Impark (Imperial Parking) and City Collections
His Divine Shadow
> Has anybody had the displeasure of dealing with Impark and City
> collections?
>
> At one time they had no right to collect anything from you and that
> was the law. Has this changed in the last 10 years?
Not that I am aware of. We used to find novel ways of shredding the silly
notices they used to send to us in Calgary.
> Does any body have any horror stories of victories to share before I
> do battle with them?
My only real victory, other than never having to pay the 600 dollars they
said I owed them, was to move my car about 80 seconds before it was towed
from a spot in downtown Calgary. Once they've towed your car to their lot,
your screwed.
--
VVV
His Shadow
As Ernie Kovacs once said, TV is a medium, because its not rare nor is it
well done.
Brian Sanderson
the guy in front of me and he got mine!
However...as he DID pay my fine (so said IMpark), I felt obligated to pay
his...
...and we WERE both illegally parked (regular commercial spaces closed for
re-paving...darn)
Registered User
*ahem*
I work for Imperial Parking. The truth is, the majority of the people
never bother to buy a parking ticket on a PRIVATE lot in the first
place. And the majority of places are ONLY $1 per hour.
There are two types of machines used on all lots.
The 300 series machines are those that take coins and push them in and
you get the serialized numbers. These machine NEVER get coin jams.
They are perfect. However, most people wonder just how do we tell the
time? Easy. We check the lots every half hour and take the test
tickets and log them. Then we come back and take another test ticket.
After that, we check ALL cars whose serial number is LESS than the
FIRST ticket logged, you're expired. If the car is on our tow list,
you're towed immediately.
The 400 series machines are those that gives out time on the ticket.
They are digitized. The machines are vulnerable to coin jams. But
most of the time, they do work. Most people are just so cheap and
weasel their way to get free parking. They just don't realize that we
DO visit the lots and check the machines all the time. Again, we
check the lot every half hour. And if machines work and you leave a
note saying that you've "put in money and no ticket!" or the lame ol'
excuse "machine does not work!" you get a ticket. Again, if you're on
our tow list, you're towed immediately.
There are a few of us, like me, don't like to tow you poor schmucks
and have you stranded. I'm nice enough to leave the car there. BUT,
if our tow lists says you have like 10 OUTSTANDING violations you
don't seem to care and take advantage of our nice attitude, we quickly
transform to become the Dr. Evil and call our buddy-tow-truck. Once
they received our call, they warp speed their way through traffic and
snatch your car.
The truth is, nearly 90 percent of you don't want to pay. Too lazy
and too cheap. Before working for Impark, I've always paid for my
parking. Why should I let other people go when others have paid their
share of the parking on a private lot?
To save yourself the trouble, just buy a ticket. A $1 per hour ticket
or $4 flat fee ticket is better than a $35 penalty ticket or worse...
$75 tow.
I've heard all the lame old excuses:
"I was here only 2 mins.." - whatever, I was sitting in the car for 20
mins and I saw you parked there longer than that.
"I didn't have change.." - the 400 machines take credit cards and the
300 machines take quarters, loonies and toonies. AND the majority of
the population, people DO carry changes that are at least a loonie and
four quarters.
"can you let me go just this once?" - buddy, you don't remember do
you? You've asked me that over 20 times in the past week already.
"but I didn't see the sign..." - lady, the sign is over 6ft tall and
4 ft wide with legible prints. Pullllleeeeze. And showing your boobs
and shaking them won't help you. Compare to my wife, you're just a
cheap skank. Or as my friend would say, "unless you're growing
9-inches down below I'll let you go...you're still gonna get a
ticket."
"I was here only 5 mins to get coffee..." - uh-huh...and does the sign
specifically say 'Free Parking for coffee???'...
Cops off-duty flipping out their badges are no exceptions either.
Puuuullleezze. I'm not intimidated. You're on private property, on
MY turf, on MY time. You've parked here to go for donuts, and not pay
for parking ticket? You get a ticket. Yes, cop cars get ticketed
too. And the comments and reasons for ticketing would be: "No valid
pass or parking ticket purchased. Abuse of authority while off-duty."
You'll be amaze just how fast the cops started buying tickets while
off-duty when they've got yelled at by their own Chief.
Hospitals, ALL hospitals are pay-parking... the philosophy is, if you
are walking or conscious, you can pay for parking. UNLESS, you are a
patient admitted to Intensive Care Unit. Otherwise, you would still
have to pay. This does not come down from Impark, rather, the
LANDLORD of the lot who've contracted it out to Impark. So please,
enough about the whining and lame ol' excuses, we've heard it all.
So pullleeeze. Don't hate us Imparks. Hate yourself to begin with.
Too cheap and too lazy to buy just even $1 (loonie) per hour ticket or
$2 (toonie). The signs are there and legible. If the machines don't
work, call the number have your car registered with us. We have
wireless palm pilots that tells all of us checking the lots are legit.
If you're not on the list, and you're on the lot WITHOUT a ticket,
you are ticketed. If you're on our tow list, you are towed
immediately.
How do you get on the tow list? Simple, you don't pay any of your
outstanding tickets, we tow you.
Again, save yourself the trouble from the penalty ticket or even a tow
(which is the WORSE), just buy a parking ticket.
Cheers.
