License for FriCAS-Aldor interface files

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Ralf Hemmecke

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Jan 6, 2011, 7:44:24 AM1/6/11
to Stephen Watt, Mike Dewar, prop...@aldor.org, fricas-devel, aldor-l
Dear Stephen, dear Mike,

All the best for 2011.

Since I haven't got any response so far, may I ask you again to consider
my mail from September 2009?

Thank you
Ralf

On 09/24/2009 11:38 PM, Ralf HEMMECKE wrote:
> Dear Stephen, dear Mike

> as you might know, I have built some scripts in FriCAS (a fork of
> Axiom) (http://fricas.sourceforge.net/) in order to build libaxiom.al
> from scratch. Unfortunately, I can neither distribute libaxiom.al nor
> some necessary .as files under the same license as FriCAS (mBSD),
> since this code is only available under the Aldor Public License 2.0.
>
> I hereby kindly ask you to release the following files under a BSD
> license (same as for the Axiom code).
>
> https://svn.origo.ethz.ch/algebraist/trunk/aldor/lib/libax0/axiom.as
> https://svn.origo.ethz.ch/algebraist/trunk/aldor/lib/libax0/axextend.as
> https://svn.origo.ethz.ch/algebraist/trunk/aldor/lib/libax0/axlit.as
> https://svn.origo.ethz.ch/algebraist/trunk/aldor/lib/libax0/stub.as
> https://svn.origo.ethz.ch/algebraist/trunk/aldor/lib/libax0/minimach.as
> https://svn.origo.ethz.ch/algebraist/trunk/aldor/lib/axllib/src/lang.as
>
> Furthermore, in order to distribute a precompiled libaxiom.al together
> with FriCAS, it would be helpful to also release
>
> $(ALDORROOT)/lib/libfoam.al(runtime.ao)
>
> under a BSD license. For 'runtime.ao', also releasing the sources
> under a BSD license would be good, but I explicitly ask for the
> release of the .ao format.
>
> Please help the FriCAS project and don't let Aldor die.
>
> Has meanwhile anything been done to release all of the Aldor
> compiler+library sources under a GPL-compatible license?
>
> Thank you for your time.
>
> Yours sincerely
> Ralf Hemmecke

Bill Page

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Jan 6, 2011, 9:12:26 AM1/6/11
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Ralf,

One might wonder if after several years of sending these requests with
absolutely no response one might wonder whether it might be possible
to simply consider Aldor to be "abandoned" by it's principles and
proceed with resurrecting it under some new organization?

Regards,
Bill Page.

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Ralf Hemmecke

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Jan 6, 2011, 11:19:03 AM1/6/11
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Thank you.

Ralf

On 01/06/2011 02:31 PM, Stephen Watt wrote:
> Dear Ralf,
>
> Thank you for your kind wishes for 2011. Best wishes to you too for the year.
>
> I am working on the license issue now.
>
> Yours,
>
> Stephen

Eugene Surowitz

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Jan 6, 2011, 12:50:06 PM1/6/11
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No way under United States copyright law as far as I know.

Canadian copyright law on the other hand may be different;
I believe it has provision for paying into a fund for works
whose owners cannot be found. You probably have to be very
careful about where the product is distributed.

In any case a copyright specializing lawyer should be consulted.

Eugene J. Surowitz

Bertfried Fauser

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Jan 8, 2011, 11:24:49 AM1/8/11
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Dear Steven and Mike,

my best wishes to you for the new year 2011. Some people started
2011 with the
hope that Aldor might become compatible (at least the binary files listed below)
to be distributed with AXIOM (FriCAS).
As Ralf Hemmecke has sent emails on several occasions, which I fully support,
may I kindly ask for an answer to these mails, if the 2011 hope may become true?
I see no reason why both of you are so silent about a decision in the
this or that way,
or is Aldor abandoned?

Kind regards
BF.

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>> from scratch. Unfortunately, I can neither distribute libaxiom.al nor
>> some necessary .as files under the same license as FriCAS (mBSD),
>> since this code is only available under the Aldor Public License 2.0.
>>
>> I hereby kindly ask you to release the following files under a BSD
>> license (same as for the Axiom code).
>>
>> https://svn.origo.ethz.ch/algebraist/trunk/aldor/lib/libax0/axiom.as
>> https://svn.origo.ethz.ch/algebraist/trunk/aldor/lib/libax0/axextend.as
>> https://svn.origo.ethz.ch/algebraist/trunk/aldor/lib/libax0/axlit.as
>> https://svn.origo.ethz.ch/algebraist/trunk/aldor/lib/libax0/stub.as
>> https://svn.origo.ethz.ch/algebraist/trunk/aldor/lib/libax0/minimach.as
>> https://svn.origo.ethz.ch/algebraist/trunk/aldor/lib/axllib/src/lang.as
>>
>> Furthermore, in order to distribute a precompiled libaxiom.al together
>> with FriCAS, it would be helpful to also release
>>
>> $(ALDORROOT)/lib/libfoam.al(runtime.ao)
>>
>> under a BSD license. For 'runtime.ao', also releasing the sources
>> under a BSD license would be good, but I explicitly ask for the
>> release of the .ao format.
>>
>> Please help the FriCAS project and don't let Aldor die.
>>
>> Has meanwhile anything been done to release all of the Aldor
>> compiler+library sources under a GPL-compatible license?
>>
>> Thank you for your time.
>>
>> Yours sincerely
>> Ralf Hemmecke
>

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