OT: Just Heard the Queen Mum On The Radio . . .
neonprose
I just heard a news feed snippet of the Queen
welcoming the Obamas to the palace.
It was adorable, she sounds great.
The Obamas are going to spend two nights at the
Palace, sleeping in the same suite in which William
and Kate spent their wedding night.
The Queen took the Obamas on a tour of the Palace
portrait gallery pointing out paintings of Lincoln and
other American figures Hmmm, I wonder if some of
those portraits found their way to England after the
British took Washington.
<http://i.huffpost.com/gen/281352/thumbs/r-OBAMA-ENGLAND-TRIP-
large570.jpg>
<http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/26251/
slide_26251_282531_huge.jpg>
Meanwhile, back at the Insane Assylum on the Hill,
the Right Wing Wack Jobs are quibbling about sending
federal aid to Joplin Missouri.
CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?
I got tears in my eyes when I heard a tape of a young
mother who rode out the 6-mile wide tornado in a bath
tub with her 18 month old son. She was heard sobbing with fear but
she and her son sang songs, counted,
played games but in the background you could hear
the immense roar of the storm.
The apartment building in which they were living
collapsed but thanks to the bathtub they found
themselves at the top of a mountain of lumber.
-------------------- my note -------------------------------
I cannot understand why building codes in the
areas that experience these horrible tornadoes
don't MANDATE storm cellars be built with each
new building permit.
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My Calvinist ancestors in Iowa took to the storm
cellars (I've got a parlor organ out in the storage
room that was sent on a sailing ship around the
Horn to Oregon).
I'm listening to a guy on the radio who is reporting
from Arkansas that the worst is coming tonight.
Ironically, I was listening to Coast to Coast (well,
Webb listens to Coast to Coast) which featured
two scientists who made a plea for more . . .
Natural Philosophers.
I was cheered to hear that a conference will be
convened to establish a National Academy of
Natural Philosophy.
It's all too obvious to me that the Strat trashing
of Bacon -- which goes on even as I write -- is the
chief cause of environmental collapse.
We had William Shappere forced on us while Bacon,
a natural philosopher whose works created a bevy
of philosophers on the Continent -- Kant dedicated
the First Critique to Bacon -- while the Strats, even
today, are still asserting that Bacon was a "pedophile"
and "pederast" on Bacon's Wikipedia page.
In fact Bacon was not only the first natural philo-
sopher the English produced after Occam, he was
also a SHAMELESS CUCKHOLD, he slept with other
mens' wives and essentially engineered his own
"fall" by fostering a beautiful daughter on Coke's
wife.
Well, Coke's wife was Bacon's first cousin, at least
Bacon kept it in the family.
Strats have overseen the destruction of the
environment of this planet. They continue to
promote an illiterate broker as the author of
WORKS OF NATURAL HISTORY
meaning the Shakespeare plays while at the
same time doing irreversible damage to the
reputation of the Natural Philosopher who left
us with nineteen volumes of works.
Read Bacon's Of Plantations. Did you know that
Bacon advocated creating FOREST RESERVES in
all the British Colonies?
In this instance, since it posed no threat to the
vulnerable William Shappere, the British did, in
fact, set aside Forest Reserves in all their colonies.
The colonial reserves hire Foresters who still
manage the forests.
In Of Plantations, Bacon faces up to the fact that
England was then dangerously overpopulated, it
had little in the way of natural resources so he
advocated colonization.
That is not to say that Bacon is responsible in any
way for the genocide committed by the British. In
Of Plantations Bacon writes that the English should
"settle in the waste," meaning the forested areas,
and leave the indigenous population to their cultivated
lands.
This same theme mysteriously arises in the work
of the incomparable genius William Shappere when
in The Tempest Prospero is struggling with what
he should do with his "indigenous person," Caliban.
Melanie Sands
you know. She died 9 years ago:
Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon (4 August 1900 – 30 March 2002)
:-)
On 25 Mai, 00:28, neonprose <neonpr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ______________________________________________
>
> I just heard a news feed snippet of the Queen
> welcoming the Obamas to the palace.