Richard
Registered User wrote:"Brian Sanderson" <bria...@hotmail.com>
.................Too cheap and too lazy to buy just even $1 (loonie) per hour ticket or$2
(toonie)...........
You are wrong. Not cheap. Not lazy. It is a matter of way you look at things and situations.
Look at downtown.
Why I should pay for a parking to do business downtown? If a company or a professional wants my
business, than they should have a free parking.
In my opinion it is a plain stupidity to tax (paid parking) a person for supporting "your" downtown
business.
>
the JarHead
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Why would you whine about paying for parking downtown, when you can open the
phone book and find another business who does not have its offices in the
downtown core where you know you will have to pay for parking!
the JarHead
Richard
> You need to discuss this issue with city hall, not an employee of Impark!
I had no intention to discuss anything with Impark. (Not the same wave lenghts).
> Why would you whine about paying for parking downtown, when you can open the
> phone book and find another business who does not have its offices in the
> downtown core where you know you will have to pay for parking! the JarHead
100%. This is what I do for more than 10 years.
Also, I did not whine.
I pointed out, that a paid parking is an excellent way to redirect a number of
people to a competition outside the downtown core. I'm an example. My last time
downtown was about 3 years ago, and I went there only because there was no other
choice.
A common sense would be, to allow free parking at any possible spot and manner
(eg. at an angle with front wheels on sidewalk), in order to bring as many
people as possible, to what is basically a dead downtown.
the JarHead
was using public transport, I use the theatres in the downtown core, and the
food court once in a while. Other than that, I have no need for any
businesses that would not provide me with some sort of relief from the
burden of parking in a downtown location!
There is currently ONE street in the downtown core that utilizes the angle
parking, there was obviously no planning for expansion when the downtown
core was first developed! Again, this brings City Hall into the picture!
They have 12-14 million dollars to spend on the concreting of the Churchill
Square, but couldn't bother to spend money on cleaning up the downtown
buildings... Let's get on the backs of the owners of the Bay building, there
is pigeon shit and garbage all over the place there. The building itself is
filthy, and needs a good washing!
the JarHead
Sharx.
I fully agree. I studiously avoid dealing with business which DON'T provide
"free" parking. However, that is NOT Imperial's fault. They are hired by the
owner of the PROPERTY, NOT by the adjacent businesses, to manage the
parking.
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Sharx.
"Registered User" <register...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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But, what IF the machine IS really broken or jammed?
His Divine Shadow
>> Again, save yourself the trouble from the penalty ticket or even a tow
>> (which is the WORSE), just buy a parking ticket.
>>
>> Cheers.
>
> But, what IF the machine IS really broken or jammed?
But what if Sharx is a fucking dimbulb who reposts 1046 words of text to add
a single line?
--
VVV
His Shadow
There are all sorts of things that would be comforting. I expect an
injection of morphine would be comforting... But to say that something is
comforting is not to say that it's true.
Richard Dawkins
DigitalReign
on my car (and scratched the paint in the process) so i politely went to the
guy and told him and showed him the ticket and pointed at the clock on the
building that read 4 minutes over the time expiry, and he laughed at me and
told me "sux to be you buddy" so i took out of my trunk a pair of super
heavy duty bolt cutters (which didnt quite do the job) and worked away on
the lock, when i was almost through the lock i took a pry bar and a
hydraulic jack and jacked it the rest of the way (mangling the boot) then i
took it over to the guy and he said "hey im charging you with destruction of
property" and called the Toronto police. after a couple min of waiting i
decided i wasnt going to wait and decided i would get in my car and leave.
then this guy jumps in front of my vehicle so as i wouldnt be able to leave.
so i got out of my vehicle and i beat the living hell outa that pimply
headed meter maiding parking guy. and as he laid there bleeding i yelled at
him "laugh it up now asshole" and he started crying.
A few days later the police came and charged me with assault. i showed up in
court and the guy was there with his teeth in a jar and stitched up face
and he was saying "your gonna get yours" and i couldnt help but to laugh at
his lispy whine.
to make a long story short i got away with it,
so for all you little weasly pimply headed pecker heads who work for impark
or any other bullshit company that rents parking spaces all im going to say
is
you better watch out who you laugh at it may be your last (with all your
natural teeth anyways) ;-)
Sharx.
"His Divine Shadow" <hiss...@bigmailbox.net> wrote in message
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> Sharx., a Minor Heretic Disloyal to His Shadow, Pled Thusly...
>
>
> >> Again, save yourself the trouble from the penalty ticket or even a tow
> >> (which is the WORSE), just buy a parking ticket.
> >>
> >> Cheers.
> >
> > But, what IF the machine IS really broken or jammed?
>
> But what if Sharx is a fucking dimbulb who reposts 1046 words of text to
add
> a single line?
And what IF DS actually has even ONE PER CENT human DNA?
Sharx.
"DigitalReign" <murderou...@telus.net> wrote in message
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You stepped over the line when YOU over reacted by laying on that degree of
sh*t kicking on him. Someone standing in front of your vehicle does NOT
merit that. However, he WAS a total a**hole, too. BOTH of you merit Darwin's
Law. You, for being a Neanderthal redneck and him, for putting that much
importance into what is essentially a ''Mc" job.
