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Andrey Tarantsov

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Dec 17, 2009, 9:56:24 AM12/17/09
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Hello, App Engine developers!

Two quick poll-style questions for you (interested in replies from
both Java and Python developers):

1) IDEs / editors: Are you Java guys using Eclipse or IDEA or
something else? Are you Python guys using PyDev, another IDE, Vim/
Emacs or a regular text editor?

2) If you could pick a single tool to be developed to help you write
App Engine apps, what would it be?

Your answers would provide a very interesting insight into our
community, and would also greatly help us at OnPositive to build more
App Engine tools as well as extend our AppWrench with more interesting
features.

If enough people reply, we'll sum up and post the results here after a
while.

Andrey.

Adam Crossland

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Dec 17, 2009, 10:01:15 AM12/17/09
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Python guy here. Using Wing IDE.

A tool that I would like to see would be a graphical datastore
modeller/designer to generate Model classes for me. I find it a bit
annoying to have to remember all of the different Types and the
different parameters that various types take, especially when Google's
documentation of it is so atrocious.

Sandeep Sathaye

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Dec 17, 2009, 10:16:14 AM12/17/09
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Please check this link out. This gives JDBC/SQL access to Google Bigtable. Technically, any JDBC compliant modeller/designer would work. We have tested this with PowerArchitect. This doesn't create Model classes but works with standard SQL. This may not be something you are looking for but you can check it out.
 
 
 

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Joshua Smith

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Dec 17, 2009, 10:41:50 AM12/17/09
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Python / Emacs.

(When I write Java, I also use Emacs. I'm one of those IDE-haters. I'm probably not very representative of your target audience.)

No particular tool deficiency comes to mind.

Jesaja Everling

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Dec 17, 2009, 10:51:52 AM12/17/09
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I use Eclipse with Pydev.
I second Adams request for a graphical designer. Not absolutely
necessary, but a nice tool in my opinion.

Best Regards,

Jesaja Everling

Ram Shanker

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Dec 17, 2009, 11:22:45 AM12/17/09
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PYTHON :

Notepad++ :)

The one of the most important update would be SIMPLE way to edit the
code in the browser itself. ... Like you have some Modal in datastore
which stores the code and executed in sort of JavaScript eval style. I
am quite noob to write big applications but guess It may work this
way, something similar to *shell* open source project. The open source
project shell evaluates the codes sent from browser. So basically a
{ Javascript syntex hilighter + DataModal storing the edited code }.
Much easier access to Live Datastore. Developing a facebook app on
local dev_server is a pain for bi-directional API calls.

Ram Shanker

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Dec 17, 2009, 11:29:18 AM12/17/09
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If you guys could integrate this with open source shell project. Once
code is developed, It could be easily copied to hard-copy ;) and
handled to app.yaml

http://marijn.haverbeke.nl/codemirror/contrib/python/index.html

On Dec 17, 7:56 pm, Andrey Tarantsov <andrey...@gmail.com> wrote:

Takashi Matsuo

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Dec 17, 2009, 12:02:41 PM12/17/09
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Python, Emacs and werkzeug's debugger.
The debugger comes with werkzeug is neat!
http://kay-docs.shehas.net/debugging.html

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Takashi Matsuo
Kay's daddy

Robert Kluin

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Dec 17, 2009, 12:10:25 PM12/17/09
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Python, App Engine Launcher, Editra, Murky

Rafael Cotta

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Dec 17, 2009, 11:06:44 AM12/17/09
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Hey, why not use a Google Spreadsheet (the form tool) to gather this data?

Regards.

Rafael Cotta

Rafael Cotta

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Dec 17, 2009, 10:45:21 AM12/17/09
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I'm a Java guy using Eclipse.

Any tool to help us design/generate code to persist data on BigTable would be very, very helpful, IMHO.

For those that never used JDO our JPA, and wants to code for GAE, learning all the persistence stuff is painful.

Regards.

Rafael Cotta

Greg Tracy

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Dec 17, 2009, 2:20:24 PM12/17/09
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I use Eclipse with PydDev.

I'd like to see the dev environment round out the tools for local
debugging. Specifically, I'd like a turn-key solution for running cron
jobs and a sendmail stub.

Tim Hoffman

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Dec 17, 2009, 8:16:17 PM12/17/09
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Python

Boa Constructor


Jason Smith

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Dec 18, 2009, 12:53:53 AM12/18/09
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Python, using command-line tools and some custom Rake tasks for
management. GVim or MacVim with ctags for editing. I've used PyDev/
Eclipse for some projects.

Next year we may adopt Hadoop for analytics so I'll probably bite the
bullet and move to Eclipse to get everything under one roof.

Ian Marshall

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Dec 18, 2009, 4:32:58 AM12/18/09
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IDEs / editor
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I develop in Java using NetBeans.


Tool to be developed to help you write App Engine apps, what would it
be?
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I don't particularly need anything, but I would like a server-side
debug tool to allow me to run a GAE web app with debug functionality
on the server-side. Obviously, I use logging, but a step-by-step tool
would be more productive.

Ian Marshall

Tom Wu

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Dec 18, 2009, 5:00:02 AM12/18/09
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editor-geany python

2009/12/18 Ian Marshall <ianmarshall.uk@gmail.com>
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