>
> It was adorable, she sounds great.
Actually, the BBC showed a documentary of her about a year or
two ago, her going out with her short-legged doggies
(does she really call them and say, "come on, walkies"?
or was that just Helen Mirren?)
and I suddenly felt this ridiculous feeling of LOVE for
her, my Queen, the mother of me and my fellow Brits.
>
> The Obamas are going to spend two nights at the
> Palace, sleeping in the same suite in which William
> and Kate spent their wedding night.
Hopefully not ä quattre with Kate and William. That
would be taking the Brit-US friendship a wee bit too
far.
>
> The Queen took the Obamas on a tour of the Palace
> portrait gallery pointing out paintings of Lincoln and
> other American figures Hmmm, I wonder if some of
> those portraits found their way to England after the
> British took Washington.
>
> <http://i.huffpost.com/gen/281352/thumbs/r-OBAMA-ENGLAND-TRIP-
> large570.jpg>
>
> <http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/26251/
> slide_26251_282531_huge.jpg>
Uhm, Wasn't Abe Lincoln alive around 1850? Did the
British march on Washington and take it in 1850?
I thought that the Gone-With-The-Wind-War was between
the northern US States and the southern ones like
Atlanta - didn't know the Brits were involved in that,
too. We do get around, don't we.
>
> Meanwhile, back at the Insane Assylum on the Hill,
> the Right Wing Wack Jobs are quibbling about sending
> federal aid to Joplin Missouri.
>
> CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?
>
> I got tears in my eyes when I heard a tape of a young
> mother who rode out the 6-mile wide tornado in a bath
> tub with her 18 month old son. She was heard sobbing with fear but
> she and her son sang songs, counted,
> played games but in the background you could hear
> the immense roar of the storm.
>
> The apartment building in which they were living
> collapsed but thanks to the bathtub they found
> themselves at the top of a mountain of lumber.
It wouold be funny if it weren't so scary. That's
the advantage of luxury bathtubs that have four,
preferably gilt clawed, feet. My tub is welded or
rather cemented into the wall.
>
> -------------------- my note -------------------------------
> I cannot understand why building codes in the
> areas that experience these horrible tornadoes
> don't MANDATE storm cellars be built with each
> new building permit.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
In Switzerland, where we never have tornadoes, you can't
build a house without a cellar.
>
> My Calvinist ancestors in Iowa took to the storm
> cellars (I've got a parlor organ out in the storage
> room that was sent on a sailing ship around the
> Horn to Oregon).
That's appropriate - organ - horn...
>
> I'm listening to a guy on the radio who is reporting
> from Arkansas that the worst is coming tonight.
Well, this guy DID say the world would end....
There was this other guy who said Rome would be$
destroyed on the 4. May 2011 or something, by an
earthquake. People were starting to evacuate.
Then the earthquake happened - but on the east coast
of Spain, the worst quake in 50 years...
>
> Ironically, I was listening to Coast to Coast (well,
> Webb listens to Coast to Coast) which featured
> two scientists who made a plea for more . . .
>
> Natural Philosophers.
>
> I was cheered to hear that a conference will be
> convened to establish a National Academy of
> Natural Philosophy.
>
> It's all too obvious to me that the Strat trashing
> of Bacon -- which goes on even as I write -- is the
> chief cause of environmental collapse.
Well, the chief causes of environmental collapse is
non-regrowable (is that a word?!!) energy sources,
not recycling our trash, covering every little blade
of grass with concrete and asphalt, atomic energy and
weapons (Why oh why could the Fukushima meltdown not
have happened in shitty places like Iran, Syria?) and
our WASTE. We waste so much. And consume too much. And
do too little. Which is why, for example, I am FAT.
>
> We had William Shappere forced on us while Bacon,
> a natural philosopher whose works created a bevy
> of philosophers on the Continent -- Kant dedicated
> the First Critique to Bacon -- while the Strats, even
> today, are still asserting that Bacon was a "pedophile"
> and "pederast" on Bacon's Wikipedia page.
