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Jeannine
Jan 19, 2011, 4:33:00 AM1/19/11
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Yesterday I had a really terrific meeting with some folks who run a
nonprofit, finding working space for artists to work in. Recently
they have broadened their mission to include artisans and also non-
professional artists. We were talking about doing a project together,
and it was really more of a brainstorm session. So they are off to
talk to their artists and I am off to ask you, the other guys with the
coworking spaces.
Do any of you either target artists or have artists as members? Or
done projects in this area? What worked? What did not?
nonprofit, finding working space for artists to work in. Recently
they have broadened their mission to include artisans and also non-
professional artists. We were talking about doing a project together,
and it was really more of a brainstorm session. So they are off to
talk to their artists and I am off to ask you, the other guys with the
coworking spaces.
Do any of you either target artists or have artists as members? Or
done projects in this area? What worked? What did not?
Araceli Camargo-Kilpatrick
Jan 19, 2011, 4:35:04 AM1/19/11
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yup, we have artist in our space in London. We host a private view for them and teach them about enterprise...we also help with PR and write articles pertaining to their work.
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Jeannine
Jan 19, 2011, 5:20:29 AM1/19/11
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I wondered about that. Do they actually work in the space? I have
one open space and one smaller space which can be closed, and the
person I met with was saying that there was no way in hell that an
artist was going to work in an open floor plan.
So it's more like "Entrepreneurship for Artists" on the one side and
you provide space for shows on the other?
And thanks! I just have this feeling it's doable but had nothing to
point to in terms of a model.
Jeannine
On Jan 19, 10:35 am, Araceli Camargo-Kilpatrick
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one open space and one smaller space which can be closed, and the
person I met with was saying that there was no way in hell that an
artist was going to work in an open floor plan.
So it's more like "Entrepreneurship for Artists" on the one side and
you provide space for shows on the other?
And thanks! I just have this feeling it's doable but had nothing to
point to in terms of a model.
Jeannine
On Jan 19, 10:35 am, Araceli Camargo-Kilpatrick
<thecubelon...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> yup, we have artist in our space in London. We host a private view for them
> and teach them about enterprise...we also help with PR and write articles
> pertaining to their work.
>
> best
>
> A
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> yup, we have artist in our space in London. We host a private view for them
> and teach them about enterprise...we also help with PR and write articles
> pertaining to their work.
>
> best
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> A
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> On 19 January 2011 09:33, Jeannine <flexkantoorkame...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Yesterday I had a really terrific meeting with some folks who run a
> > nonprofit, finding working space for artists to work in. Recently
> > they have broadened their mission to include artisans and also non-
> > professional artists. We were talking about doing a project together,
> > and it was really more of a brainstorm session. So they are off to
> > talk to their artists and I am off to ask you, the other guys with the
> > coworking spaces.
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> > Do any of you either target artists or have artists as members? Or
> > done projects in this area? What worked? What did not?
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> > Yesterday I had a really terrific meeting with some folks who run a
> > nonprofit, finding working space for artists to work in. Recently
> > they have broadened their mission to include artisans and also non-
> > professional artists. We were talking about doing a project together,
> > and it was really more of a brainstorm session. So they are off to
> > talk to their artists and I am off to ask you, the other guys with the
> > coworking spaces.
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> > Do any of you either target artists or have artists as members? Or
> > done projects in this area? What worked? What did not?
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Araceli Camargo-Kilpatrick
Jan 19, 2011, 5:26:10 AM1/19/11
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the artist doesnt do the actual artistic work at the space, but they us it to meet buyers and showcase their work, plus take advantage of the resources
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David Garvin
Jan 19, 2011, 6:31:41 AM1/19/11
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Hi there.
We have Arts Council funding to develop a coworking space to specifically include artists. We've managed to secure a building (previously used by the local college to teach painting and decorating) that has 'pods' already set up. Perfect.
The biggest challenge was finding a suitable space that could accommodate both 'wet' artists and desk based workers.
Artists will fill any available space with stuff. They have a tendency to spread out. That can cause a problem with rates unless they are confined somehow to a designated area.
The other thing I've found is that a lot of artists love the idea of moving their work into a shared studio but most don't have very much spare cash. It's been a challenge therefore to balance the £/sq ft problem against a full paying member who only uses a desk (and therefore far less space).
We too will be offering exhibitions but will be expecting our art members to run workshops, discussions and classes. A decent life drawing class is hard to find in our area for example, so they can help meet that demand.
I'd have to agree, based on my research, its hard to see artists sharing a completely open plan space with desk based workers or other artists (unless they know each other well). Unless you have an enormous area. Not just because of the mess but, for a lot of artists, it's a very personal process. The baring of one's soul for general consumption is something that some artists prefer to leave until the piece is finished.
We'll be opening in march, I'd be really happy to stay in regular contact with you if you would like? Sounds like you might be on a similar journey, we could share stories!
I too would love to hear from others who are involving artists within the coworking world.
