Gentle Reminder - Organization Applications Due Today at 23:00 UTC

[LH (Leslie Hawthorn)]

Hello everyone,

For those of you not following the announcement list, just a quick
repost here. Organization applications are due today at 23:00 UTC -
please make sure to get your application in on time or it will not be
reviewed.

Handy time zone converter:

http://bit.ly/cJXJlv

Best,
LH

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[brion....@gmail.com]

Just a quick check -- at least a couple orgs have been tripped up by
following the Pacific local times listed at
http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/timeline
which erroneously list PDT times for Daylight Saving Time, though DST
is not currently active in California:

March 12:
4 PM PDT / 23:00 UTC

Some folks in the #gsoc IRC channel tell us that they were told the
apps would be extended an hour for this reason, up to 4pm PST, however
the app page has been saying it's "inactive" since at least 3:03 PT.

Is there anything we can do? We thought we had over an hour to polish
up our final apps before submitting, and nobody involved in running
the program is currently available on IRC...

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com / brion @ status.net)
StatusNet

On Mar 12, 6:53 am, "LH (Leslie Hawthorn)" <lhawth...@google.com>
wrote:

[Mamba]

On Mar 12, 6:33 pm, "br...@pobox.com" <brion.vib...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just a quick check -- at least a couple orgs have been tripped up by

> following the Pacific local times listed athttp://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010...

> which erroneously list PDT times for Daylight Saving Time, though DST
> is not currently active in California:
>
> March 12:
> 4 PM PDT / 23:00 UTC
>
> Some folks in the #gsoc IRC channel tell us that they were told the
> apps would be extended an hour for this reason, up to 4pm PST, however
> the app page has been saying it's "inactive" since at least 3:03 PT.
>
> Is there anything we can do? We thought we had over an hour to polish
> up our final apps before submitting, and nobody involved in running
> the program is currently available on IRC...

I am exactly in the same situation:

I was looking at the timeline yesterday and it said "4 PM PDT", which
is 7 PM on the East Coast, where I am.

It was 6:30 PM EST when I went to submit the application, and the page
is "Inactive" :-(

How can we fix it??????

[Henry]

I was similarly caught out by this. Also there is some copy at
http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/org_app/take/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/orgapp
- first sentence says "Please complete this survey by Friday, 12.
March 2010 11:00PM." which I erroneously thought had been localized,
given the absence of timezone. Once I realised the mistake, I tried to
submit at just before 4pm PST, which also did not succeed.

I appreciate there's little chance of an extension or exception (and
that the timeline is technically correct, if confusing), but I do have
a complete application, seven projects and some mentors ready to go if
anything is possible! I have tried asking in IRC, but there doesn't
seem to be anyone authoritative from the project responding at the
moment.

Thanks,

Henry

[robla]

On Mar 12, 3:33 pm, "br...@pobox.com" <brion.vib...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just a quick check -- at least a couple orgs have been tripped up by

> following the Pacific local times listed athttp://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010...

> which erroneously list PDT times for Daylight Saving Time, though DST
> is not currently active in California:
>
> March 12:
> 4 PM PDT / 23:00 UTC
>
> Some folks in the #gsoc IRC channel tell us that they were told the
> apps would be extended an hour for this reason, up to 4pm PST, however
> the app page has been saying it's "inactive" since at least 3:03 PT.

Adding my name to the list. I'm so used to people using "PDT" when
they mean "PST" and vice versa that I don't even think to pay
attention to the distinction anymore.

Rob

[Carol Smith]

Hi everyone,

I spoke to Leslie and she already noticed the time zone issue this
morning and corrected the webapp hours ago to close at the right time,
0:00UTC or 4:00PT, she just didn't update the mailing list.

So the app closed at the correct time as far as we're aware right now.

Now to spend some time reviewing all the great apps. :-)

Cheers,
Carol

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[Mamba]

On Mar 12, 7:49 pm, Carol Smith <car...@google.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I spoke to Leslie and she already noticed the time zone issue this
> morning and corrected the webapp hours ago to close at the right time,
> 0:00UTC or 4:00PT, she just didn't update the mailing list.
>
> So the app closed at the correct time as far as we're aware right now.

Unfortunately not.

I was trying at 3:35 PM PST, and got "inactive page". I posted here on
this forum at 3:48 PM PST.

br...@pobox.com tried at 3.03 PM PST and posted here a message at
3:33 PM PST

[Leslie Hawthorn]

Hrm, I don't know what to tell you. I did notice the error this morning and set the web application to accept applications until 13 March 0:00 UTC, which would be the correct answer Pacific time. I apologize for not updating the mailing list, but I have been at a conference all day and barely have had time to touch my computer.

Did you check your left hand navigation to see if your organization application appears in the list view? If not, email me off-list.

Cheers,

LH

 

[Nicole]

We tried at 1 minute after 3pm PT and the app was closed.

Nicole.

[Todd]

Hi,

I was caught by this too & am sure that I was trying to reach the app
page at 3:40PST, but it was giving an error page saying it was
inactive.
please check the server logs for my IP (132.239.235.234) if you don't
believe me!