>
> In fact Bacon was not only the first natural philo-
> sopher the English produced after Occam, he was
> also a SHAMELESS CUCKHOLD, he slept with other
> mens' wives and essentially engineered his own
> "fall" by fostering a beautiful daughter on Coke's
> wife.
Is cuckold the right term? Cuckold would be the
husband. So if he slept with other men's wives,
he was surely more of a sexual poacher.
>
> Well, Coke's wife was Bacon's first cousin, at least
> Bacon kept it in the family.
Euwhh.
But while Bacon philosophized, Shakespeare wrote
plays. Entertainment.
>
> Strats have overseen the destruction of the
> environment of this planet. They continue to
> promote an illiterate broker as the author of
>
> WORKS OF NATURAL HISTORY
>
> meaning the Shakespeare plays while at the
> same time doing irreversible damage to the
> reputation of the Natural Philosopher who left
> us with nineteen volumes of works.
>
> Read Bacon's Of Plantations. Did you know that
> Bacon advocated creating FOREST RESERVES in
> all the British Colonies?
Well, Shakespeare was interested in the land as well -
he bought up all these fields and orchards...
>
> In this instance, since it posed no threat to the
> vulnerable William Shappere, the British did, in
> fact, set aside Forest Reserves in all their colonies.
> The colonial reserves hire Foresters who still
> manage the forests.
>
> In Of Plantations, Bacon faces up to the fact that
> England was then dangerously overpopulated, it
> had little in the way of natural resources so he
> advocated colonization.
>
> That is not to say that Bacon is responsible in any
> way for the genocide committed by the British. In
> Of Plantations Bacon writes that the English should
> "settle in the waste," meaning the forested areas,
> and leave the indigenous population to their cultivated
> lands.
>
> This same theme mysteriously arises in the work
> of the incomparable genius William Shappere when
> in The Tempest Prospero is struggling with what
> he should do with his "indigenous person," Caliban.
I think it has always been tempting to everyone from
every country to escape from the overpopulated surroundings
and to enter into virgin land, and to have a large amount
of space - cheaper than it would be at home - to create
for oneself a new paradise.
That's why people went to Australia for example. Swiss
farmers emigrated to Canada, selling their tiny farms
in Switzerland and getting, in Canada, farms that were
five times as large - for the same money - with friendlier
neighbours to boot.
Melanie
book...@yahoo.com
Let's all compare bathtubs! What bathtub did Shakespeare have? I
wonder if it shows up in his works in some way.
Stratman: yes
Marlowe: maybe
Oxford: maybe
Bacon: maybe
------------------
Search "bath":
[This one alludes to a bath in the Thames, but is more about washing
clothes. I seem to remember Benjamin Franklin would swim in the
Thames. Did Shakespeare know how to swim? Did any but Stratman and
Marlowe have his clothes washed in Datchet-lane? I heard that the
wealthy would return clothes overseas to the tailor for washing.]
The Merry Wives of Windsor
Act 3, Scene 5
FALSTAFF Nay, you shall hear, Master Brook, what I have
suffered to bring this woman to evil for your good.
Being thus crammed in the basket, a couple of Ford's
knaves, his hinds, were called forth by their
mistress to carry me in the name of foul clothes to
Datchet-lane: they took me on their shoulders; met
the jealous knave their master in the door, who
asked them once or twice what they had in their
basket: I quaked for fear, lest the lunatic knave
would have searched it; but fate, ordaining he
should be a cuckold, held his hand. Well: on went he
for a search, and away went I for foul clothes. But
mark the sequel, Master Brook: I suffered the pangs
of three several deaths; first, an intolerable
fright, to be detected with a jealous rotten
bell-wether; next, to be compassed, like a good
bilbo, in the circumference of a peck, hilt to
point, heel to head; and then, to be stopped in,
like a strong distillation, with stinking clothes
that fretted in their own grease: think of that,--a
man of my kidney,--think of that,--that am as subject
to heat as butter; a man of continual dissolution
and thaw: it was a miracle to scape suffocation.