>
>
John Fleming
scriptorium, "Sharx." <sha...@nospam.com> wrote:
> $"DigitalReign" <murderou...@telus.net> wrote in message
> $news:W5xe9.5024$Qx1.1...@news1.telusplanet.net...
[lots of good stuff snipped]
> $You stepped over the line when YOU over reacted by laying on that degree of
> $sh*t kicking on him. Someone standing in front of your vehicle does NOT
> $merit that. However, he WAS a total a**hole, too. BOTH of you merit Darwin's
> $Law. You, for being a Neanderthal redneck and him, for putting that much
> $importance into what is essentially a ''Mc" job.
You're absolutely right sharx.
Both these guys stepped wa-a-a-a-ay over the line.
Putting a boot on a car because it is only three minutes over on
the parking time limit is extreme in the least.
At the same time, that sort of idiocy doesn't merit having the
living daylights beaten out of him.
Based on the story as told, the way I see it, Digital Reign
should have been hit with a conditional sentence and the pimply
faced Impark employee should have been canned.
--
John Fleming
Edmonton, Canada
A Dreamer is One Who Can Only Find Her
Way by Moonlight.
-- Oscar Wilde
Ramtha
"Sharx." <sha...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> "His Divine Shadow" <hiss...@bigmailbox.net> wrote in message
> news:B99FF8F6.1241E%hiss...@bigmailbox.net...
> > Sharx., a Minor Heretic Disloyal to His Shadow, Pled Thusly...
> >
> >
> > >> Again, save yourself the trouble from the penalty ticket or even a
tow
> > >> (which is the WORSE), just buy a parking ticket.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers.
> > >
> > > But, what IF the machine IS really broken or jammed?
> >
> > But what if Sharx is a fucking dimbulb who reposts 1046 words of text to
> add
> > a single line?
>
> And what IF DS actually has even ONE PER CENT human DNA?
>
What if Sharx used his supposed Mensa intellect to come up with an actual
witty response.
And in rebuttal to your oncoming stupidity, Sharx. I know you are but what
am I? Or am I giving away the fact that I am HDS?
DigitalReign
werent there. Maybe the lil bastard didnt deserve the shit kicking i gave
him and maybe i should have been convicted, however the morals of the story
are.
1. You should never abuse or exploit someone or something because you can.
2. You should never underestimate your opponent
3. You should never laugh at someone who is obviously having a shity day,
had his vehicle "secured" when he pleasantly asks you to overlook the 3
MINUTE parking violation especially if hes 6'1" 270lb and covered in ink
and more than willing and capable of ripping your limbs off and shoving
them up your ass ;-)
DigitalReign
conclude that i am a redneck I AM NOT A REDNECK
and i hope you will just take my word for it
John Fleming
scriptorium, "DigitalReign" <murderou...@telus.net> wrote:
> $Well i suppose your both right in a way, and ill accept that. But you guys
> $werent there. Maybe the lil bastard didnt deserve the shit kicking i gave
> $him and maybe i should have been convicted, however the morals of the story
> $are.
You're absolutely right, we weren't there.
That said, our laws are there to protect people from physical
abuse--even if they are little Hitlers who haven't learned to not
throw their weight around.
I suppose, if anything, the Impark meter maid will think twice
about throwing his weight around next time he is ticketing a car
and some huge hunk of a guy shows up to argue things. (Assuming,
of course, he is still working for the company.)
--
John Fleming
Edmonton, Canada
Go not to the technical writers for counsel,
for they will tell you to RTFM.
- Anon.
Sharx.
> Although my present and possibly unsavory appearance may lead one to
> conclude that i am a redneck I AM NOT A REDNECK
>
> and i hope you will just take my word for it
If it WALKS like a duck, and if it QUACKS like a duck, chances are.........
>
>
>
>
Buddy Revelle
Or you will take me out behind your leaning one car garage under the
powerlines and slam the rusty trunk lid of your 59 Ford on my head
until I squeal like a pig?
the JarHead
wrote:
>
>You're absolutely right sharx.
>
>Both these guys stepped wa-a-a-a-ay over the line.
>
>Putting a boot on a car because it is only three minutes over on
>the parking time limit is extreme in the least.
>
>At the same time, that sort of idiocy doesn't merit having the
>living daylights beaten out of him.
>
>Based on the story as told, the way I see it, Digital Reign
>should have been hit with a conditional sentence and the pimply
>faced Impark employee should have been canned.
Based on 'the Story', we have only heard one side of... Every Story
has two sides, maybe Digital had a pile of unpaid tickets already, and
was trying to get out of paying them off!?
the JarHead
John Fleming
scriptorium, the JarHead <jarm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> $On Sat, 07 Sep 2002 19:25:51 -0600, John Fleming <nos...@sprynet.com>
> $wrote:
> $>
> $>You're absolutely right sharx.
> $>
> $>Both these guys stepped wa-a-a-a-ay over the line.
> $>
> $>Putting a boot on a car because it is only three minutes over on
> $>the parking time limit is extreme in the least.
> $>
> $>At the same time, that sort of idiocy doesn't merit having the
> $>living daylights beaten out of him.
> $>
> $>Based on the story as told, the way I see it, Digital Reign
> $>should have been hit with a conditional sentence and the pimply
> $>faced Impark employee should have been canned.