Cheers,
Todd

On Mar 12, 4:49 pm, Carol Smith <car...@google.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I spoke to Leslie and she already noticed the time zone issue this
> morning and corrected the webapp hours ago to close at the right time,
> 0:00UTC or 4:00PT, she just didn't update the mailing list.
>
> So the app closed at the correct time as far as we're aware right now.
>
> Now to spend some time reviewing all the great apps. :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Carol
>

> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Henry <henry.robin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I was similarly caught out by this. Also there is some copy at

> >http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/org_app/take/gsoc_program/google/gsoc...

[Reece Hart]

On 03/12/2010 04:49 PM, Carol Smith wrote:
> I spoke to Leslie and she already noticed the time zone issue this
> morning and corrected the webapp hours ago to close at the right time,
> 0:00UTC or 4:00PT, she just didn't update the mailing list.
>
> So the app closed at the correct time as far as we're aware right now.
>

The app definitely closed at 3pm PST.

I thought I was submitting an hour early. I had finished copy-pasting my
application into the form, but submitted with a bad link id just before
3pm PST. By the time I fixed it, I was late. *Really* frustrating.

-Reece

[Nicole]

Leslie,

This was really an honest mistake on our part. We saw 4pm pacific time
in the timeline, looked at the clock in CA and it said 3pm. We've
worked very hard on our mentor application and would be grateful if we
could submit it.

Thanks,
Nicole Yankelovich
OpenWonderland.org

On Mar 12, 6:33 pm, "br...@pobox.com" <brion.vib...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Just a quick check -- at least a couple orgs have been tripped up by

> following the Pacific local times listed athttp://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010...

[Jonathan Kaplan]

I don't think that is the case. I clicked "Submit" on the form for Open Wonderland at around 3:03pm PST, and the app was unavailable. When I reloaded the application about 20 minutes later, that pages was unavailable as well. I believe several of us tried to submit applications in that time window.

-Jonathan

[Leslie Hawthorn]

Folks, relax. As I mentioned above, the application was set to receive applications until 4 PM Pacific today. I'm sorry people had trouble submitting, but the system time was set accurately. That being said, if you've mailed in this thread, email me off list. I make no guarantees just as we cannot guarantee results of an application to anyone.

Cheers,

LH

[Michael Schumacher]

One attempt for a solution could be to remove all times except the UTC
ones from any documentation related to SoC.

HTH,
Michael

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[Leslie Hawthorn]

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 3:57 AM, Michael Schumacher <schu...@gmx.de> wrote:

On 13.03.2010 01:47, robla wrote:
> On Mar 12, 3:33 pm, "br...@pobox.com" <brion.vib...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Some folks in the #gsoc IRC channel tell us that they were told the
>> apps would be extended an hour for this reason, up to 4pm PST, however
>> the app page has been saying it's "inactive" since at least 3:03 PT.
>
> Adding my name to the list.  I'm so used to people using "PDT" when
> they mean "PST" and vice versa that I don't even think to pay
> attention to the distinction anymore.

One attempt for a solution could be to remove all times except the UTC
ones from any documentation related to SoC.

Excellent suggestion and one I'm going to implement when I get back from SIGCSE. Thanks! 

[Leslie Hawthorn]

Hello everyone,

Looks like 5 groups got bitten by this and I have already heard from each of them off-list. I would also like to thank Austin Appel for sending me the IRC logs for #gsoc yesterday so I could verify that 2 folks who had not emailed me privately or on list around 3-4 PM California time were looking for help in IRC.

To solve this problem, I will be manually inputting the applications for these five projects into the web application on behalf of these folks. This may mean some rigamarole later to get the applications signed up to the right folks, but that's no big deal - we'll make it work.

In the meantime, everyone relax as best you can during the application review period. We'll post the results of our review next week. 

Cheers,

LH

[Mamba]

On Mar 13, 9:41 am, Leslie Hawthorn <lhawth...@google.com> wrote:
> To solve this problem, I will be manually inputting the applications for
> these five projects into the web application on behalf of these folks. This
> may mean some rigamarole later to get the applications signed up to the
> right folks, but that's no big deal - we'll make it work.

Thank you so much! Very much appreciated!

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XOOPS Project
http://www.xoops.org

[Nicole]

Leslie,

Thanks for taking time over your weekend to help us. We're extremely
grateful!

Regards,
Nicole Yankelovich
OpenWonderland.org

[LH (Leslie Hawthorn)]

> > Hello everyone,
>
> > Looks like 5 groups got bitten by this and I have already heard from each of
> > them off-list. I would also like to thank Austin Appel for sending me the
> > IRC logs for #gsoc yesterday so I could verify that 2 folks who had not
> > emailed me privately or on list around 3-4 PM California time were looking
> > for help in IRC.
>
> > To solve this problem, I will be manually inputting the applications for
> > these five projects into the web application on behalf of these folks. This
> > may mean some rigamarole later to get the applications signed up to the
> > right folks, but that's no big deal - we'll make it work.
>
> > In the meantime, everyone relax as best you can during the application
> > review period. We'll post the results of our review next week.

Okay folks, just for the sake of keeping everyone up to date on this,
I think we have found a bug or two. If you are interested in more
information, please visit the Melange Developer List, this thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/melange-soc-dev/t/e79a7788cdf1865b

What this means:
All it means is that a bit more work will be required to get the
applications that were emailed to me into the system. It will happen,
just a matter of some bug squashing or verification of Error Between
Keyboard and Chair (EBKAC), with that chair being my own.