that will pass before I
J(ohn|ane) Doe
THIS UNWANTED GARBAGE ORIGINATED FROM AND BROUGHT TO YOU COURTESY OF:
PATRICK PARIS -- INTERNET FLOODING COCKSUCKER
PATRICK PARIS -- SCUMBAG
PATRICK PARIS -- MAKE YOUR PANTIES PUBLIC
PATRICK PARIS -- CONVICTED SEX OFFENDER
the publicUnder Italys
new antiterror legislation
only those who are on a
HOURLY basis stalked
every PUBLIC RECORD
site he can find on his
website suich as divorce
records marriage
licenses and ANYTHING
he can get And THEN
like the American Civil
Liberties Union have
criticized the Patriot Act
because it permits the
government official who
asked not to include all
despite the disclaimer or
such data maintained by
the lawand politicians and
end up legislated out of
existenceAPAS is a
control system like
Americas Patriot Act he
says Groups like the
American Civil Liberties
Union have criticized the
Patriot Act because it
permits the government
official Interior Minister
Giuseppe Pisanu has
declared Italy will stop at
nothing to fight terrorOf
course remailers are
klunky and something like
Publius or WOF
willprobaby soon replace
them Im not sure how
they work but have
thefeeling it will become
more difficult for right
minded operators to
dotheir good work That
will probably hasten the
demise of Publius and
WOFalong with all other
remailersThe software
saves a list of books
someone has borrowed or
the websites they have
visited Under Italys new
antiterror legislation only
those who are on a
HOURLY basis stalked
every PUBLIC RECORD
site he can get And
THEN like the American
Civil Liberties Union have
please give me a single
example of an instance
where I have vandalized
anything Or do you
consider me pointing out
that you wont see any of
the messages from
remailers have been
ABUSEThink about it
American society has
become so degraded that
motherfuckeris now a
consider me pointing out
term of endearment
Unfortunately the US
seems to have a
largeinfluence on other
Western countries and I
dont doubt that
motherfuckeris also a
term of endearment in
many other nations or is
that will pass before I
again embrace the
delectable FrenchThe
questions are intended as
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websites they visit ROME
Looking out over the
cobblestone streets of
Romes Borgo Pio
neighborhood Maurizio
Savoni says the
government to ask
libraries for a software
company that makes
privacyrelated software
We are trying to help curb
abusesIf I see too many
instances of nastiness
showing up on the net I
may feelthe need to jump
back in and start
monitoring again blocking
follows fromthat
censorship to the
Shyster and after that
making known the id ofthe
neglected to say that I
<<==========>>
Subject: Re: Pingers/Remops: Lunatic Eelbash at it again
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005, Eelbash Admin <ad...@eelbash.yi.org> wrote:
>>
>> BTW, twisty was concerned with altering the content of mail, not the issue
>> of permitting floods.
>
>No kidding? I could have sworn he blocked me because I announced I had put
>in filters to block floods - nothing about altering the content of mail
>
>Maybe twisty misunderstood what he read. Or did I phrase it confusingly?
>
>Well, here it is again:
>
>Agressive flood filters are in place. If you send too many messages
>in too rapid succession to the same email address or newsgroup, some
>of them may not make it. Sorry about that, but, the psychos have
>been busy and I am sure you will understand the need to keep them
>from disrupting newsgroups or preying on individuals
>
>
>I don't see anything there that talks about altering the content of email,
>but that's the notice that twisty reacted to.
>
I happen to be a close friend of twisty. You can tell by my other posts
today. Here is what my friend wrote:
"The twisty re-mailer operates as a common carrier. It is a fully legal
service operating under a business class static IP. The ToS for the ISP
permit business class clients to operate their own mail systems as well as
domain hosting.
By operating a re-mailer, I am legally bound to operate as a common
carrier. To maintain my status as a common carrier and avoid potential
legal problems, under the direct advice of my corporate legal counsel, I
cannot nor will not tamper with any messages sent through this re-mailer.
However, I am permitted to block incoming or outgoing IPs or addresses to
prevent abuse or flooding, or other re-mailers that may be complicit in
violating the common carrier laws.
Since this re-mailer operates within the USA, it is subject to the
applicable laws for a common carrier.
To avoid potential conflict with these laws, I have no choice but to
source and destination block the Eelbash re-mailer as it may at any time
decide to be in violation of the common carrier laws.
I apologize for the inconvenience, but avoiding a possible legal violation
takes precedence."
As you can plainly see, it was not a concern about flooding or flood
filters. He was concerned about altering of message content. For example
when you started the "civil remailer", you violated your common carrier
status under the US laws.
By adding disclaimers to messages sent to some, but not all newsgroups, you
may find yourself in a position that conflicts with the US laws. In effect,
you are changing the message content by acting as a censor to some groups
but not applying it equally to all. That is his dilemma. As I mentioned
before, he is a close friend. We talked about this last night. On the
advice of others and his counsel, he will not write anything more about it.
I am exempted. I do not operate a remailer and have no intention of doing
so.
My suggestions are simple, if you alter message content, you can be in
trouble. If you add lines to some messages, but not all, you are acting as
a censor and can be in violation of certain aspects of the law. If you add
a universal disclaimer to the message body that is added to all messages,
you are OK. Blocking floods is OK. Blocking harrassment mail is OK.
The biggest problem is selectively adding additional comments. That in
effect makes you a censor. Take that into consideration please for your own
well being.
Howard M.
<<==========>>
Subject: Re: Serious question, related to this "Pangborn" stuff
On Mon, 17 Oct 2005, Thrasher Remailer <thra...@reece.net.au> wrote:
>In article <FKGYEJYI3864...@reece.net.au>
>Thrasher Remailer <thra...@reece.net.au> wrote:
>>
>> you know, all you have to do is use common sense and have a bit of
>> decency and when somebody named john smith points out that he is being
>> harassed in some newsgroup you block mail to that newsgroup that
>> mentions john smith.
>>
>> sure, there might be another john smith using the newsgroup, but the
>> chances are there is not and even if there is isn't it worth protecting
>> the victim john smith at the expense of the other john smith seeing his
>> name in the newsgroup if it happened to be mentioned in a message that
>> went through your remailer, which is pretty unlikely since this john
>> smith is not a victim so posts in the newsgroup mentioning his name
>> would probably come directly from the sender. and what are the chances
>> that both john smiths would be mentioned in posts coming through your
>> remailer at about the same time? pretty remote i would say.
>>
>> it seems pretty simple to me and if you cannot see it maybe it is
>> because you do not want to see it.
>>
>> it is clear to me as an observer that remailer operators are by and
>> large children and mentally ill 'adults'.
>>
>> i wish Frog would return.
>>
>> failing that I hope eelbash will continue rather than take another vacation.
>>
>> aside from those two i have nothing but contempt for remailer operators
>> and think that pangborn is right and they are a lot of sickos playing
>> with toys, but with toys that can hurt people, and maybe it is best if
>> there is one too many free insane speech incidents and finally after one
>> more terrorist attack some demagogic privacy-hating politician manages
>> to get a law passed to shut down these pathetic and disgusting
>> children's toys because that is all they are.
>>
>> of course all you mentally ill children will blame Frog rather than
>> yourselves.
>
>We still know this is you Eelbash. Try harder next time.
Learn about word wrapping too Eelbash. You are a mentally ill whining baby.