Reference frames and Existence.

[sadovnik socratus]

   Reference frames and  Existence.

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There are many pretty solid theories.

How can be known which  theory  is wrong and  which  theory is true ? 

The answer depends on which reference frame  the theory is based.

The conception of reference frame  is the key to know if the theory is true one.

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 We know  many different   reference  frames

( free, open, closed , 2D, 3D, 4D, 5D, 11D,  . . .  MD . . . .  )

 

 Existence cannot begin from a complex system.

In the beginning  must be a simple model.

Therefore, I will take a  two dimensions space as the simplest model.

But there are  two kinds of two dimensions:  the Euclidean ( 2D)  space

and  Minkowski  negative Pseudo- Euclidian - 2D space.

What is possible to say about these systems ?

Which  reference frame can be taken as a basis of Existence ?

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Euclidean ( 2D)  reference frame belongs to  a gravity space

where space and time are two different substances. 

Minkowski  negative Pseudo- Euclidian - 2D has no gravity

and space and time are one and the same unite continuum.

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Later Descartes changed  Euclidean  two dimensions  into three

 dimensions  .  Living in this   Descartes  system of coordinate

 we try to understand : where did our existence come from ?

Then, in my opinion, it is logically to take Minkowski  negative

Pseudo- Euclidian - 2D ( without  gravity ) as the simplest model

 to have the searching answer.

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[Lonnie Clay]

At the minimum, you need an identity, an action, and a sequence to exist. That requires space, energy, and time. Whether energy should be considered a dimension is dependent upon whether there exists a minimum quanta of energy required for the least action operation. See :

https://sites.google.com/site/lonniecourtneyclay/home/blarney-part1-mythology

Lonnie Courtney Clay

[Craig Weinberg]

If you don't have sense, you can't discern identity. If you don't have a sense to compare and infer among sensations, there can be no action or sequence. If you begin with sense, then energy and time are two halves of the same thing, which is that sense of comparison of experiences, and space is the sense of contrast between parallel histories of experience.

Craig

[i.sadovnik socratus]

If you begin with sense,

 then energy and time are different halves of the same thing

 ( that we called  Life ), because you use your

 personal , local energy in an infinity Earth's time.

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The secret of God and Existence is hidden in ‘Quantum of Light Theory ’.

[i.sadovnik socratus]

 To understand an action we need  space, mass, energy, and time.
In philosophy of physics we have two different kinds of space
 ( Newtonian and SRT) ,  we have two different kinds of mass
 ( Newtonian and SRT) ,  we have two different kinds of energy
 ( Newtonian and SRT) ,  we have two different kinds of time
 ( Newtonian and SRT).
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[Craig Weinberg]

On Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:43:14 PM UTC-4, sadovnik socratus wrote:

If you begin with sense,
 then energy and time are different halves of the same thing

 ( that we called  Life ), because you use your

 personal , local energy in an infinity Earth's time.

I don't think that energy exists, any more than money exists. Energy is what we call the initiation of change among sensitive bodies. It's just coordinated sensory-motor interaction, just as traffic is coordinated by millions of drivers control of their cars rather than an abstract geometric field.

Energy and time are not just parts of biological life, they are measures of change across all scales and stages of development. A star's sense and motive gives us an impression of energy and time, but we don't have to jump to that conclusion. The star can be, like us, an experience which borrows its own time and energy from everything else.

Craig

 

[sadovnik socratus]

On Thursday, September 26, 2013 1:37:17 PM UTC+2, Craig Weinberg wrote:

On Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:43:14 PM UTC-4, sadovnik socratus wrote:

If you begin with sense,
 then energy and time are different halves of the same thing

 ( that we called  Life ), because you use your

 personal , local energy in an infinity Earth's time.

I don't think that energy exists, any more than money exists. Energy is what we call the initiation of change among sensitive bodies. It's just coordinated sensory-motor interaction, just as traffic is coordinated by millions of drivers control of their cars rather than an abstract geometric field.

Energy and time are not just parts of biological life, they are measures of change across all scales and stages of development. A star's sense and motive gives us an impression of energy and time, but we don't have to jump to that conclusion. The star can be, like us, an experience which borrows its own time and energy from everything else.

