absentee voting in Saint Louis
Robert Citek
I can't email it. I can't download it. I can't link to it. I can't
quote it. And I can't print it. The only thing I'm able to do with
this document is stare at my screen and marvel at its beauty ... its
genius. How is this document useful? How is this better than
OpenOffice Format, MS Word, PDF, HTML, or even plain text? Why is
this something that can be so wonderfully simple so incomprehensibly
complex? Or am I missing something?
Regards,
- Robert
Scott Granneman
Lieberman, my ex-wife & brilliant voting rights attorney here in St.
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On Sep 24, 2008, at 1:00 AM, Robert Citek wrote:
Sean Burns
> I can print the doc you're pointing to, Robert, on my Mac.
I can't. Robert didn't say what OS he's using. Might be a Linux /
Flash issue. Weird.
Sean
Robert Citek
Yup, Linux. Ubuntu 8.10, specifically. I also suspect it's a Flash
issue in addition to poor implementation by the City.
Regards,
- Robert
Robert Citek
> I can print the doc you're pointing to, Robert, on my Mac.
Can you do any of the other items:
- select/copy/paste text
- email the document
- click on document info
- print as a PDF
What version of Flash are you using and in what browser?
Regards,
- Robert
Theresa Kehoe
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 01:00 -0500, Robert Citek wrote:
> Has anyone tried to get an absentee ballot from the City of Saint Louis?
>
> http://www.stlelections.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=85-absentee-application-generalspecial-elections&catid=38-subpages&Itemid=61
>
FWIW, works fine with Ubuntu 7.10 (gutsy) running Firefox/2.0.0.16.
Theresa
Theresa Kehoe
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 01:00 -0500, Robert Citek wrote:
>
> http://www.stlelections.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=85-absentee-application-generalspecial-elections&catid=38-subpages&Itemid=61
>
Still, better than St. Louis County. Their online form for requesting
an absentee ballot is specifically for the February 2008 Primary, and
NOT for the November 2008 election. Way to go, guys!!
Theresa
Robert Citek
Interesting. I've tried it on Gutsy also with FF 2.0.0.17.
How did you e-mail the document? Can you print it to a PDF?
Regards,
- Robert
Scott Granneman
Scott
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Scott Granneman
>
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 1:38 AM, Scott Granneman
> <sc...@granneman.com> wrote:
>> I can print the doc you're pointing to, Robert, on my Mac.
>
> Can you do any of the other items:
>
> - select/copy/paste text
of course not. it's flashpaper (which has been discontinued by adobe
now, btw)
> - email the document
yes - click the iPaper menu & select Email.
> - click on document info
not sure what you mean by that.
> - print as a PDF
sure - again, iPaper > Print, then choose PDF (which is standard on a
Mac in the same way it is on Linux)
> What version of Flash are you using and in what browser?
Flash: Flash 9.0 r124
Browser: Safari & Firefox
OS: Mac OS X 10.5.5
They're using Scribd, a document hosting service. What's sad & funny
is that Scribd relies on Adobe Flashpaper, which Adobe discontinued a
month or so ago. To all those businesses who relied on it instead of
PDF: Ooops. And screw you for using something so alien to basic
document usage.
Scott
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Robert Citek
Best solution: skip all the local stuff and get it from the Secretary of state:
http://www.sos.mo.gov/forms/elections/absentee.pdf
It prints. It e-mails. You can link to it. You can even fill it out
with Evince. In fact, I filled it out with Evince, printed it as a
PDF, sent to myself via Gmail, and printed it out with Adobe Reader on
Windows XP.
More details on absentee voting:
http://www.sos.mo.gov/elections/s_default.asp?id=absentee
Regards,
- Robert
Theresa Kehoe
I didn't try to email it (when I do, it says sorry, the document is
private and can't be emailed), just sent it to printer.
I also tried this on hubby's PC (Ubuntu 8.04 with FF 3.0.2) and it
printed just fine. Sent to printer, though, not to PDF.
Theresa
Robert Citek
> On Sep 24, 2008, at 2:40 AM, Robert Citek wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 1:38 AM, Scott Granneman
>> <sc...@granneman.com> wrote:
>>> I can print the doc you're pointing to, Robert, on my Mac.
>>
>> Can you do any of the other items:
>>
>> - select/copy/paste text
>
> of course not. it's flashpaper (which has been discontinued by adobe
> now, btw)
>
>> - email the document
>
> yes - click the iPaper menu & select Email.
And does it work for you? I get a message saying something about a
private document.
>> - click on document info
>
> not sure what you mean by that.
click the iPaper menu & select Document Info. You should get a URL.
I get "Null"
>> - print as a PDF
>
> sure - again, iPaper > Print, then choose PDF (which is standard on a
> Mac in the same way it is on Linux)
My print menu brings up an abreviated menu with the option to print
from page 0 to page 0. No matter what numbers I enter, no PDF is
generated:
http://groups.google.com/group/cwelug/web/Screenshot-Print.png
>> What version of Flash are you using and in what browser?
>
> Flash: Flash 9.0 r124
> Browser: Safari & Firefox
> OS: Mac OS X 10.5.5
>
> They're using Scribd, a document hosting service. What's sad & funny
> is that Scribd relies on Adobe Flashpaper, which Adobe discontinued a
> month or so ago. To all those businesses who relied on it instead of
> PDF: Ooops. And screw you for using something so alien to basic
> document usage.
Flash: 9.0.124.0ubuntu1~gutsy1
Browser: Firefox 2.0.0.17+1nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10
OS: Linux 2.6.22-15.58
Regards,
- Robert
Sean Burns
> What version of Flash are you using and in what browser?
Ubuntu 8.10, Flash 9, and FF 3 here. I also tried Opera and
Epiphany, but no go there either. I have issues with FF3 and Flash
every once in a while and using Opera usually fixes that, but not
this time.
Sean
Scott Kokotovitch
Theresa Kehoe
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Scott Granneman <sc...@granneman.com> wrote:
> > On Sep 24, 2008, at 2:40 AM, Robert Citek wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 1:38 AM, Scott Granneman
> >> <sc...@granneman.com> wrote:
> >>> I can print the doc you're pointing to, Robert, on my Mac.
> >>
> >> Can you do any of the other items:
> >>
> >> - select/copy/paste text
> >
> > of course not. it's flashpaper (which has been discontinued by adobe
> > now, btw)
> >
> >> - email the document
> >
> > yes - click the iPaper menu & select Email.
>
> And does it work for you? I get a message saying something about a
> private document.
>
> >> - click on document info
> >
> > not sure what you mean by that.
>
> click the iPaper menu & select Document Info. You should get a URL.
> I get "Null"
>
> >> - print as a PDF
> >
> > sure - again, iPaper > Print, then choose PDF (which is standard on a
> > Mac in the same way it is on Linux)
>
> My print menu brings up an abreviated menu with the option to print
> from page 0 to page 0. No matter what numbers I enter, no PDF is
> generated:
My print to PDF appears to generate something but I don't find any
document created. When I sent it to an actual printer (from page 0 to
page 0) it does print, however.
Our tax dollars at work?
Theresa