Derek Smart Is A Marketing Genius!
Jim Gerlach
realizing that DS is a marketing genius! Why the change in heart you
ask? Well, I was directed to this web site
www.werewolves.org/~follies~/ and after much reading, and damn near
crying from hysterical laughter, I decided DS had earned my $50,
regardless if the game even works. I had no idea that the BC series
wasn't the game, but in fact DS himself is the interactive GAME (read
this if you don't know what I'm talking about)
http://follies.werewolves.org/archives/1Humor/BC3Kfaq.txt (this is one
of the best pieces of satire I've ever read BTW). I wanna play! I
inadvertantly started out as a detractor without even knowing it, but
I see from the follies, that I can switch sides multiple times if
necessary. While being a detractor is what comes naturally, I think
the Bright side would be more fun and challenging. I mean, it takes a
lot of thought to figure out ways to defend some of his suppositions.
This six year flame war is the best advertising anyone could possibly
ask for, so for that, I salute you SC! Come on guys, think how much
time and energy that he puts into all the posts across cyberspace for
your enjoyment? If nothing else, by ordering the game it may give you
plenty of fuel to fill your flametanks. I just can't believe that I
was naive enough to believe that DS was actually as a** instead of
realizing that he is just playing his part in the interactive game?
What an idiot I was to fall for it! This whole thing kind of reminds
me of my college days when we used to go to the "Rocky Horror" nights
at the movies. Everyone knew the part they wanted to play and had a
great time with it. Sure it was outrageous, but no harm was done
other than to the hapless saps who had to clean the theater
afterwards. Derek deserves you support for his efforts and he
certainly has mine. I'm serious. If he goes hungry, no more fun and
games. In the mean time, I will not stand for any more criticism of
the SC from any of you scumbags. F*** all of you. (God this is fun!)
Pitbull
wrote:
>of the best pieces of satire I've ever read BTW). I wanna play! I
>inadvertantly started out as a detractor without even knowing it, but
Indeed, it seems to happen by default.
>I see from the follies, that I can switch sides multiple times if
>necessary. While being a detractor is what comes naturally, I think
>the Bright side would be more fun and challenging. I mean, it takes a
>lot of thought to figure out ways to defend some of his suppositions.
Yes it does. I think it will be an interesting challenge for you.
>games. In the mean time, I will not stand for any more criticism of
>the SC from any of you scumbags. F*** all of you. (God this is fun!)
Dear me. That's a bad start. You simply sound like Dan Brooks in
that post.
Jim,
From previous posts, you appear to be able to post articulately. It
would be a welcome addition to the Taco Squad to have somebody that is
able to post without resorting to profanities, asterisks, and CAPS.
Please reconsider your last statement, and rephrase it. Derek really
needs a better toadie than Dan Brooks.
C Dobbels
Remember, it's ONLY a game. Derek hasn't even shut off the trolling
of his local teenager, he's NOT going to waste time and money trying to
stop free speech on the internet. He can't PROVE "stalking" or racism.
HIS temper tantrums are what get him banned and draw "detractors" to
wherever he posts.
He should be around for YEARS to come. He has 50+ sales outside of
the USA, and likely 500+ perorders at EB. Thats $2,500 + $25,000 when
it starts shipping. He'll need to pay some costs of production, but
most can go toward getting multiplayer fixed. With MP fixed he can
start the on-line subscriptions. $10 per month (?) would return $120
a year, the cost of two new games per person!
Until then (6 months to 18 months), he'll have Serious Galcom in
Manhattan, with the horrible boss monster Buffman!
Enjoy. If we had no Derek, there'd be no space-sims (group) at all.
Bill Huffman
"Jim Gerlach" <act...@localline.com> wrote in message
news:994a4bb4.01101...@posting.google.com...
Welcome to BCM the on-line game. I'm especially pleased that you've taken up the
role of supporter. Since Mr. Smart ordered all his toadies back to the Taco
Palace it has been really slow. I would like to make a special request that a
vigorous defense be mounted for either the forged email or the PhD fraud.
Now if you do an extra good job, maybe Mr. Smart will even make up special lies
just for your benefit like he used to do for Dan Brooks.
Louis J.M
act...@localline.com (Jim Gerlach) wrote:
I know. It would be terrible. Derek has provided so many laughs to so
many people; he's made using a Mac livable in the absense of multiplayer
gaming.
After BCM fails; if Derek's mum stops wiring him money and tells him to
get a real job, how about we all pitch in $15 so he can an IBM NetVista,
since he'll either be working at McDonalds or Wal-Mart, and that kind of
money certainly will be only enough to afford one, sans his daughter.