Craig

 

1

Nobody knows what energy is

" It is important to realize that in physics today,
we have no knowledge of what energy is.
We do not have a picture that energy comes in little
blobs of a definite amount. ”
      ( Feynman. 1987)
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According to QT everything began from quantum level / energy.

( even " We do not have a picture that energy comes in little
blobs of a definite amount. ”     Feynman. 1987)
  )

3

Your energy (of a body or a star) is a local  and exist in an infinity

Earth's or Cosmic time and therefore we have two different conceptions.

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[awori achoka]

What do you make of this?

http://m.phys.org/news/2013-09-scientists-never-before-seen.html

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[awori achoka]

In view of the above findings and our earlier discussions...could light be the original source of life forming molecules....?

[Craig Weinberg]

The use of the word 'molecule' in that story is poetic. They could also have said 'bonds of holy matrimony'. As far as I can tell all measurements of photons are by inference within material mediums (Rubidium atoms in this case) and the measuring instrument, which is made of matter also. That the conditions being created in the atomic medium have an effect which we interpret as double measurements is exciting, but it does not necessarily relate to the creation of matter or the validation of photons as freestanding particles.

[i.sadovnik socratus]

awori.achoka:  thank you for post

[sadovnik socratus]

Awori asked :

Could quantum of light be the original source of life forming atoms ?

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Answer:

Lukin said. " What we have done is create a special type of medium in which

photons interact with each other so strongly that they begin to act as though

they have mass, and they bind together to form molecules.

This type of photonic bound state has been discussed theoretically for

quite a while, but until now it hadn't been observed.

/ http://m.phys.org/news/2013-09-scientists-never-before-seen.html/

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I think they didn't create a new " special type of medium "
The cloud of rubidium atoms just a few degrees above absolute zero

can be only in superconductivity state . . . . .

then fired single photons into the cloud of superconductivity area .. . . . . .

. . . something was happened . . . .

they are binding together to form atoms. . . .

What kind of atoms can they be?

In my opinion: only atoms of helium II . . . .

? ! ? !

In my opinion:

Light Quanta can be the original source of life forming atoms.

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The behavior of photons in vacuum is deferent than in superconductivity state.

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A mark of Quantum Gravity.

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The theory of gravity must begin from quantum gravity,

But we have not theory of quantum gravity and therefore

it is possible to find many theories about this subject.

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My opinion.

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To create theory of gravity ( quantum gravity ) is needed

a mass , an energy and a reference frame where the gravity

can be created.

The reference frame is a vacuum.

The condition of mass is E=kT

The condition of energy is E=h*f

Then the process of beginning of gravitation can have scheme:

h*v = kT logW.

h*v > kT logW.

h*v < kT .

About which mass am I talking ?

At first I am talking about very strange element helium II

( because its temperature very near to absolute zero ) and

then about the second layer helium I.

Later this system begins to revolve.

And again the revolving helium is very different from

all another liquids. Helium II rotates as a solid body

( hard elastic tourniquets) !

As result of this revolving the hydrogen was created.

The scheme:

h*v -- - > He II - - > He I -- - > H ( +70%) -- - >

He (ordinary +20% ) --- - > the remainder is about 2%

Explanation about behavior of helium were given by

P. Kapitza , L. Landau and E.L. Andronikashvili .

( Superconductivity, superfluidity. . . . etc )

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The process of quantum gravity can go only when the mass

of helium II is gathered in Avogadro's number of particles

( in a local place )

And when Helium II rotates it must create

Loschmidt's number of particles in a given volume.

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The process of gathering Loschmidt's number of particles in

a given volume cannot be often action. Therefore we can read

that: '' All the matter that we can see, however, appears to be

no more than about 4% of the total masses. More than 90% in

the Universe is unseen - dark matter ''.

It is primary conditions of quantum gravity in my opinion.

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Best wishes.

Israel Sadovnik Socratus

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[awori achoka]

Noted, with interest.

 

 

Committed to strategic visioning and the state of our nationhood.

On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 12:41 PM, sadovnik socratus <is.so...@gmail.com> wrote:

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