And in the height of this bath, when I was more than
half stewed in grease, like a Dutch dish, to be
thrown into the Thames, and cooled, glowing hot,
in that surge, like a horse-shoe; think of
that,--hissing hot,--think of that, Master Brook.
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["sore labour's bath" seems associated with physical work. Not sure
any but Stratman did that.]
Macbeth
Act 2, Scene 2
MACBETH Methought I heard a voice cry 'Sleep no more!
Macbeth does murder sleep', the innocent sleep,
Sleep that knits up the ravell'd sleeve of care,
The death of each day's life, sore labour's bath,
Balm of hurt minds, great nature's second course,
Chief nourisher in life's feast
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["a gentle bath" with balms, no less. Something that contrasts with
the condition of an army general, maybe. I see Oxford at his bath
here.]
Coriolanus
Act 1, Scene 6
COMINIUS Though I could wish
You were conducted to a gentle bath
And balms applied to, you, yet dare I never
Deny your asking: take your choice of those
That best can aid your action.
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[This "seething bath" probably refers to the hot springs at Bath,
where STDs were cured?]
Sonnets
Sonnet 153
CLIII.
a seething bath, which yet men prove
Against strange maladies a sovereign cure.
----------------
[Again we have the "bath and healthful remedy", probably referring to
Bath.]
Sonnet 154
CLIV.
she quenched in a cool well by,
Which from Love's fire took heat perpetual,
Growing a bath and healthful remedy
For men diseased; but I, my mistress' thrall,
Came there for cure, and this by that I prove,
Love's fire heats water, water cools not love.
TomFoster
> You heard the Queen MUM on the radio? That's quite amazing,
> you know. She died 9 years ago:
>
She's been told. But nothing seems to register with Elizabeth.
>
> Is cuckold the right term? Cuckold would be the
> husband. So if he slept with other men's wives,
> he was surely more of a sexual poacher.
>
She's been told that too. But nothing seems to register with
Elizabeth.
Tom
John W Kennedy
On 2011-05-25 06:58:24 -0400, Melanie Sands said:
Uhm, Wasn't Abe Lincoln alive around 1850? Did the
British march on Washington and take it in 1850?
I thought that the Gone-With-The-Wind-War was between
the northern US States and the southern ones like
Atlanta - didn't know the Brits were involved in that,
too. We do get around, don't we.
Atlanta is a city. (Noteworthy as the world's first major city based on a railroad instead of a river.) Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee, Arkansas, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas, and Florida were the CSA states. (There were also Confederate governments proclaimed in Kentucky and Missouri, but they were ineffectual.) Parts of Virginia seceded to form the new state of West Virginia, which remained loyal.
Actually, keeping the UK out of the war was Lincoln's chief diplomatic challenge. British manufacturers needed Southern cotton, some Britons identified with the "aristocratic" southern planters (and there were a few irredentists who wanted to take back the "colonies"), several gaffes were made by the US in the early part of the war (in particular, the Trent affair and Lincoln's mistaken reference to "blockading" the South when he should have "closed the ports"), and the US had taken offense that British shipmakers were all but openly building warships for the CSA. Fortunately, the American diplomatic corps succeeded in its work in London, and the traditional British revulsion toward slavery, backed by the British proletariat, prevailed.
But there is still the Dirty Little Secret that many influential Britons regarded Lincoln as a half-civilized yokel until the news of Good Friday, 1865, crossed the Atlantic. Don't believe me? See <URL:http://historygallery.com/prints/PunchLincoln/punchLincoln.htm> (but be sure to go on to the last).
--
John W Kennedy
"...when you're trying to build a house of cards, the last thing you should do is blow hard and wave your hands like a madman."
-- Rupert Goodwins
neonprose
> On Wed, 25 May 2011 03:58:24 -0700 (PDT), Melanie Sands
>
>
>
>
>
> <Melanie_Sa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >You heard the Queen MUM on the radio? That's quite amazing,
> >you know. She died 9 years ago:
>
> >Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon (4 August 1900 – 30 March 2002)
>
> >:-)
>
> >On 25 Mai, 00:28, neonprose <neonpr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> ______________________________________________
>
> >> I just heard a news feed snippet of the Queen
> >> welcoming the Obamas to the palace.