.-~~-.____ Louis J.M
/ | ' \
( ) O _
\_/-, ,----' // E-Mail: Lou...@worldnet.att.net
==== ___// AIM : Zsinj
/ \-'~; /~~~(O) ---------------------------------------------------
/ __/~| __/ | "Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish."
==(______| (_________| - Euripides
Bill Huffman
"Louis J.M" <Lou...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:ijNz7.144867$W8.35...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
I still doubt that he has a daughter living with him. Even IF he wasn't lying
about a daughter when she was first born, I doubt he would still be living with
her and her mother now. Remember the man's whole appearance is nothing but a
facade. He's attempted to fabricate just about his whole persona as perceived by
others. His bogus academic credentials are just the tip of the iceberg. What
other things has he said about himself? i.e., rich, brilliant a certified
genius, a world leading expert on computer AI, owner of a gaming franchise, Xbox
developer, the premier black developer in the whole industry, friends with FBI
agents-judges-DA's-detectives etc. etc etc. etc. etc.
Dick Garage
>I know. It would be terrible. Derek has provided so many laughs to so
>many people; he's made using a Mac livable in the absense of multiplayer
>gaming.
>
>After BCM fails; if Derek's mum stops wiring him money and tells him to
>get a real job, how about we all pitch in $15 so he can an IBM NetVista,
>since he'll either be working at McDonalds or Wal-Mart, and that kind of
>money certainly will be only enough to afford one, sans his daughter.
Why do you always start new threads from the original thread?
Quite annoying. Almost as annoying as your replies always showing up as a new
thread with Re:.
--
"Remember the rule about NOT having ANY spelling errors in thread
subjects?" - Derek Smart, site forum
Dick Garage
<bhuf...@REMOVE-THISsan.rr.com> wrote:
>the premier black developer in the whole industry
Well, since premier means first that would qualify? Kinda like the first pass
thrown in the XFL was a record pass for yardage?
heh
Premier certainly doesnt indicate quality ;)
Louis J.M
<di...@garage.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2001 03:43:10 GMT, "Louis J.M" <Lou...@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
>
>>I know. It would be terrible. Derek has provided so many laughs to so
>>many people; he's made using a Mac livable in the absense of multiplayer
>>gaming.
>>
>>After BCM fails; if Derek's mum stops wiring him money and tells him to
>>get a real job, how about we all pitch in $15 so he can an IBM NetVista,
>>since he'll either be working at McDonalds or Wal-Mart, and that kind of
>>money certainly will be only enough to afford one, sans his daughter.
>
> Why do you always start new threads from the original thread?
See From header.
> Quite annoying. Almost as annoying as your replies always showing up as a new
> thread with Re:.
Again, the from header.
.-~~-.____ Louis J.M
/ | ' \
( ) O _
\_/-, ,----' // E-Mail: Lou...@worldnet.att.net
==== ___// AIM : Zsinj
/ \-'~; /~~~(O) ---------------------------------------------------
/ __/~| __/ | "The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
==(______| (_________| - Bertrano Russell
C Dobbels
SNIP trollboy's new ISP
SNIP
> I still doubt that he has a daughter living with him. Even IF he wasn't lying
> about a daughter when she was first born, I doubt he would still be living
> with her and her mother now.
I suspect he HAS a daughter. He likely has 50% custody/visitation.
That way he can minimize child support/alimony expenses. He has no regular
job with a steady income. It dosen't matter.
Brad Martin
Tom Beckmann
"Bill Huffman" <bhuf...@REMOVE-THISsan.rr.com> wrote in message
news:BYNz7.42651$T24.19...@typhoon.san.rr.com...
<SNIP>
> I still doubt that he has a daughter living with him. Even IF he wasn't
lying
> about a daughter when she was first born, I doubt he would still be living
with
> her and her mother now. Remember the man's whole appearance is nothing but
a
> facade. He's attempted to fabricate just about his whole persona as
perceived by
> others. His bogus academic credentials are just the tip of the iceberg.
What
> other things has he said about himself? i.e., rich, brilliant a certified
> genius, a world leading expert on computer AI, owner of a gaming
franchise, Xbox
> developer, the premier black developer in the whole industry, friends with
FBI
> agents-judges-DA's-detectives etc. etc etc. etc. etc.
>
As an observer.... can I suggest that all the participants
children are kept completely out of the flame war.....
Until they are old enough to participate in their own right.
______________
Tom
Brad Martin
<bhuf...@REMOVE-THISsan.rr.com> wrote:
>Welcome to BCM the on-line game. I'm especially pleased that you've taken up the
>role of supporter. Since Mr. Smart ordered all his toadies back to the Taco
>Palace it has been really slow. I would like to make a special request that a
>vigorous defense be mounted for either the forged email or the PhD fraud.