> $
> $ Based on 'the Story', we have only heard one side of... Every Story
> $has two sides, maybe Digital had a pile of unpaid tickets already, and
> $was trying to get out of paying them off!?
That's possible too.
However, in attempting to force such an issue, the Impark
employee was tempting fate and really needs to learn to show a
bit more judgement.
To use an analogy, as a pedestrial, I have the right of way when
I am in a crosswalk. I'd be stupid trying to argue the matter
with a car that is barelling through the intersection in excess
of the posted speed limit.
That said, Digital clearly stepped over the boundry by beating
said employee (by his own admission) to a pulp.
Sharx.
"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
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Agreed. However, the law would require the driver of that vehicle to do
everything possible to avoid hitting you, even if you WEREN'T in the
crosswalk.
Sharx.
"Buddy Revelle" <brev...@thebig.house> wrote in message
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Simultaneously, he'd be buttplugging you with his syphilitic excuse of a
knob.
>
>
His Divine Shadow
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> "His Divine Shadow" <hiss...@bigmailbox.net> wrote in message
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>> Sharx., a Minor Heretic Disloyal to His Shadow, Pled Thusly...
>>
>>
>>>> Again, save yourself the trouble from the penalty ticket or even a tow
>>>> (which is the WORSE), just buy a parking ticket.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers.
>>>
>>> But, what IF the machine IS really broken or jammed?
>>
>> But what if Sharx is a fucking dimbulb who reposts 1046 words of text to add
>> a single line?
>
> And what IF DS actually has even ONE PER CENT human DNA?
...it makes me that much more of a sentient being than you, slug.
--
VVV
His Shadow
Religious people split into three main groups when faced with science. I
shall label them the "know-nothings", the "know-alls", and the "no-contests"
...
Richard Dawkins
John Fleming
scriptorium, "Sharx." <sha...@nospam.com> wrote:
> $"John Fleming" <nos...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
> $news:2rannu4lpng9oqh1c...@4ax.com...
> $> To use an analogy, as a pedestrial, I have the right of way when
> $> I am in a crosswalk. I'd be stupid trying to argue the matter
> $> with a car that is barelling through the intersection in excess
> $> of the posted speed limit.
> $
> $Agreed. However, the law would require the driver of that vehicle to do
> $everything possible to avoid hitting you, even if you WEREN'T in the
> $crosswalk.
However, that isn't going to be much consolation if the act of
standing up for your rights as a pedestrian results in your
untimely demise.
--
John Fleming
Edmonton, Canada
Go not to the technical writers for counsel,
Brian Sanderson
"Registered User" <register...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > I had an experience as a Courier similar to Peter's. I got the ticket
for
> > the guy in front of me and he got mine!
> >
> > However...as he DID pay my fine (so said IMpark), I felt obligated to
pay
> > his...
> >
> > ...and we WERE both illegally parked (regular commercial spaces closed
for
> > re-paving...darn)
>
> *ahem*
>
> I work for Imperial Parking. The truth is, the majority of the people
> never bother to buy a parking ticket on a PRIVATE lot in the first
> place. And the majority of places are ONLY $1 per hour.
>
> and too cheap. Before working for Impark, I've always paid for my
> parking. Why should I let other people go when others have paid their
> share of the parking on a private lot?
>
> "I was here only 2 mins.." - whatever, I was sitting in the car for 20
> mins and I saw you parked there longer than that.
Ummmm....
In my own defense...I really WAS only there for two minutes...I later
estimated the IMpark employee must have begun the ticket printing process
THE MOMENT I LEFT MY VEHICLE...was in such a hurry, she switched 'em...
...shame on me for getting back in 90 seconds instead of 30...
TTFN...
Brad
> > get free parking :-)
> 1 person sees you, makes note of it, and you are charged with willful
damage to private property.
> It's not worth it. Even it it works, you can only use it once.
Unlikley. Nobody is gonna know if you have a coin or gum in your hand when
you walk up to the machine
If you really want to mess the machine up, spray in a bunch of that mono
expanding foam until it comes right up to the slot. lol
parker
foad sharx you obviously have no clue as to what a redneck is
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parker
> Although my present and possibly unsavory appearance may lead one to
> conclude that i am a redneck I AM NOT A REDNECK
another asshole who has no clue as to what makes a man a redneck
Sharx.
<ttu...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message news:5W1f9.2051$i%.515872@localhost...
> Registered User (register...@hotmail.com) wrote:
> : "Brian Sanderson" <bria...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> : > I had an experience as a Courier similar to Peter's. I got the ticket
for
> : > the guy in front of me and he got mine!
> : >
> : > However...as he DID pay my fine (so said IMpark), I felt obligated to
pay
> : > his...
>
>
> : I work for Imperial Parking. The truth is, the majority of the people
> : never bother to buy a parking ticket on a PRIVATE lot in the first
> : place. And the majority of places are ONLY $1 per hour.
