Public Access Unix systems?
Scott Barman
area (for someone who does not have net access and wants it!).
If you want to post (to advertise), fine but please email me a copy.
THANKS!!
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Michael T. Doughney
>I need to get information on public access Unix systems in the DC
>area (for someone who does not have net access and wants it!).
>If you want to post (to advertise), fine but please email me a copy.
>
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Kurt J. Lidl
>In article <1992Apr21.1...@asd.com> sc...@asd.com (Scott Barman) writes:
>>I need to get information on public access Unix systems in the DC
>>area (for someone who does not have net access and wants it!).
>>If you want to post (to advertise), fine but please email me a copy.
>>
>
> Express Access Online Communications Service for Washington-Baltimore
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>A Public Access Unix serving the Maryland - D.C. - Northern Virginia region.
>
This newsgroup is *NOT* an appropriate place to post this.
Why didn't you just e-mail it, like the original posting asked
for?
Please re-read the new users guide to correct network practices.
PS -- the cross-post to alt.bbs.ads has been removed.
I hope your users follow the guidelines better than you do.
(From what I have seen, this is not the case.)
-Kurt
Imminent collapse of USENET predicted, film at eleven.
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David L. Reed
>I need to get information on public access Unix systems in the DC
>area (for someone who does not have net access and wants it!).
>If you want to post (to advertise), fine but please email me a copy.
Tell your friend and anyone else looking for a Public Access Unix System
to call Highlite! The number is in my .sig. More information can be
obtained by calling the number and logging in as guest. New standard
personal accounts are $10 a month.
Hope this helps.
>THANKS!!
Your welcome.
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James Treworgy
>In article <1992Apr23....@access.digex.com> mi...@access.digex.com (Michael T. Doughney) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr21.1...@asd.com> sc...@asd.com (Scott Barman) writes:
>>>I need to get information on public access Unix systems in the DC
>>>area (for someone who does not have net access and wants it!).
>>>If you want to post (to advertise), fine but please email me a copy.
>>>
>>
>> Express Access Online Communications Service for Washington-Baltimore
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>A Public Access Unix serving the Maryland - D.C. - Northern Virginia region.
>>
>>[long, obnoxious posting removed]
>
>This newsgroup is *NOT* an appropriate place to post this.
>Why didn't you just e-mail it, like the original posting asked
>for?
>
>Please re-read the new users guide to correct network practices.
Why not? It's certainly pertinent to DC. I wish I had seen postings
like this *more* often when I needed them... I lost net access when I
graduated from college, and had no idea how I could get it back again.
Services like the one advertised (which I happen to subscribe to, but
am not otherwise affiliated with) are very important to people who do
not go to school or work in a place where there is internet access and
want to stay on the net. Where else should they advertise? How else
will people find out about this very valuable service? Seems like the
most obvious place is on the net.
Whatever the exact usenet guideline which pertains to commercial
advertising is, I think that an exception which most people won't have
a problem with is people who offer *usenet access*.
You may take your usenet access for granted but a lot of people leaving
college or changing their place of work don't and benefit from services
such as digex.... that is, if they can find out about them.
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James A. Treworgy "And it all would be so crystal clear, if it wasn't for
ja...@digex.com the foam..." (ja...@sun.astro.wesleyan.edu)
Cherry Poptart
>area (for someone who does not have net access and wants it!).
>If you want to post (to advertise), fine but please email me a copy.
I am on a system called Express Access that a company
in Greenbelt runs. They sell accounts and you can
contact them at 220-2020 or you can dial their system
up at 220-0462 and get information and stuff.
Love ya!!!
Cherry
Cherry Poptart
>>In article <1992Apr21.1...@asd.com> sc...@asd.com (Scott Barman) writes:
>>>I need to get information on public access Unix systems in the DC
>>>area (for someone who does not have net access and wants it!).
>>>If you want to post (to advertise), fine but please email me a copy.
>>>
>>
>> Express Access Online Communications Service for Washington-Baltimore
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>A Public Access Unix serving the Maryland - D.C. - Northern Virginia region.
>>
>>[long, obnoxious posting removed]
>
>This newsgroup is *NOT* an appropriate place to post this.
>Why didn't you just e-mail it, like the original posting asked
>for?
Actually, he said "If you want to post (to advertise),
fine but please email me a copy."
And why isnt this the proper place for an advertisement?
