Invitation for Software Freedom Day 2009

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Akash Deep Shakya

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Sep 10, 2009, 1:24:57 PM9/10/09
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September 10, 2009

Dear fossians,

On behalf of FOSS Nepal Community, I would like to invite you all in "D2Hawkeye Services Software Freedom Day 2009". The theme for this year event is "FOSS for Enterprise ". The program will take place at Yalamaya kendra, Patandhoka on Septamber 19, 2009 (Saturday) from 9:00 am to 5:00 pm.

Software Freedom Day (SFD) is a worldwide celebration of Free and Open Source Software (FOSS). Our goal in this celebration is to educate the whole public about of the benefits of using high quality FOSS in education, in government, at home, and in business -- in short, everywhere!  The events that will take place are:

           Open Enterprises, Open Space (Come - Sit - discuss)

            Satasat GB: get some movies or distros

            OSCN project showcase

            Free DocumentaryShow

            Signature Campaign

            Open Enterprises Demo

            TuxDance

            FOSSials

            FOSS Quiz

            Games on GNU/Linux

      Presentations from FOSS Enthusiast

FREE CD/DVDs and many many more


Please please be there and help us to serve you all, and know more... its a great opportunity to meet people, talk abt FOSS and know more and more about everything you want to know.. people who knows nothing to geeks are invited!!!


Regards
Akash Deep Shakya "OpenAK"
FOSS Nepal Community
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Jwalanta Shrestha

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Sep 11, 2009, 10:44:36 AM9/11/09
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Hi there,

i'm little concerned about the name of the event here. How come "D2H" got prefixed? I think 'Software Freedom Day' is an international event and is a brand in itself..

No doubt, D2H has contributed a lot to the open-source arena in Nepal and their effort is highly appreciable but IMHO, that doesnt give them the right to change the name of an international event organized in Nepal by a non-profit organization.

Just my +1, i hope others feel the same way too..

Regards,
Jwalanta

Biswas Parajuli

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Sep 11, 2009, 10:52:45 AM9/11/09
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Yes.. SFD shouldn't be altered.D2H can be a tag under it like "with * support from D2H" etc.
"D2Hawkeye Services Software Freedom Day 2009" takes the whole feel away.It looks like a regular D2H sponsored event.

Aalok

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Sep 11, 2009, 11:24:59 AM9/11/09
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i agree with the comments above. i think changes to the title makes it
look like its organised by D2Hawkeye which forward the wrong
message.'Sponsored by D2HawkeyeService' after of before 'FOSS Nepal
SFD' would have been much better imo.

Akash Deep Shakya

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Sep 11, 2009, 11:26:07 AM9/11/09
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Dear all,

Can you all please help us organize the event rather than discussing all these.. we are short of organizing committee.. I guess question of why it is "D2H SFD" is they are our prime sponsor and if you guys have seen the generic proposal, we have already mentioned it there as well.. we released the generic proposal beforehand so that.. these discussions will take place then.. but no-one cared then.. now when we have acquired and d2H is helping us.. what are we doing?? I am sorry to be harsh.. but its hard to organize the event if situation as such is being created.. Please cooperate!!



Regards
Akash Deep Shakya "OpenAK"
FOSS Nepal Community
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akashakya at gmail dot com
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prabin gautam

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Sep 12, 2009, 1:12:17 AM9/12/09
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+1 Akash.

I see no harm.

Its time to show what we can do, how we can do rather than arguing on this issue.
We always act late. Why could not we hear such voices during the release of proposal? who bother to read and help organizing committee? isnt' it?

Though this point need to have discussed very very much before but now we have to act professional and ethecial. We cannot change this thing. So better not argue on this.
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Ekta Silwal

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Sep 12, 2009, 3:52:47 AM9/12/09
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My vote for Akash.

There is no pint of discussing about the title of the event. If anyone one is just commenting on work that has been already done, I would like to request them to come ahead and and prove your words by working together. When they were calling for the members of management committee and asking for suggestions, no one came forward and when some of the members have already done some work and found out the prime sponsors, now they are just commenting. Stop raising your voice and disappointments as different netas of Nepal, try and work hard instead.

regards,
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R A B I N D R A

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Sep 12, 2009, 3:59:49 AM9/12/09
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I am agree wid Ekta.

Regards,
Rabindra

Bibek Paudel

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Sep 12, 2009, 4:14:47 AM9/12/09
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I have major objections with Ekta's argument. First of all, she
assumes FOSS Nepal to be an "organization" working in the style of
some NGO or INGO and not a community of free software supporters. If
it is so, then I think the dissatisfied members of this organization
should stop argumentation as she has said, and instead opt for legal
or formal methods. I suggest them to call for a General Assembly to
challenge the 'organizing committee's' decision and annul it there. I
think a provision for this exists in the constitution of FOSS Nepal
(Pvt Ltd ?). Call a General Assembly Meeting and start a voting.