> : I've heard all the lame old excuses:
> <snip>
>
> --> How's this? I go to the lot (dunno who owns it) across from the
> Bank of Hong Kong; to take my Mother to the eye doctor one block
> over; finally find a spot I can fit my van in; walk over to the
> machine; figure it'll be at least 2 & a half hours, press the
> appropriate buttons and the last quarter won't `take' (ie: the
> machine won't accept it. OK, I'll try the other two quarters I
> happen to have in my change - no go for them, either. The
> machine is patiently awaiting that last quarter, but all three
> quarters are rejected. I don't have enough dimes & nickles to
> make-up that last 25 cents, time is running out (late for the
> appointment and my elderly Mother is running out of steam for
> standing); but I recall a couple of quarters kept in the ashtray
> for just this purpose - run back to the van, get them, and WHAT
> THE FUCK? The machine has gone back to ZERO, with NONE of my
> money returned and no fucking ticket produced. Now ain't that
> sweet! Not. I say fuck it, run back, lock the van and trundle
> off with Mother to her appointment. I'll deal with those sleazy
> bastards, when I get back, if required. Two hours later, we're
> back at the van; no ticket, and off we go. I can't begin to tell
> you the kind of grief I would've given the car-ransom company,
> if there HAD been a ticket. As it is - what I did pay probably
> was roughly equivalent to the length of time I was in that lot;
> with the sleazy bastards getting the better of the deal - and
> that's even before one adds-in the annoyance/frustration factors
> I was forced to go through. Phone, you must be joking! Do you
> think _everyone_ has a cell phone? I don't. Or a pen/pencil,
> or even a piece of paper to write down some number on? Not me.
> Sure - me not having paper/pen or cell phone ain't YOUR fault;
> however, your crappy machine not taking my coinage, isn't MY
> fault. As to a dollar an hour? BULLSHIT!!! The downtown lots
> charge closer to $2.50 per HALF-hour. None of this dollar an
> hour fantasy, Mr. Impark stooge. Cry all you want - you guys
> have earned your `Rep', by charging the usurious amounts you
> charge to hold our vehicles captive on your lots and with no
> responsibility for anything, either, including common courtesy.
> Fuck YOU and your whining. I pay when I park on pay lots; but
> don't expect me to be sympathetic to you or your bosses, for
> screwing every last cent out of me while I do business in the
> same city you live and work in. And fix your crappy machines,
> while you chuckle all the way to the bank, asshole...
Uh, getting any?
>
> --
> E.A.G.L.E Librarian A3 BBS:403/481-3133 email:ttu...@ecn.ab.ca
Sharx.
"parker" <par...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Time to rephrase. Annoying as that wannabe parking lot cop was, :YOU went
way, WAY out of line. If you had simply shoved him, fine, but what you did
verges on attempted murder. Now, back to redneck. You're just a common
criminal, using your weight and size to get your way. Rednecks, on the other
hand, have a proud heritage in this neck of the woods: by working outside
for extended periods of time, the sun leaves them with....red necks. No
crime in working outside.
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Sharx.
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> "DigitalReign" <murderou...@telus.net> wrote in message
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> > Although my present and possibly unsavory appearance may lead one to
> > conclude that i am a redneck I AM NOT A REDNECK
>
>
> another asshole who has no clue as to what makes a man a redneck
I note that you have YET to tell us what YOU think a redneck is.
parker
thanks for setting the record straight
Pete
information? Why does Impark have access to your name, address and
phone number with just your license plate number? In my battle with
Impark I asked the government that question. They said that "Impark has
access to information". This stinks.
Pete
SUSE
When you register your vehicle,
tell them that you work for the city or province,
that way there is no address connected to your liscense plate information.
Registered User
> Registered User wrote:"Brian Sanderson" <bria...@hotmail.com>
>
> .................Too cheap and too lazy to buy just even $1 (loonie) per hour ticket or$2
> (toonie)...........
>
> You are wrong. Not cheap. Not lazy. It is a matter of way you look at things and situations.
> Look at downtown.
> Why I should pay for a parking to do business downtown? If a company or a professional wants my
> business, than they should have a free parking.
> In my opinion it is a plain stupidity to tax (paid parking) a person for supporting "your" downtown
> business.
>
>
> >
"Why I should pay for a parking to do business downtown?" YOU are
wrong. YOU ARE CHEAP. If you are a BUSINESSMAN, you can simply use
the ticket and write-off as BUSINESS EXPENSE. EVERY Business person
KNOWS this.
What a LAME-ASS excuse. CHEAP ASS.
Sharx.
IF you have a business and IF you are downtown ON BUSINESS, yes, it is
deductible come tax time. However, for the great majority of parkers
downtown, this is NOT the case. So lay off the preaching.
gap...@vcn.bc.ca
RU> "Why I should pay for a parking to do business downtown?" YOU are
RU> wrong. YOU ARE CHEAP. If you are a BUSINESSMAN, you can simply use
RU> the ticket and write-off as BUSINESS EXPENSE. EVERY Business person
RU> KNOWS this.
RU>
RU> What a LAME-ASS excuse. CHEAP ASS.
What ARE you trying to say?!? :P
_I_ am not a businessman -- if I am downtown, it is to visit a business down
there -- why aren't they begging me to "PICK ME!" by providing free parking?
(Yes, I know the City or Impark runs the billing end of things, but the
businesses could re-imburse(e.g. by giving one the exact dollar value of
pay parking stub cost as a discount) and, if the best option is an Impark lot,
then the business could pay Impark for some spaces for their use only (and
provide customers with a ticket stub to prove they were in the right business
establishment for the parking space they used!)