>
> >> It was adorable, she sounds great.
>
> >Actually, the BBC showed a documentary of her about a year or
> >two ago, her going out with her short-legged doggies
> >(does she really call them and say, "come on, walkies"?
She does, in fact say "let's go walkies." It's so
cute.
> >or was that just Helen Mirren?)
I'm pretty sure it was the Queen.
>
> >and I suddenly felt this ridiculous feeling of LOVE for
> >her, my Queen, the mother of me and my fellow Brits.
Awww, that's sweet.
>
> >> The Obamas are going to spend two nights at the
> >> Palace, sleeping in the same suite in which William
> >> and Kate spent their wedding night.
>
> >Hopefully not ä quattre with Kate and William.
I assume if that was the arrangement they'd
simply spend the night chatting each other up.
The Obamas are like birds, they've mated for life.
> That
> >would be taking the Brit-US friendship a wee bit too
> >far.
I fear you have naughty little pictures in your
mind, Melanie.
> >> The Queen took the Obamas on a tour of the Palace
> >> portrait gallery pointing out paintings of Lincoln and
> >> other American figures Hmmm, I wonder if some of
> >> those portraits found their way to England after the
> >> British took Washington.
>
> >> <http://i.huffpost.com/gen/281352/thumbs/r-OBAMA-ENGLAND-TRIP-
> >> large570.jpg>
>
> >> <http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/26251/
> >> slide_26251_282531_huge.jpg>
>
> >Uhm, Wasn't Abe Lincoln alive around 1850? Did the
> >British march on Washington and take it in 1850?
On August 24, 1814, a British force occupied Washington, D.C. and set
fire to many public buildings following the American defeat at the
Battle of Blandenberg.
Lincoln was born in 1809.
Two of my ancestors, a direct antecedent
and and his younger brother, marched off to
free the slaves. The Calvinist churches in
New England supplied most of the recruits
'cause we Calvinists hate racism more than
anything else.
If you ever get to the campus of Harvard
University, got to "Mem" and see the brass
plaques of all the Harvard fallen, students who
left Harvard to fight the Confederacy. We
got to the Mem at dusk, it was kind of an
overwhelming experience, I stood there
and wept.
> that
would have been around
> >I thought that the Gone-With-The-Wind-War was between
> >the northern US States and the southern ones like
> >Atlanta - didn't know the Brits were involved in that,
> >too. We do get around, don't we.
The North explained to the British, who were
supplying the South with ships, that if the
Brits didn't stop it, the North would consider
it an Act of War.
I'm citing Wikipedia but what I found most interesting is that it was
the British public !!which stopped the British government's
involvement in the US Civil War.
The public had forced the government to stop the exploitation of
slaves in its own colonies by 1830 and didn't want to support another
state which engaged in slavery.
Some times you just have to love the Brits.
> >> Meanwhile, back at the Insane Assylum on the Hill,
> >> the Right Wing Wack Jobs are quibbling about sending
> >> federal aid to Joplin Missouri.
>
> >> CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?
>
> >> I got tears in my eyes when I heard a tape of a young
> >> mother who rode out the 6-mile wide tornado in a bath
> >> tub with her 18 month old son. She was heard sobbing with fear but
> >> she and her son sang songs, counted,
> >> played games but in the background you could hear
> >> the immense roar of the storm.
>
> >> The apartment building in which they were living
> >> collapsed but thanks to the bathtub they found
> >> themselves at the top of a mountain of lumber.
>
> >It wouold be funny if it weren't so scary. That's
> >the advantage of luxury bathtubs that have four,
> >preferably gilt clawed, feet. My tub is welded or
> >rather cemented into the wall.
I have a claw foot tub, it's not a replica,
it's authentic 19th century. The former
owners picked it up at a salvage place.