You work for Suranet. You get your net access free of
charge (can even give it out to friends maybe) when people
like me and the other people on the digex machine have to
pay for theirs. We arent connected like you are, dont work
in the right places or dont go to the right schools. We
shouldnt know about digex and the access that they make
available to people who otherwise would be left out in the
cold? Is it the "crass commercialism" that bothers you?
You have some idea that commercial things shouldnt be on
the net?
We will see if you still have a job once ANS rips off half
of your customers. Then tell me about how the net isnt
"commercial" (see, Im learning this IP stuff. Takes time,
but with some work you can get under the covers and find the
switches on anything ;-)
Doesn't hurt to be sleeping with an IP engineer either ;-)
>Please re-read the new users guide to correct network practices.
>
>PS -- the cross-post to alt.bbs.ads has been removed.
>
>I hope your users follow the guidelines better than you do.
>(From what I have seen, this is not the case.)
>
> -Kurt
>
Hmmm...... Looking to get the whole user community pissed
off at you eh? Doing a good job.
>Imminent collapse of USENET predicted, film at eleven.
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>/* Kurt J. Lidl (li...@sura.net) | Unix is the answer, but only if you */
>/* X.500: Power Tools for Power Fools | phrase the question very carefully. */
Cherry Poptart
Kurt J. Lidl
>In article <1992Apr25....@sura.net> li...@sura.net (Kurt J. Lidl) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr23....@access.digex.com> mi...@access.digex.com (Michael T. Doughney) writes:
>>>In article <1992Apr21.1...@asd.com> sc...@asd.com (Scott Barman) writes:
>>>>I need to get information on public access Unix systems in the DC
>>>>area (for someone who does not have net access and wants it!).
>>>>If you want to post (to advertise), fine but please email me a copy.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Express Access Online Communications Service for Washington-Baltimore
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>A Public Access Unix serving the Maryland - D.C. - Northern Virginia region.
>>>
>>>[long, obnoxious posting removed]
>>
>>This newsgroup is *NOT* an appropriate place to post this.
>>Why didn't you just e-mail it, like the original posting asked
>>for?
>>
>>Please re-read the new users guide to correct network practices.
>
>Why not? It's certainly pertinent to DC.
Pertinent to DC, yes. Pertinent to dc.general, no. There is a place
for advertising. The dc.general newsgroup is *not* it. Why not just
kill the cross-post to dc.general, and just post it to alt.bbs.ads? It
exists for this type of things. If Mike *had* to post it, why the heck
not to dc.forsale? They are selling a service (in a for-profit
manner), USENET and E-Mail access. Therefore, it should be regulated
to the *correct channels*. dc.general is *not* the correct channel.
>I wish I had seen postings like this *more* often when I needed them...
Perhaps you were not investigating the correct places on the net?
>I lost net access when I graduated from college, and had no idea how I
>could get it back again. Services like the one advertised (which I
>happen to subscribe to, but am not otherwise affiliated with) are very
>important to people who do not go to school or work in a place where
>there is internet access and want to stay on the net.
I've got no problem with them selling the service. I've got a problem
with them advertising in the wrong place.
>Where else should they advertise?
See above.
>How else will people find out about this very valuable service?
Flyers, ads on local area BBS's, etc.
>Seems like the most obvious place is on the net.
Seems like the most obvious place is on the net, IN THE CORRECT PLACE!
>Whatever the exact usenet guideline which pertains to commercial
>advertising is,
USENET has no guidelines, except for common sense. It is the people who
use the NSFnet backbones that have to follow an AUP (acceptable use policy).
>I think that an exception which most people won't have
>a problem with is people who offer *usenet access*.
I think that people would complain quite a bit if I started posting
SURAnet propoganda in dc.general on a regular basis.
>You may take your usenet access for granted but a lot of people leaving
>college or changing their place of work don't and benefit from services
>such as digex.... that is, if they can find out about them.
Again, the complaint is not the message, and not even the media, it's the
place in the medium that I am distressed about.
>James A. Treworgy "And it all would be so crystal clear, if it wasn't for
>ja...@digex.com the foam..." (ja...@sun.astro.wesleyan.edu)
Randy Crawford
>In article <1992Apr29.1...@access.digex.com> ja...@access.digex.com (James Treworgy) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr23....@access.digex.com> mi...@access.digex.com (Michael T. Doughney) writes:
>>>In article <1992Apr21.1...@asd.com> sc...@asd.com (Scott Barman) writes:
>>>>I need to get information on public access Unix systems in the DC
>>>>area (for someone who does not have net access and wants it!).
