Peter Fiekowsky Ocean Iron Fertilization & Biden Project

[rob...@rtulip.net]

Dear Peter

 

Your webinar is superb! I hope everyone can watch it at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1dI3_zJlqI and donate to your Grandparents Fund. Sharing your email below.

 

Your Biden Project to get President Biden to call for climate restoration can, as you say, catalyse a UN policy shift from stopping interference to climate restoration.

 

Your Pinatubo Project to get interested nations to test iron for fisheries restoration will generate excellent data under sound and safe governance.

 

I have two questions.

 

Do you see iron chloride as a viable initial distribution method alongside iron sulphate?

 

Do you agree we need to tackle the immediate albedo problem of the darkening of the planet in coordination with the carbon restoration journey?

 

Many thanks

 

Robert Tulip

Rebrighten.org

 

From: Peter Fiekowsky <cdou...@pb01.wixemails.com>
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2023 5:52 AM
To: Robert Tulip <rob...@rtulip.net>
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[Peter Fiekowsky]

Robert-

Thank you for helping promote our common work together. It means a lot to me and, I'm sure, to our colleagues.

Good questions: 

1. Is iron chloride (used for methane oxidation) a viable iron distribution method alongside iron sulfate? For now I say 'no', because it is distributed as an aerosol, thus the amount that falls into the ocean is too unpredictable--it's a function of rainfall. For the first 10 years or so, we'll need to control the iron distribution carefully, dissolving the iron from the ship so its effects can be measured. We'll probably want to always do that, even though nature distributes  the iron quite randomly from dust storms (and wildfires like in Australia in 2019). 

However, reports (personal communication) from the 2012 Haida test suggest that fine iron oxide works at least as well as iron sulfate. That's food for thought.

2. Do we need to tackle albedo (solar radiation management, or SRM) in coordination with rapid CO2 removal? I express that thought this way: 

SRM can only be considered after we've committed to restoring safe CO2 levels. That is because while CO2 levels are increasing, the termination shock (rapid warming when SRM is halted for any reason), would lead to a bad extinction event. Extinction events tend to be related to rapid warming, and SRM termination under today's net-zero policy would lead to warming of 1-2 degrees in 1-2 years, 100 to 1000 times faster than during previous extinction events (also here). 

The termination shock is quite likely to happen as today's collapse of ecosystems, political systems, social systems and economics systems accelerate exponentially.  So statistically, it's a very bad bet for humanity unless we're restoring CO2 levels. Without restoration, we're far better off with gradual warming and without the extinction event that SRM termination would likely cause.

However:

If we're restoring CO2 levels, then the risk of termination shock will be essentially prevented. This is because oceans and ecosystems would be recovering every year--leading to our social systems steadily recovering each year. After 15 or 20 years no SRM would be needed at all because CO2 and global warming would be back to what it was 50-100 years ago.

So I urge everyone to discuss climate restoration, not SRM. Only allow SRM after climate restoration has become the climate goal. It's life or death. The experts I talk to (David Keith and Doug MacMartin) agree that it would only take 2-5 years to implement SRM, once CO2 restoration has been started.

Thank you for asking. I welcome any further questions.

Peter

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[Peter Fiekowsky]

Doug-

Good question. Logically I'd say yes, Arctic & Antarctic SRM are safe to promote. But in terms of messaging I say only promote polar SRM along with promoting climate restoration--until the world speaks the explicit goal of giving our children a safe climate.

Actually-if we establish the rule that all promotion of SRM includes promoting the goal of giving our children an historically safe climate, that would be a win for our children.

Thank you for provoking more thinking.

The message for 2024 is "We ARE restoring the climate". We say this because we know that nature has done it, and we can start from nature's methods and do it safely too--when we decide to do so. 

Warmly,

Peter

On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 4:37 AM Douglas Grandt <answer...@mac.com> wrote:

Happy solstice-morning-after, Peter!

Would your response be different if two versions of albedo/SRM were considered  separately?

• Global

• Arctic and Antarctic only (local/regional)

Best,

Doug 

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