Good luck,
David
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Alex Hillman
Jan 19, 2011, 8:39:57 AM1/19/11
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We encourage artists to do the business side of their work from Indy Hall. Simply put, have their own turf on which they can do business instead of always being on the other person's "home field" - a gallery, home of a buyer, etc. This gives them an unusual home-field advantage, and also helps them see other non-artists conduct business and pick up good habits and technique.
Geoff, my partner, is also an artist. Indy Hall was built on foundations of lessons learned from why many art collectives are unsustainable.
I've heard more than one person remark that Indy Hall seems like a place for people who might've been artists if it was a more practical career - it's amazing how many people that work from Indy Hall have active arts-related hobbies or connections into the art community. I think it's a huge element of why it's such a richly productive creative space.
-Alex
Jeannine
Jan 23, 2011, 3:25:04 PM1/23/11
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Got it, thanks! I begin to think that a joint project might be a good
start.
On Jan 19, 11:26 am, Araceli Camargo-Kilpatrick
start.
On Jan 19, 11:26 am, Araceli Camargo-Kilpatrick
<thecubelon...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> the artist doesnt do the actual artistic work at the space, but they us it
> to meet buyers and showcase their work, plus take advantage of the resources
>
> a
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> the artist doesnt do the actual artistic work at the space, but they us it
> to meet buyers and showcase their work, plus take advantage of the resources
>
> a
>
Jeannine
Jan 23, 2011, 3:40:05 PM1/23/11
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Hi, David,
Love to, I am just feeling my way here. My own background is much
more in theater and music as far as the arts are concerned, so I am
trying to wrap my head around the needs of visual artists.
Your project sounds really exciting! Got any pics? I looked at your
profile but didn't find a link, possibly I am thicker than usual
today.
I surely do not have an enormous space. So I am beginning to think
that, for instance, some events might be the way to go. Classes and
exhibitions.
My own space is in this half-open, half not-open condition. I have a
couple of members and several intrested but haven't advertised yet
exactly because of renovations and so forth. For an obsessively
organized control freak sort of person this kind of organic growth is
very frustrat- er, sorry, instructive.
Would love to keep in regular touch. Besides, the Dutch guys
regularly ask for referral to a space in the UK. Her's hwo to find me
everywhere: http://www.retaggr.com/page/Jeannine
Jeannine
On Jan 19, 12:31 pm, David Garvin <da...@visitgmd.com> wrote:
> Hi there.
>
> We have Arts Council funding to develop a coworking space to specifically include artists. We've managed to secure a building (previously used by the local college to teach painting and decorating) that has 'pods' already set up. Perfect.
>
> The biggest challenge was finding a suitable space that could accommodate both 'wet' artists and desk based workers.
>
> Artists will fill any available space with stuff. They have a tendency to spread out. That can cause a problem with rates unless they are confined somehow to a designated area.
>
> The other thing I've found is that a lot of artists love the idea of moving their work into a shared studio but most don't have very much spare cash. It's been a challenge therefore to balance the £/sq ft problem against a full paying member who only uses a desk (and therefore far less space).
>
> We too will be offering exhibitions but will be expecting our art members to run workshops, discussions and classes. A decent life drawing class is hard to find in our area for example, so they can help meet that demand.
>
> I'd have to agree, based on my research, its hard to see artists sharing a completely open plan space with desk based workers or other artists (unless they know each other well). Unless you have an enormous area. Not just because of the mess but, for a lot of artists, it's a very personal process. The baring of one's soul for general consumption is something that some artists prefer to leave until the piece is finished.
>
> We'll be opening in march, I'd be really happy to stay in regular contact with you if you would like? Sounds like you might be on a similar journey, we could share stories!
>
> I too would love to hear from others who are involving artists within the coworking world.
>
> Good luck,
>
> David
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
Love to, I am just feeling my way here. My own background is much
more in theater and music as far as the arts are concerned, so I am
trying to wrap my head around the needs of visual artists.
Your project sounds really exciting! Got any pics? I looked at your
profile but didn't find a link, possibly I am thicker than usual
today.
I surely do not have an enormous space. So I am beginning to think
that, for instance, some events might be the way to go. Classes and
exhibitions.
My own space is in this half-open, half not-open condition. I have a
couple of members and several intrested but haven't advertised yet
exactly because of renovations and so forth. For an obsessively
organized control freak sort of person this kind of organic growth is
very frustrat- er, sorry, instructive.
Would love to keep in regular touch. Besides, the Dutch guys
regularly ask for referral to a space in the UK. Her's hwo to find me
everywhere: http://www.retaggr.com/page/Jeannine
Jeannine
On Jan 19, 12:31 pm, David Garvin <da...@visitgmd.com> wrote:
> Hi there.
>
> We have Arts Council funding to develop a coworking space to specifically include artists. We've managed to secure a building (previously used by the local college to teach painting and decorating) that has 'pods' already set up. Perfect.
>
> The biggest challenge was finding a suitable space that could accommodate both 'wet' artists and desk based workers.