>>>>If you want to post (to advertise), fine but please email me a copy.
>>>
>>>
>>> Express Access Online Communications Service for Washington-Baltimore
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>A Public Access Unix serving the Maryland - D.C. - Northern Virginia region.
>>>
> [long, obnoxious posting removed]
>
>This newsgroup is *NOT* an appropriate place to post this.
>Why didn't you just e-mail it, like the original posting asked
>for?
>
Lighten up. The ad was exactly what was requested.
In the past 6 months, the same request has been repeated at least 8 times. Would you
rather see this question over and over again for another 6 months, or allow someone
to reply once and in full?
Or are you volunteering to maintain the dc.general FAQ list?
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James Treworgy
>In article <1992Apr29.1...@access.digex.com> ja...@access.digex.com (James Treworgy) writes:
>>
>>Why not? It's certainly pertinent to DC.
>
>Pertinent to DC, yes. Pertinent to dc.general, no. There is a place
>for advertising. The dc.general newsgroup is *not* it. Why not just
>kill the cross-post to dc.general, and just post it to alt.bbs.ads? It
>exists for this type of things. If Mike *had* to post it, why the heck
>not to dc.forsale? They are selling a service (in a for-profit
>manner), USENET and E-Mail access. Therefore, it should be regulated
>to the *correct channels*. dc.general is *not* the correct channel.
Please, then, explain for the usenet community what the exact boundaries
of discussion for dc.*GENERAL* are. My interperetation: DC = topics of
interest to the Washington, DC community. GENERAL = general topics
of discussion, information, or interest which do not directly fall
under another category.
As for dc.forsale, that's more "items" for sale. This is a service.
What if digex was free? There are some free public access services.. what
if one of them had responded? Certainly dc.forsale is inappropriate.
Yet the service is exactly the same. So should we allow only free services
to post information to dc.general, but require that those that charge a fee
only be allowed to post to dc.forsale, and not to dc.general?
I think that information about public access services in the DC area are
perfectly appropriate for dc.general. And I think that it is very hard
to say anything at ALL which pertains to DC doesn't belong in dc.general.
(Unless you are going to tell me that "general" stands for military
generals, and we should only talk about Custer here).
--
Robear
Suranet - so I guess he should have responded to dc.forsale. But then how
would the rest of us have known it was a problem?
If someone posts a question like the one that started this discussion in a
group which you consider inappropriate, flame them - don't flame the people
who answer it. ALL of the local services had a chance to respond, no?
If the offended party had followed his own strict advice, we'd never have
seen his response, and the folks in dc.forsale would have been scratching
their heads, trying to figure out how much caffeine it takes to make
someone this sensitive to details...
Robear
Another risque, daring, cutting-edge net.morality post from *me* and no
one else...:-)
.
Amanda Walker
I have never before seen applied to this group--wherein discussing the
aerodynamics of automibiles at freeway speeds is within bounds, but providing
information about public access UNIX systems in the DC metro area is not.
Mr. Lidl also seems to be arrogating to himself the authority to impose
these content restrictions on the group.
What is wrong with this picture?
In the spirit of "not fixing what ain't broke," I suggest that if commercial
information starts to flood dc.general, we then simply newgroup 'dc.biz' or
something. However, I hardly think it's a problem at this stage.
Chill out, folks.
Amanda Walker ama...@visix.com
Visix Software Inc. ...!uupsi!visix.com!amanda
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Raul Deluth Miller-Rockwell
Being an idiot on dc.general is prohibited.
extensive net.prohibition.postings are prohibited.
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Terence Cunningham
> Being an idiot on dc.general is prohibited.
>
> Q
I propose a dc.idiots newsgroup.
Based on some of the inane blathering (see WDCA Channel 20 thread) on this
group, I'm sure there would be a HUGE following!
I also propose a dc.netpolice newsgroup.
They could set up their rules on what is and isn't appropriate, we we would
then crash around violating their rules, then they get to tsk tsk and
reprimand us to their hearts content.
Terry
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>
> Q
hey Lin you wacky weasle you,
this kind of hi-jinx is all good fun, but your e-mail box is sure gonna
start filling up with all sorts of serious advice on how you awta treat
dc.general (genuflect here) with more respect.