>
>Now if you do an extra good job, maybe Mr. Smart will even make up special lies
>just for your benefit like he used to do for Dan Brooks.
>
Well, seeing as Jim is taking on the Palace mantle, I'm going to chip
in on Dan's behalf (yeah, I know Dan, I can shove my support up my
arse!). I think Dan's been very un-toady like lately. A couple of
posts digging at Detractors, a bit of a spat with Jimmy, and quite a
few that don't relate to Derek or the game at all. I think he may just
have got bored with the whole thing. So Bill, until Dan gets back into
the swing of things,I think all future toady references should be
directed at the real suck-up in our midst, Lemming (NOTtm). He's far
more deserving.
Has anyone ever tasted Rollmop Lemmings?
brad
Brad Martin
I agree absolutely Tom, sadly, this line has already been crossed too
many times.
brad
Derek Smart (3000AD)
wrote:
>games. In the mean time, I will not stand for any more criticism of
>the SC from any of you scumbags. F*** all of you. (God this is fun!)
LOL!!
Damn, that was funny. You're not so bad after all. And thanks for your
support (for buying the game, that is).
uhm, does that mean I have to let you back on the site then? If you
promise to behave, I just might :-)
Derek Smart Ph.D.
Designer/Lead Developer
Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build
bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce
bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. - Rich Cook
Tom Beckmann
"Brad Martin" <br...@zakalwe.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:6910ttknh3hl655uv...@4ax.com...
But all could agree to keep children out of it
from now on.
If people bring children into this flamewar I
would completely understand if this went into
real life with real criminal investigations,
real court orders, real police officers
asking questions.
Lets not go there.
___________________
Tom
Tom Beckmann
<snip>
> Has anyone ever tasted Rollmop Lemmings?
Rollmop Herrings :)
Rollmop Lemmings :(
_____________
Tom
Ron
LOL!!!!! Toady Alert!!!
Jim Gerlach
(Sensing a rift in the detractors united front, I attempt to drive the
wedge deeper for the glory of the SC)
Because Louis is an idiot, that's whay. Just questioning my post
about the SC marketing genius proves what an a** he is. The only
person dumber than he is would be the rest of you for even responding
to such a post!
(I attempt the classic, "Let's you and he fight" ploy to further the
rift)
I have to agree with regard to other posts, talking about one's
children/family is below the belt, but not unexpected from scum like
you.
Jim Gerlach
Bill,
You've got to come up with some new material! The "fraud/forger"
angle is wayyyy too old to keep dredging up. How about a statue of
limitations on it? For God's sake, you remind me of the 1977 Elvis
show, when he was just a shadow of himself, singing old songs in a
tired voice. Get over it already! You just wait until I get my copy
of BCM as well as hundreds of thousands of others from other game
buyers. DS will be able to buy and sell people like you and you will
be proven to be the old blow hard that we all know you are, so there!
Brad Martin
wrote:
>"Bill Huffman" <bhuf...@REMOVE-THISsan.rr.com> wrote in message news:<yPJz7.42449$T24.19...@typhoon.san.rr.com>...
Not bad Jim, but you're going to need a little bit more venom.
brad
Brad Martin
wrote:
>"Louis J.M" <Lou...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<IXPz7.75020$WW.36...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
That's better!!
brad
Bill Huffman
There's much to support your post, Brad. Ever since Mr. Smart lied to Dan about
there not being any agreement made by Rotbard to take down the website for a
scrap of evidence that the PhD was real, Dan Brooks went from super defense
toady to attack dog toady. Prior to that point in time he blindly believed every
lie that Mr. Smart told him and defended him to the maximum ability that
hypocritium allowed. After that point in time, it seems that Many Names Dan was
driven more by the hatred burning in his heart for those that told the truth
about his master.
For example, Dan made hundreds of posts and probably dozens of emails to me
trying to defend Mr. Smart's academic fraud. He even corrected an error in the
evidence that condemned the fraud. That was that not all dissertations are
listed in DAI. The fact is that all dissertations are listed but not all British
disserations are listed in DAI. Anyway, regarding the forged racist email, Dan
Brooks only made a handful of posts defending the forgery. His main technique
was personal attacks against people that discussed the forgery rather than
trying to defend against the accusation of forgery.
However, the bottom line is that Dan Brooks is IMHO the epitome of the good
toady. He earned his position through persistence and an utter lack of any
internal moral standards or honor. The only ideal he seems to hold is striving
for maximum hypocritium. Lemming can't hold a candle to Dan because hypocritium
is very unstable and there could be a violent reaction to the flame.