>
> Artists will fill any available space with stuff. They have a tendency to spread out. That can cause a problem with rates unless they are confined somehow to a designated area.
>
> The other thing I've found is that a lot of artists love the idea of moving their work into a shared studio but most don't have very much spare cash. It's been a challenge therefore to balance the £/sq ft problem against a full paying member who only uses a desk (and therefore far less space).
>
> We too will be offering exhibitions but will be expecting our art members to run workshops, discussions and classes. A decent life drawing class is hard to find in our area for example, so they can help meet that demand.
>
> I'd have to agree, based on my research, its hard to see artists sharing a completely open plan space with desk based workers or other artists (unless they know each other well). Unless you have an enormous area. Not just because of the mess but, for a lot of artists, it's a very personal process. The baring of one's soul for general consumption is something that some artists prefer to leave until the piece is finished.
>
> We'll be opening in march, I'd be really happy to stay in regular contact with you if you would like? Sounds like you might be on a similar journey, we could share stories!
>
> I too would love to hear from others who are involving artists within the coworking world.
>
> Good luck,
>
> David
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
Jeannine
Jan 23, 2011, 3:47:58 PM1/23/11
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This:
match up artists and space and have apparently had unpleasant
experience with unsustainability of shared space. So they want to try
something limited first. Also, it must be said, the adage that
"Americans say, let's do business and see about getting to know each
other. Europeans say, let's get to know each other and then we'll see
about doing business" is fairly accurate.
So a pilot project with the artist/space matchmakers might be just the
thing.
Thanks!
Jeannine
>Indy Hall was built on foundations of
> lessons learned from why many art collectives are unsustainable.
is the primary concern I think of the people I was meeting with. They
> lessons learned from why many art collectives are unsustainable.
match up artists and space and have apparently had unpleasant
experience with unsustainability of shared space. So they want to try
something limited first. Also, it must be said, the adage that
"Americans say, let's do business and see about getting to know each
other. Europeans say, let's get to know each other and then we'll see
about doing business" is fairly accurate.
So a pilot project with the artist/space matchmakers might be just the
thing.
Thanks!
Jeannine
Alex Hillman
Jan 23, 2011, 10:07:05 PM1/23/11
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"Europeans say, let's get to know each other and then we'll see about doing business"
Bingo. I say it this way: Business is an overlay for social interactions, not the other way around.
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Jeannine
Jan 24, 2011, 2:25:02 AM1/24/11
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Alex!
Thanks for calling that to my attention. Great blog post and the link
to the lecture notes as well --some pure gold in there.
I don't know that I will be able to get the image of "cabbaging up
one's mind" out of my head any time soon.
Images with olfactory associations are sticky.
Laters,
Jeannine
On Jan 24, 4:07 am, Alex Hillman <dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > "Europeans say, let's get to know each other and then we'll see about doing
> > business"
>
> Bingo. I say it this way: Business is an overlay for social interactions,
> not the other way around.
>
> More here:http://dangerouslyawesome.com/2010/11/take-interest-dont-fake-interest/
>
> /ah
> indyhall.org
> coworking in philadelphia
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> > .
Thanks for calling that to my attention. Great blog post and the link
to the lecture notes as well --some pure gold in there.
I don't know that I will be able to get the image of "cabbaging up
one's mind" out of my head any time soon.
Images with olfactory associations are sticky.
Laters,
Jeannine
On Jan 24, 4:07 am, Alex Hillman <dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > "Europeans say, let's get to know each other and then we'll see about doing
> > business"
>
> Bingo. I say it this way: Business is an overlay for social interactions,
> not the other way around.
>
> More here:http://dangerouslyawesome.com/2010/11/take-interest-dont-fake-interest/
>
> /ah
> indyhall.org
> coworking in philadelphia
>
> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Jeannine <flexkantoorkame...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> > This:
> > >Indy Hall was built on foundations of
> > > lessons learned from why many art collectives are unsustainable.
>
> > is the primary concern I think of the people I was meeting with. They
> > match up artists and space and have apparently had unpleasant
> > experience with unsustainability of shared space. So they want to try
> > something limited first. Also, it must be said, the adage that
> > "Americans say, let's do business and see about getting to know each
> > other. Europeans say, let's get to know each other and then we'll see
> > about doing business" is fairly accurate.
>
> > So a pilot project with the artist/space matchmakers might be just the
> > thing.
>
> > Thanks!
>
> > Jeannine
>
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> > This:
> > >Indy Hall was built on foundations of
> > > lessons learned from why many art collectives are unsustainable.
>
> > is the primary concern I think of the people I was meeting with. They
> > match up artists and space and have apparently had unpleasant
> > experience with unsustainability of shared space. So they want to try
> > something limited first. Also, it must be said, the adage that
> > "Americans say, let's do business and see about getting to know each
> > other. Europeans say, let's get to know each other and then we'll see
> > about doing business" is fairly accurate.
>
> > So a pilot project with the artist/space matchmakers might be just the
> > thing.
>
> > Thanks!
>
> > Jeannine
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