FarCry vs. Drupal
Web Developer
I want to share a situation here.
I am just trying to create a website for one of our customer with FarCry for latest 2 weeks.
But today one of our developers used Drupal ( drupal.org) and created same site within some hours with lots of extra features.
Now I need some tips to explain situation to our boss here. What would you suggest to me as argue tips? :)
Cenk
Jeff Coughlin
> I am just trying to create a website for one of our customer
> with FarCry for latest 2 weeks. But today one of our developers
> used Drupal (drupal.org) and created same site within some
> hours with lots of extra features. Now I need some tips to
> explain situation to our boss here. What would you suggest to
> me as argue tips? :)
I decided to post a response to your question on my blog in hopes that the
information is helpful to others seeking the same information.
http://jeffcoughlin.com/blog/index.cfm/2006/12/29/FarCry-CMS-vs-Drupal-CMS
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Jeff Coughlin
Web Application Developer
http://www.jeffcoughlin.com
Hugo Ahlenius
I think it would be good netiquette to keep the responses on the list - to
have the discussion in one place - i.e. on this list so that "the
information is helpful to others seeking the same information". Even if that
means you can't plug your one blog... :)
Besides - I don't think Cenk was after a feature-by-feature comparison...
Cenk,
If what takes you weeks to do is accomplished in hours using drupal - do you
think it is the tools that differs or some other factor? Personally I think
the different systems are reasonably capable, so that your own
in-experience(?) with FarCry is pitted against your colleagues experience
(mastering?) of drupal. I think the main decision that your team and your
boss will have to decide on is what technology best captures you current and
future capital investement - primarily human and intellectual capital. If
you are a shop committed to CFML, maybe you should be sent on a FarCry
course, or you should farm out some of the site configuration to someone
skilled in the system.
For me, the main reason for me to play with FarCry is because I have years
of investement in my human capital in CFML skills (and management of CFMX/BD
server) and intellectual capital in the form of customtags, udfs and
snippets and "neighboring applications" (that could be integrated with
FarCry in the future). And that is Open Source (allowing me to
modify-tweak-adapt-contribute-integrate).
/Hugo
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Hugo Ahlenius
fraxinus (@) oxel.net
http://www.oxel.net
Web Developer
Anyway, what I want to focus is not the features. Usability and plug & play abilities. I know that he never changed any piece of code in his Drupal installation. What he did is just changing some CSS to have a same look.
When you also check modules and other features (may be not rich as in Joomla/Mambo or Typo3) but there is no need to compare any CF based CMS solution with one of these. CF solutions sucks because of lack of community support!
Anyway, I am also developing CF applications and earn my money by developing CF applications. But when you think a professional company focusing on just one solution such as CF is not always the best case. We are open for every solution which would help for our goal.
Cenk
Jeff Coughlin
> First of all I did not ask a comparison but thanks anyway.
> It would be better if you can try Drupal and compare then
> because I know you are missing lots of parts in comparison
> and features of Drupal.
You asked for tips to argue one product over the other and because Drupal
has more "lots of extra features". So to help your argument I decided to
compare those features side by side.
Now you're saying you want to compare "Usability and plug & play abilities"
which is not the same as "lots of extra features".
Maybe you should give specific examples of what it is exactly you are
looking for.
> CF solutions sucks because of lack of community support!
Well that’s a nice way to slap us in the face after trying to help you.
You're welcome?
Jeff Coughlin
> I don't think Cenk was after a feature-by-feature comparison
Actually he did ask for assistance because one product had "lots of extra
features". So I did the best I could. However, now he's asking for help
with "Usability and plug & play abilities" not whether he should choose one
product or the other due to the platform the CMS system runs on (PHP or
CFMX/BD).
Web Developer
I used to work with Perl, Php or even C for web applications and honestly I need to say that the worst community that I have ever seen is CF community. Sorry to say that and I am also not happy with this situation.
Cenk
Jeff Coughlin
> Why you get personal?
Actually I'm not. We're here trying to help you; however you seem to have a
problem with the CF community that I'm afraid I can't help you with.
> CF solutions sucks because of lack of community support!
> I need to say that the worst community that I have ever seen is CF
community.
I'm sorry you feel that way.
Web Developer
Here are some main reasons:
- Lack of modules that we need for some requirements. (Forum, blog, books taxonomity, banner management, etc.)
- Lack of customization features in FarCry. At Drupal a user can decide own design & layout and page objects.
- Community features in Drupal.
- Ability to use same login for multi sites in Drupal.
- Ability creating multi language content easily with i18N modules.
- Easy management in Drupal
etc. etc.
Am I happy now? No, absolutely not!
Cenk