What is WITH Canadian business?!? They have ZERO interest, it seems, in
appearing INVITING to customers! No wonder more and more people are willing to
go through the border line-ups and hassles, so their few shopping dollars will
be respected/appreciated!) :P
Your friend,
<+]::-{(} ("Cyberpope," the Bishop of ROM!)
Ask me how to connect with me in any of 5 Instant Messengers
(Please quote with "gapope wrote...")
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In essentials, unity;
In non-essentials, liberty;
in all things, charity. -- Baxter quoting Augustine
-=-
Gavin Grandish
: there -- why aren't they begging me to "PICK ME!" by providing free parking?
Why should they? Should they reimburse people for their bus or cab fare
too?
If they provided free parking (which is horrendously expensive
downtown) then their prices go up. All their customers who have the good
sense to leave the car at home end up subsidizing the moron who insists on
bringing his car with him. Not to mention that the higher prices that
would result would make the business less competitive and *discourage*
people from shopping there. I, for one, do not want to pay for someone
else's expensive downtown parking stall. Pay for your own if you insist on
bringing the car.
Why do you want to take a car downtown anyway? It is simple to get
downtown on transit from anywhere in the city, including from most of the
suburbs. Taking a car downtown is idiotic.
: (Yes, I know the City or Impark runs the billing end of things, but the
: businesses could re-imburse(e.g. by giving one the exact dollar value of
: pay parking stub cost as a discount)
So let's assume parking costs $1.50 per hour. I park the car, go
into the Starbucks, and buy a large coffee for $1.75, and chat with a
friend for an hour. I expect Starbucks to pay for my parking, so I pay
them a quarter for my coffee. Meanwhile the guy who walks in off the
street pays the full $1.75 for the same coffee. Good business
practice? I think not.
: and, if the best option is an Impark lot,
: then the business could pay Impark for some spaces for their use only (and
: provide customers with a ticket stub to prove they were in the right business
: establishment for the parking space they used!)
See above.
fly...@shaw.ca
Gavin Grandish wrote:
> : _I_ am not a businessman -- if I am downtown, it is to visit a business down
> : there -- why aren't they begging me to "PICK ME!" by providing free parking?
>
> Why should they? Should they reimburse people for their bus or cab fare
> too?
>
> If they provided free parking (which is horrendously expensive
> downtown) then their prices go up. All their customers who have the good
> sense to leave the car at home end up subsidizing the moron who insists on
> bringing his car with him. Not to mention that the higher prices that
> would result would make the business less competitive and *discourage*
> people from shopping there. I, for one, do not want to pay for someone
> else's expensive downtown parking stall. Pay for your own if you insist on
> bringing the car.
>
And you've just proven the point why downtown is absolutely dead anytime after
5:05 pm on weekdays and dead all weekend.
Why the fuck would I pay for parking downtown when you can go to any other part
of the city and park for free?!?
Businesses have to entice customers, not the other way around.
You want my business, you provide me with the service and ease of use. It's why I
shop at Kingsway Garden Mall instead of going to Edmonton Centre.
Edmonton Centre loses my business because of that.
And as long as business have the exact same attitude as above, downtown will never
be busy in the evenings.
>
> Why do you want to take a car downtown anyway? It is simple to get
> downtown on transit from anywhere in the city, including from most of the
> suburbs. Taking a car downtown is idiotic.
>
Transporting books. Transporting packages. Easier to go grocery shopping.
Shopping downtown is idiotic.
>
> :
Sharx.
"Gavin Grandish" <gran...@interchange.ubc.ca> wrote in message
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Those of us who have a LIFE, do NOT have the time to take the bus or LRT
downtown, walk or transfer to where are going etc etc.. Driving saves time.
If a business doesn't provide free parking, I DON"T deal with it, as long as
have a choice.
removethis Skyman
<sha...@nospam.com> wrote:
More good news re: Imperial Parking aka Impark
They have apparently been selected to operate the new B.C.Ferries parking
lot at Horseshoe Bay.The daily parking fee is going to be around $21-22 a
day.
You'll be better off taking your car with you!
--
Delete (removethis) from my address to reply.
Littlelamb
"Gavin Grandish" <gran...@interchange.ubc.ca> wrote in message
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down
> : there -- why aren't they begging me to "PICK ME!" by providing free
parking?
>
> Why should they? Should they reimburse people for their bus or cab fare
> too?
>
> If they provided free parking (which is horrendously expensive
> downtown) then their prices go up. All their customers who have the good
> sense to leave the car at home end up subsidizing the moron who insists on
> bringing his car with him. Not to mention that the higher prices that
> would result would make the business less competitive and *discourage*
> people from shopping there. I, for one, do not want to pay for someone
> else's expensive downtown parking stall. Pay for your own if you insist on
> bringing the car.
>
> Why do you want to take a car downtown anyway? It is simple to get
> downtown on transit from anywhere in the city, including from most of the
> suburbs. Taking a car downtown is idiotic.
>
make the trip. I don't want to hop onto a bus after receiving dental
treatment. I don't want people staring at my drooping, drooling mouth.
Gavin G
: And you've just proven the point why downtown is absolutely dead
: anytime after 5:05 pm on weekdays and dead all weekend.
