottleri


Tapas.



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Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 17, 2013, 9:44:14 AM11/17/13
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Thanks Tapas ji for the key

Dr. Gurcharan Singh
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SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089


Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 1, 2021, 10:57:46 AM9/1/21
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Forwarding for ID
Distributed as  Chrozophora rottleri
I strongly feel that it is C. plicata, whether we follow Flora of Malesia
or follow key given by Tapas ji
Plants are prostrate (not erect), smaller (less than 3 cm, not larger), plicate , dark green (not light green), stigma orange (not red), fruit with spreading hairs (not flat)
Group discussion at

Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 1, 2021, 10:58:45 AM9/1/21
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Forwarding for ID
Distributed as  Chrozophora rottleri
I strongly feel that it is C. plicata, whether we follow Flora of Malesia
or follow key given by Tapas ji
Plants are prostrate (not erect), smaller (less than 3 cm, not larger), plicate , dark green (not light green), stigma orange (not red), fruit with spreading hairs (not flat)
Group discussion at

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Tapas Chakrabarty

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Sep 1, 2021, 3:50:40 PM9/1/21
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Yes, Chrozophora plicata.

J.M. Garg

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Sep 5, 2021, 4:31:45 AM9/5/21
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I think there is some confusion here.

Flora Malesian gives the following difference (It also does not have Chrozophora plicata (Vahl) A.Juss. ex Spreng. (like India as per Balakrishnan ji)):
Chrozophora plicata (Vahl) A.Juss. ex Spreng. is often confused with C. rottleri, because one of the first leads in Prain’s key (1918) asks for the length of the inflorescence relative to the surrounding leaves. The inflorescence should be shorter than the leaves in C. plicata and longer in C. rottleri. However, they are only longer in C. rottleri when the inflorescences are old and have shed their seeds. The best character to separate both species is in the stellate hairs on the ovary/fruit, these hairs are flat, 2-dimensional, almost lepidote in C. rottleri (lacking the patent hairs), and normal, 3-dimensional in C. plicata. Furthermore, the leaf blades in C. plicata are usually smaller (less than 3 cm long) and of a much darker green (at least when dry).
It also gives Staminate flowers 4–6 mm in diam., yellow; calyx white, united part c. 1 mm high, lobes 3.2–4 by c. 1.2 mm; petals 3.7–3.8 by 1.5–1.6 mm; androphore 3.3–3.8 mm long, basal 1.2–1.3 mm without filaments; filaments 0.3–0.8 mm long; anthers 0.9–1.3 by c. 0.7 mm, yellow. 

I can not see the nature of hairs from the low res. image, as per differences above. However, the stigma is yellow here as given for C.rottelri in Flora Malenesia.

Earlier Balakrishnan ji has stated:
"The real Chrozophora plicata (Vahl) A.Juss. ex Spreng. does not occur in India. It is confined to Africa and the Middle East. What is given as C. plicata in Indian floras are now known as Chrozophora rottleri (Geisl.) A.Juss. ex Spreng.
N.P.Balakrishnan, 17 Nov. 2013"



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J.M. Garg

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Sep 5, 2021, 4:51:44 AM9/5/21
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I see stigma to be yellow only as per other observations at C.rottleri
I find that as per keys provided by Tapas ji in this post, C.prostrata is now given as syn. of Chrozophora plicata (Vahl) A.Juss. ex Spreng. as per WCSP. So if this is correct, C.prostrata is now given as syn. of Chrozophora plicata (Vahl) A.Juss. ex Spreng. is very much available in India and Singh ji plant may very well be this one. 

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