> Let's all compare bathtubs! What bathtub did Shakespeare have? I
> wonder if it shows up in his works in some way.
I don't think Elizabethans bathed. Their doublets seemed to have
openings at the
armpits and of course they had codpieces
with little strings they would tie up.
Of course the pheromone buildup would be
intense, even overwhelming, no wonder they
couldn't stop having sex.
> Stratman: yes
> Marlowe: maybe
> Oxford: maybe
> Bacon: maybe
> ------------------
>
> Search "bath":
>
> [This one alludes to a bath in the Thames, but is more about washing
> clothes. I seem to remember Benjamin Franklin would swim in the
> Thames.
Prince Henry regrettably bathed in the Thames. The Thames was
literally an open sewer, those who could afford to leave town in the
summer
could still smell it a hundred miles away.
The English believed that James I was so jealous of his son's immense
popularity (and he was) that he actually poisoned Prince Henry.
Apparently Raleigh, who had earlier picked up
something swimming in the Thames sent Henry
some medicine that cured Raleigh but the King
kept it from his son.
James was purile, he was intensely jealous
of Henry's tremendous popularity with the
English people, James was later implicated
(by his own letters) in the horrific murder of
Sir Thomas Overbury . . . who knows what he was capable of.
> Did any but Stratman and
> Marlowe have his clothes washed in Datchet-lane? I heard that the
> wealthy would return clothes overseas to the tailor for washing.]
Probably true. You can't wash silk, it shrivels.
That episode is probably based on a true story.
Bacon's best friend and a co-lawyer at the Virginia Company, a lawyer
named Montagu, was desperately in love with a young woman
but her father caught them together and gave the girl a terrible
beating.
So there's the beating "element."
Montagu then procured a large wicker laundry basket, the girl got into
the basket, the basket was carried out to the coach and Montague and
the girl eloped.
So there's the basket and marriage angle.
Sometimes life imitates art.
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> ["sore labour's bath" seems associated with physical work. Not sure
> any but Stratman did that.]
>
> Macbeth
> Act 2, Scene 2
>
> MACBETH Methought I heard a voice cry 'Sleep no more!
> Macbeth does murder sleep', the innocent sleep,
> Sleep that knits up the ravell'd sleeve of care,
> The death of each day's life, sore labour's bath,
> Balm of hurt minds, great nature's second course,
> Chief nourisher in life's feast
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ["a gentle bath" with balms, no less. Something that contrasts with
> the condition of an army general, maybe. I see Oxford at his bath
> here.]
>
> Coriolanus
> Act 1, Scene 6
>
> COMINIUS Though I could wish
> You were conducted to a gentle bath
> And balms applied to, you, yet dare I never
> Deny your asking: take your choice of those
> That best can aid your action.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mark Steese
news:4ddd1de6$0$31288$607e...@cv.net:
Many influential Americans also regarded Lincoln as a half-civilized
yokel, or worse:
http://www.abrahamlincolncartoons.info/SubPages/CartoonLarge.php?UniqueID=229
http://www.indiana.edu/~liblilly/cartoon/reminder.html
http://elections.harpweek.com/1864/cartoons/ColDemands12w.jpg
http://www.indiana.edu/~liblilly/cartoon/monkey.html
--
The boughs rustled, and the air was stirred by the muffled beat of their
wings: I could see them, like unearthly, boding shapes, as they swooped
between me and the stars. -Bayard Taylor
nordicskiv2
<0f385b2b-e75b-45c1...@c41g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
TomFoster <hedle...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Indeed, nothing seems to register with Elizabeth, and she remains
sadly ineducable -- nothing, that is, except lurid gossip, ludicrous
pseudoscience and pseudohistory, and paranoid conspiracy theories:
about Bacon's supposed authorship of Shakespeare, about North Korean
submarine attacks on gulf oil platforms, about the imminent ignition
of the atmosphere, about the Large Hadron Collider's imminent
destruction of the universe, etc. -- all of which she eagerly and
uncritically embraces with the touchingly naïve credulity of the
irremediably clueless.
> Tom