Just verifying - App Engine is hosted on servers located in the USA right?

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Spines

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Sep 23, 2010, 10:38:52 AM9/23/10
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Just verifying - App Engine is hosted on servers located in the USA
right? And will stay that way?

The reason I ask is because I've been reading up about "fair use" for
using other people's images, and it seems that things are much clearer
legally if your servers are located in the USA.

John McLaughlin

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Sep 24, 2010, 8:53:53 AM9/24/10
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I don't think so. I've been working with the opposite assumption.
When they say "running on Google's infrastructure" I'm assuming that
my application will be running worldwide with datastore information
replicated as needed to worldwide servers. Perhaps Google AppEngine
for Business can make such guarantees when it launches. I haven't
seen anything specific one way or another, but would love to know.

Ikai Lan (Google)

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Sep 24, 2010, 10:10:49 AM9/24/10
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The data is stored in North American data centers. 

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adams

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Sep 27, 2010, 3:03:14 AM9/27/10
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Just to clarify: does that mean, though, that it might be processed
outside of North America? And I assumme North America means USA and
Canada.


On Sep 24, 5:10 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)" <ikai.l+gro...@google.com>
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> The data is stored in North American data centers.
>
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> Ikai Lan
> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
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> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:53 AM, John McLaughlin <
>
> johnmclaugh...@massanimation.com> wrote:
> > I don't think so.  I've been working with the opposite assumption.
> > When they say "running on Google's infrastructure" I'm assuming that
> > my application will be running worldwide with datastore information
> > replicated as needed to worldwide servers.  Perhaps Google AppEngine
> > for Business can make such guarantees when it launches.  I haven't
> > seen anything specific one way or another, but would love to know.
>
> > On Sep 23, 7:38 am, Spines <kwste...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Just verifying - App Engine is hosted on servers located in the USA
> > > right?  And will stay that way?
>
> > > The reason I ask is because I've been reading up about "fair use" for
> > > using other people's images, and it seems that things are much clearer
> > > legally if your servers are located in the USA.
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Peter Ondruska

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Sep 27, 2010, 7:25:36 AM9/27/10
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Well, this may not be truth always. Unfortunately Google does not
disclose much about their data centres... One is being built in
Finland.
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Erwin Streur

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Sep 30, 2010, 9:17:11 AM9/30/10
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I agree. Rumors indicate that there are a couple in the Netherlands
and Belgium (Google appears to like water ;-), but there is hardly any
information about which ones are used for what.

I'm surprised by the statement of Ikai Lan (Google) about it and would
like more clarification on it. Does it mean that
a) (GAE) data might be stored in North America
b) (GAE) data is stored in North America as well (but actually it is
stored in all/most datacenter across the world)
c) (GAE) data is stored only in North America
?

Peter Ondruska

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Sep 30, 2010, 10:04:45 AM9/30/10
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This brings up questions affecting all from European Union especially
if they collect personal information which is protected differently in
EU (especially here in Czech Republic). According to our laws (CZ) the
one who collects personal information should first get permission to
do so and the famous office (remember Street View ;-) ) may conduct
audit that collected data is compliant. Not sure what the consequences
are when Google replicates data to/from EU... For this reason I would
prefer data to be stored just outside EU :-)))

PS: I am not lawyer... and do not want to be one :-)

Ikai Lan (Google)

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Sep 30, 2010, 1:50:55 PM9/30/10
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Here's the official line about where data for Google Apps is stored:


We're a bit more open about this and can state that App Engine data centers are in North America, but beyond that I can't say much more. If you are concerned about legal issues, please have your legal team consult with our team at legal-...@google.com.

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Peter Ondruska

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Sep 30, 2010, 6:36:23 PM9/30/10
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:-) Thanks Ikai, I didn't expect more information anyway :-))

On Sep 30, 7:50 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)" <ikai.l+gro...@google.com>
wrote:
> Here's the official line about where data for Google Apps is stored:
>
> http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=106886
>
> We're a bit more open about this and can state that App Engine data centers
> are in North America, but beyond that I can't say much more. If you are
> concerned about legal issues, please have your legal team consult with our
> team at legal-supp...@google.com.
>
> --
> Ikai Lan
> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
> Blogger:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
> Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
>
> > > > > On Sep 24, 5:10 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)" <ikai.l+gro...@google.com<ikai.l%2Bgro...@google.com>
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PK

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Oct 1, 2010, 6:01:02 PM10/1/10
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North America is a bit vague. We and our customers do not care about
the geography, we really care about the jurisdictions of the locale
where the data resides. Could you please clarify if "North America"
means USA and Canada, or USA, Canada and Mexico or something else?

BTW, being able to specify a locale along with the application would
be a great improvement.

Thanks
PK

Joe Roets

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Sep 16, 2013, 10:21:44 PM9/16/13
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broken link on official line :(

Barry Hunter

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Sep 24, 2013, 8:57:48 PM9/24/13
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You have resurrected a thread from 4 years ago!

Now can see, point 2.3 in the terms



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