[django] Subject in posts
Andrés Martín
This mail, is for proposing that in tha all e-mail's that send to the group, contain the [django] subject. First, because the client mail can detect spam en it, and Second, for recognize each mail of mail-list. is a form of have mail organize, and know as it is as.
Thanks for the attention and I hope that this is put in practices.
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att. Martyn.
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James Bennett
> This mail, is for proposing that in tha all e-mail's that send to the
> group, contain the [django] subject. First, because the client mail can
> detect spam en it, and Second, for recognize each mail of mail-list. is a
> form of have mail organize, and know as it is as.
This has been proposed multiple times in the past (please search the
list archive at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users/), and it
was decided not to add a prefix to the subject line; any good mail
client, including GMail (which you seem to be using, judging by your
email address) can filter on arbitrary headers in messages, so a much
better solution that doesn't clutter up subject lines is to filter
messages based on 'To: django...@googlegroups.com'.
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M Harris
> This has been proposed multiple times in the past (please search the
> list archive at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users/), and it
> was decided not to add a prefix to the subject line; any good mail
> client,
and a very good idea...
Most mailing lists follow that convention... for instance see all of the
openSUSE mailing lists... and zillions of others. The practice is not
difficult, doesn't really clutter the subject line all that much, and
benefits much of the community.
I concur with the idea. ~please...
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Kind regards,
M Harris <><
Kenneth Gonsalves
On 04-May-07, at 12:16 PM, M Harris wrote:
>> This has been proposed multiple times in the past (please search the
>> list archive at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users/), and it
>> was decided not to add a prefix to the subject line; any good mail
>> client,
> The reason it gets proposed multiple times is because it is a good
> practice
> and a very good idea...
the point is that the people who run the list get to choose - and
they have chosen not to, so it is pointless discussing this (i was
one of the first proposers, btw)
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Forest Bond
> This mail, is for proposing that in tha all e-mail's that send to the group,
> contain the [django] subject. First, because the client mail can detect spam en
> it, and Second, for recognize each mail of mail-list. is a form of have mail
> organize, and know as it is as.
Every mailing list I've ever seen that uses prefixed subjects adds the prefix
automatically. Users shouldn't be bothered to add a repetitive prefix to their
emails. We have machines to do that sort of stuff.
More over, you shouldn't expect others to accomodate what appears to be severe
deficiencies in your mail clients ability to deal with SPAM and sort incoming
messages (or your inability to properly configure those features).
One thing that I think would be nice, however, is if MIME digests were support
by Google groups. I guess you can't get everything you want.
-Forest
Brett Parker
It's a waste of 14 characters if it's [django-users], and 7 as [django],
now, when you get people with broken mail clients that also keep
prepending Re: then those 14 characters become very important - my
terminal is usually only about 80 characters long, most of the time I
can only see around 20/25 characters of the subject line, I'd really
rather that they were all relevant than to lose them to an unneeded
prefix.
Thanks,
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Brett Parker
Brett Parker
>
> On 5/4/07, Andr?s Mart?n <andresma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > This mail, is for proposing that in tha all e-mail's that send to the
> > group, contain the [django] subject. First, because the client mail can
> > detect spam en it, and Second, for recognize each mail of mail-list. is a
> > form of have mail organize, and know as it is as.
>
> This has been proposed multiple times in the past (please search the
> list archive at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users/), and it
> was decided not to add a prefix to the subject line; any good mail
> client, including GMail (which you seem to be using, judging by your
> email address) can filter on arbitrary headers in messages, so a much
> better solution that doesn't clutter up subject lines is to filter
> messages based on 'To: django...@googlegroups.com'.
List-Id: <django-users.googlegroups.com>
^ That's a better header to match on, IMO, then if the list is
CC'd/BCC'd you'll still have the mail sorted in to the right folder
(it's how I sort all list traffic). Any mailing list without a List-Id
header probably isn't worth reading anyways!
Cheers,
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Brett Parker
James Bennett
> Every mailing list I've ever seen that uses prefixed subjects adds the prefix
> automatically. Users shouldn't be bothered to add a repetitive prefix to their
> emails. We have machines to do that sort of stuff.
Adding prefixes to list mails is purely redundant, since any good
email client can already sort email into folders or automatically
apply labels based on headers, and it creates a usability problem.
Consider someone who doesn't have a 2400-pixel wide maximized email
client, and who sees this set of subject lines:
[django-users] Problem with m
[django-users] Needing help wi
And compare to:
Problem with mod_python
Needing help with sessions
Which one is more useful?
Again: the proposal has come up multiple times and has been shot down
multiple times. Is it really worth expending energy to argue with
something that's not important at all in the long run, and which won't
be changed at all by the arguing? ;)
Forest Bond
> Consider someone who doesn't have a 2400-pixel wide maximized email
> client, and who sees this set of subject lines:
>
> [django-users] Problem with m
> [django-users] Needing help wi
I'd say it's time to change your mutt config :)
Unless you need to know the kb's in each and every message, that is.
-Forest