So what other part of the city is liveiler than downtown in the evening?
I don't know about Edmonton but here in Vancouver, downtown is much
busier at 10PM any night of the week than any other part of the city.
Ever been to Robson Street on a weekend?
: Why the fuck would I pay for parking downtown when you can go to any
: other part of the city and park for free?!?
: Businesses have to entice customers, not the other way around.
Exactly. Downtown businessess serve me just fine by not raising their
prices to pay for the free parking of others.
If it were profitable for downtown businesses to provide free parking
for their customers, then they would do it. But they don't. It's
because downtown parking costs too much for them to make their money back
on it. They would lose more money providing the parking than they would
get back by any increase in customers. That's why they don't. It
doesn't make good business sense.
Gavin G
: Those of us who have a LIFE, do NOT have the time to take the bus or
: LRT downtown, walk or transfer to where are going etc etc.. Driving
: saves time.
Ha! Last time I took my car downtown the parking situation
was so bad that it took me 20 minutes to find a parking spot, $5 to pay
for the spot, and another 20 minutes walking back to where I wanted to
be. I could have saved a hell of a lot more time and money by
taking the bus in the first place. A car downtown is like a ball and
chain attached to your ankle.
: If a business doesn't provide free parking, I DON"T deal with it, as
: long as I have a choice.
Good, stay away from downtown then. The less cars downtown, the
better. And I'll be happy when shopping at that downtown establishment
that a cut of my purchase doesn't go to pay for some other moron
customer's expensive parking space.
Sharx.
"Gavin G" <nos...@nospam.ro> wrote in message
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You still doing your sister? Yes or no.
Sharx.
"Peter Schroeder" <pete...@despammed.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 17:26:34 -0700, skyman@(removethis)vcn.bc.ca
> (Skyman) wrote:
>
> >More good news re: Imperial Parking aka Impark
> >They have apparently been selected to operate the new B.C.Ferries parking
> >lot at Horseshoe Bay.The daily parking fee is going to be around $21-22 a
> >day.
> >You'll be better off taking your car with you!
>
> a stupid price but your parking runs out at midnight so parking there
> has gone from $12 for 24 hours to $48/24 hours(overnight stay).
>
> No wonder they have their own collections department.
>
> Way to go BC Ferries!!! See how they run.
Any bets that Imperial Parking contributes heavily to the BC LIEberals?
>
>
>
Red Corsair
Minister responsible for BC Ferries.
In article <vhvnou0fioboaem3t...@4ax.com>, Peter
Schroeder <pete...@despammed.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 17:26:34 -0700, skyman@(removethis)vcn.bc.ca
> (Skyman) wrote:
>
> >More good news re: Imperial Parking aka Impark
> >They have apparently been selected to operate the new B.C.Ferries parking
> >lot at Horseshoe Bay.The daily parking fee is going to be around $21-22 a
> >day.
> >You'll be better off taking your car with you!
>
John Fleming
scriptorium, Gavin G <nos...@nospam.ro> wrote:
> $In article <3D8BADE1...@shaw.ca>, fly...@shaw.ca wrote:
> $
> $: And you've just proven the point why downtown is absolutely dead
> $: anytime after 5:05 pm on weekdays and dead all weekend.
> $
> $So what other part of the city is liveiler than downtown in the evening?
> $I don't know about Edmonton but here in Vancouver, downtown is much
> $busier at 10PM any night of the week than any other part of the city.
> $Ever been to Robson Street on a weekend?
Downtown Edmonton late at night is pretty quiet, though with
developments like "Railtown" and the proposed Condo/ Office/
Retail complex just north of the CN Tower, I wouldn't be
surprised if this changes.
Developments like these mean more people will be living in or
near the downtown core.
> $: Why the fuck would I pay for parking downtown when you can go to any
> $: other part of the city and park for free?!?
> $: Businesses have to entice customers, not the other way around.
> $
> $Exactly. Downtown businessess serve me just fine by not raising their
> $prices to pay for the free parking of others.
Ditto.
I live near the downtown core, and as long as I am not buying
medium sized consumer appliances like microwave ovens, I really
don't need my car.
If I plan to do a lot of shopping, I can tote a lot of my
purchases around in a good old fashioned knapsack.
> $If it were profitable for downtown businesses to provide free parking
> $for their customers, then they would do it. But they don't. It's
> $because downtown parking costs too much for them to make their money back
> $on it. They would lose more money providing the parking than they would
> $get back by any increase in customers. That's why they don't. It
> $doesn't make good business sense.
Here in Edmonton, at least some of the downtown parking is
cheaper during the evenings. During the day, the library parkade
costs something like $0.90 per half hour up to a maximum of
$8.00. After 6:00 P.M., you can park for the whole evening for
only $2.00. That's heated underground parking.
Compare that with the outdoor unheated parking at the Jubilee
Auditorium. Parking there for the evening is $3.00.
--
John Fleming
Edmonton, Canada
Don't be afraid to take a big step, you can't
cross a chasm in two small jumps.
- David Lloyd George
Zipperhead
sha...@nospam.com says...
>
>
>
>Those of us who have a LIFE, do NOT have the time to take the bus or LRT
>downtown, walk or transfer to where are going etc etc.. Driving saves time.