I didn't consider FOSS Nepal to be an INGO style body when I first
involved with it. So, if I am not satisfied, I will choose to discuss
it through mailing lists and other open communication channels that
exist. And as far as 'not-coming-forward' when called is concerned,
not all volunteers can always manage time for all activities. This
should not be taken as a measurement one's right to express
dissatisfaction. Moreover, I have read the Concept Note and never
found anything that even suggested allowing to rename the event's name
in favor of the Prime Sponsor. Software Freedom Day is an
international celebration of free software and it should remain that
way.

I'd rather discuss it in a separate thread.

Bibek

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Ishwor

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Sep 12, 2009, 5:33:58 AM9/12/09
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As a nepali free software user and a programmer myself, I'd totally
agree to Bibek's point.

The only reason I believe this discussion is happening in the first
place is because of D2H's name in the title of the even. My suggestion
is to have it under Gold Sponsor / Sponsored by: D2Hawke and keep the
event title as it should be :-)

Lot of free software meetups/events such as OSDC, Linux.conf.au, UDC
etc.. are sponsored by commercial companies(Google, Redhat etc..) yet
their name never appear on the title of the event itself because they
are exactly that - a sponsor; no more or no less ;-) and the event
serves a purpose to those organisation by making their name visible
and more marketable.

Suffice it to say they do get the visibility, credit and a name for
themselves by having it under Gold / Silver / Bronze sponsors. Let the
title remain intact (i.e., Software Freedom Day Nepal) because it is
exactly that; a celebration of free software; not a commercial one.
:-) Lastly, I believe free software isn't just about a libre software.
It's a community, a mindset that has to be honoured with time.

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Kailash Budhathoki

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Sep 12, 2009, 6:54:17 AM9/12/09
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MY OPINION REGARDING THIS DEBATE

I am in strict opposition of putting the name of the sponsor as a
prefix before "SFD". It just has to be "SFD" not "{X} . {"SFD"}".

Well it might be late but not that too late to correct the mistake.
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Abhudaya Sagar

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Sep 12, 2009, 6:59:34 AM9/12/09
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Me to. It is SFD only not blah blah SFD
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Akash Deep Shakya

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Sep 12, 2009, 12:51:24 PM9/12/09
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Dear all,

Please lets not draw conclusion here.. I agree with bibek on the terms the anyone can comment on the decisions that have been taken.. and we are an open community not any pvt ltd..sth like that.. but the decision that have recently been taken is the result of "right to information", we released a generic proposal(Please check the mailing list, with attached pdf it is send my abhishek)(@bibek not concept paper, we should submit proposals to organizers), we waited for "2 and half days" for peoples to comment, and let us know the changes that have to be made in the proposals. No body did.. so we thought it was alright and we reached to our sponsors, we asked them to help us, and bingo they did !! not only d2, but hlcit, nitc, nta, and many more join our hands... 

I agree SFD is a global event.. but also they give us the freedom to organize it in our own way.. with our own spirit...

I thank everyone for their thoughts and love they have shown towards the community and it really really express everybody's commitment and dedication...and we should show similar dedication by being there at the event and making the celebration as open and as free(as bibek said) as possible..
hereby I WOULD LIKE TO END THIS THREAD.

I hope you all will cooperate :)


Regards
Akash Deep Shakya "OpenAK"
FOSS Nepal Community
http://www.akashdeepshakya.com.np
akashakya at gmail dot com
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Nilambar Sharma

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Sep 12, 2009, 1:11:49 PM9/12/09
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On 9/12/09, Akash Deep Shakya <akas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Please lets not draw conclusion here.. I agree with bibek on the terms the
> anyone can comment on the decisions that have been taken.. and we are an
> open community not any pvt ltd..sth like that.. but the decision that have
> recently been taken is the result of "right to information", we released a
> generic proposal(Please check the mailing list, with attached pdf it is send
> my abhishek)(@bibek not concept paper, we should submit proposals to
> organizers), we waited for "2 and half days" for peoples to comment, and let
> us know the changes that have to be made in the proposals. No body did.. so
> we thought it was alright and we reached to our sponsors, we asked them to
> help us, and bingo they did !! not only d2, but hlcit, nitc, nta, and many
> more join our hands...
>
> I agree SFD is a global event.. but also they give us the freedom to
> organize it in our own way.. with our own spirit...
>
> I thank everyone for their thoughts and love they have shown towards the
> community and it really really express everybody's commitment and
> dedication...and we should show similar dedication by being there at the
> event and making the celebration as open and as free(as bibek said) as
> possible..
> *hereby I WOULD LIKE TO END THIS THREAD.
> *
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