>If a business doesn't provide free parking, I DON"T deal with it, as long
as
>have a choice.
>
I took the bus once. What a bad experience.
It was full of trailer trash, pimps, dope addicts
and tax accountants.
Sharx.
"Zipperhead" <wa...@compusmart.ab.ca> wrote in message
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In ascending order, naturally.
>
Gavin Grandish
: and tax accountants.
I hate Greyhound too.
John Fleming
scriptorium, Gavin Grandish <gran...@interchange.ubc.ca> wrote:
> $: I took the bus once. What a bad experience.
> $: It was full of trailer trash, pimps, dope addicts
> $: and tax accountants.
> $
> $I hate Greyhound too.
Actually, a late night Greyhound can be a nice mode of transport.
Catch is, you need to get a bus that leaves at a time people
aren't likely to be catching it--like 1:00 AM.
--
John Fleming
Edmonton, Canada
I have found a ver great number of
exceedingly beautiful theorems.
P. Fermat
I have discovered a truly remarkable
proof which this margin is too small
to contain.
P. Fermat
His Divine Shadow
9/22/02 12:20
> On 22 Sep 2002 06:48:36 GMT, while chained to a desk in the
> scriptorium, Gavin Grandish <gran...@interchange.ubc.ca> wrote:
>
>> $: I took the bus once. What a bad experience.
>> $: It was full of trailer trash, pimps, dope addicts
>> $: and tax accountants.
>> $
>> $I hate Greyhound too.
>
> Actually, a late night Greyhound can be a nice mode of transport.
>
> Catch is, you need to get a bus that leaves at a time people
> aren't likely to be catching it--like 1:00 AM.
When I was a kid, the Greyhound trips made me sick to my stomach, because
everywhere and at every time, people smoked like demons. Even on a
practically empty bus, the odour permeated the fabric of the seats. It was
the same with airplanes. I am so glad those days are gone.
--
VVV
His Shadow
I suspect to somebody who was still hung up on the notion that their god
created humans as his own exclusive chew toy, the discovery of other
sentient life would be a rude shock, somewhat like a three-year-old
experiences when Mom comes home with a new baby.
Dave Palmer
John Fleming
scriptorium, His Divine Shadow <hiss...@bigmailbox.net> wrote:
> $When I was a kid, the Greyhound trips made me sick to my stomach, because
> $everywhere and at every time, people smoked like demons. Even on a
> $practically empty bus, the odour permeated the fabric of the seats. It was
> $the same with airplanes. I am so glad those days are gone.
So am I.
I grew up as a non-smoker in a family of smokers, and that
doesn't make me any more tolerant of people who have nothing
better to do then waste money polluting the air and feeding a
nicotine addiction.
Sharx.
"His Divine Shadow" <hiss...@bigmailbox.net> wrote in message
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> Security Guard Fourth Class John Fleming failed to report for Termination
on
> 9/22/02 12:20
>
> > On 22 Sep 2002 06:48:36 GMT, while chained to a desk in the
> > scriptorium, Gavin Grandish <gran...@interchange.ubc.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> $: I took the bus once. What a bad experience.
> >> $: It was full of trailer trash, pimps, dope addicts
> >> $: and tax accountants.
> >> $
> >> $I hate Greyhound too.
> >
> > Actually, a late night Greyhound can be a nice mode of transport.
> >
> > Catch is, you need to get a bus that leaves at a time people
> > aren't likely to be catching it--like 1:00 AM.
>
> When I was a kid, the Greyhound trips made me sick to my stomach, because
> everywhere and at every time, people smoked like demons. Even on a
> practically empty bus, the odour permeated the fabric of the seats. It was
> the same with airplanes. I am so glad those days are gon
Why is it that many of the LIEBeral antismokers are the FIRST to demand the
legalization of pot? Somehow they don't see their POT SMOKE as being JUST as
irritating to others as tobacco smoke. ALL smoke is harmful to the lungs.
Albino Protoplasm
says...
>
>
>> When I was a kid, the Greyhound trips made me sick to my stomach, because
>> everywhere and at every time, people smoked like demons. Even on a
>> practically empty bus, the odour permeated the fabric of the seats. It was
>> the same with airplanes. I am so glad those days are gon
>
>Why is it that many of the LIEBeral antismokers are the FIRST to demand the
>legalization of pot? Somehow they don't see their POT SMOKE as being JUST as
>irritating to others as tobacco smoke. ALL smoke is harmful to the lungs.
>
and why is it that none of you morons realize that smoking has no effect on air
quality except in enclosed spaces and that we're all dying because of gasoline
combustion engines? If you want to breathe easier, pass a fucking law to ban
idling in fast food drive-thrus, you'll watch the air quality index be cut in
half overnight... but oh no.. stick to moralizing about pot and cigarette
smokers while you wheeze your way through the great outdoors...
Sharx.
"Albino Protoplasm" <spa...@spammer.com> wrote in message
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If one's car is not moving for at least a minute or two, yes, it makes sense
to shut off the engine. However, shutting it off and restarting it
repeatedly in inefficient as more gas is wasted in the first few seconds
after a restart than is used in the same time with the engine left running.
Also, if it is too cold or too hot, one needs the engine running to power
the air conditioning.
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