Bill Huffman
"Jim Gerlach" <act...@localline.com> wrote in message
news:994a4bb4.01101...@posting.google.com...
> "Bill Huffman" <bhuf...@REMOVE-THISsan.rr.com> wrote in message
news:<yPJz7.42449$T24.19...@typhoon.san.rr.com>...
> > Welcome to BCM the on-line game. I'm especially pleased that you've taken up
the
> > role of supporter. Since Mr. Smart ordered all his toadies back to the Taco
> > Palace it has been really slow. I would like to make a special request that
a
> > vigorous defense be mounted for either the forged email or the PhD fraud.
> >
> > Now if you do an extra good job, maybe Mr. Smart will even make up special
lies
> > just for your benefit like he used to do for Dan Brooks.
>
> Bill,
>
> You've got to come up with some new material! The "fraud/forger"
> angle is wayyyy too old to keep dredging up. How about a statue of
> limitations on it? For God's sake, you remind me of the 1977 Elvis
> show, when he was just a shadow of himself, singing old songs in a
> tired voice. Get over it already! You just wait until I get my copy
> of BCM as well as hundreds of thousands of others from other game
> buyers. DS will be able to buy and sell people like you and you will
> be proven to be the old blow hard that we all know you are, so there!
Jim, let's address something more recent. Mr. Smart is very rude and
thoughtless. On the one hand he says that he's coming to see me on a freight
train in an obvious attempt to gain sympathy for the economic position that he's
placed himself in. On the other hand he hasn't told me when to expect him. I
drive down to the train yard every day looking for him and he's not there. I
consider this very rude and impolite. I would send him some change so that he
could give me a call but I know that he'll just squander it on publication costs
for BCM.
Bill Huffman
"bp" <6b...@home.com> wrote in message
news:bi40tt01pge7m02na...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:53:29 -0400, Dick Garage <di...@garage.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 19 Oct 2001 04:27:13 GMT, "Bill Huffman"
> ><bhuf...@REMOVE-THISsan.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >>the premier black developer in the whole industry
> >
> >Well, since premier means first that would qualify? Kinda like the first pass
> >thrown in the XFL was a record pass for yardage?
> >
> Bill you're slipping.
Thanks bp and apologies for the slip up. BTW, I think it was THE elite black
game developer in the industry not AN elite black game developer.
Bill Huffman
Clueless Toady, there's already a huge rift between the detractors in this area.
Your wedge falls harmlessly into a rift the size of the Grand Canyon.
Bill Huffman
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:01:37 GMT, "Derek Smart (3000AD)"
> <dsm...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> >On 18 Oct 2001 10:48:35 -0700, act...@localline.com (Jim Gerlach)
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >>games. In the mean time, I will not stand for any more criticism of
> >>the SC from any of you scumbags. F*** all of you. (God this is fun!)
> >
> >LOL!!
> >
> >Damn, that was funny. You're not so bad after all. And thanks for your
> >support (for buying the game, that is).
> >
> >uhm, does that mean I have to let you back on the site then? If you
> >promise to behave, I just might :-)
> >
You mean quadruple agent.
Louis J.M
<bhuf...@REMOVE-THISsan.rr.com> wrote:
LOL.
Louis J.M
.-~~-.____ E-Mail: Lou...@worldnet.att.net
/ | ' \ AIM : Zsinj
( ) O _ ----------------------------------------------------
\_/-, ,----' // "Go fuck yourself! If anyone is trying to fit in, its
==== ___// you and your sorry ass. What have **YOU** achieved
/ \-'~; /~~~(O) and have to show for your pitiful life on MY FUCKING
/ __/~| __/ | planet, you prick?"
==(______| (_________| - Derek K. Smart dsm...@pobox.com
Dick Garage
>Again, the from header.
And also quite annoying having new threads scattered around the group that
shouldnt be.
Brad Martin
<bhuf...@REMOVE-THISsan.rr.com> wrote:
Yeah I know. I was just trying to goad Lem into attacking me, I get
such a thrill when he humiliates me on the group.
brad
Lemming
>Yeah I know. I was just trying to goad Lem into attacking me, I get
>such a thrill when he humiliates me on the group.
You are such a tart. It's what I like about you.
--
Lemming
Curiosity *may* have killed Schrödinger's cat.
Lemming
I have you know a lemming's fishy bits would roll anyone's mop. But
then, you know that, don't you Brad?
Lemming
Not to mention some more pigeon poo on that "Statue of Limitations".
C Dobbels
I thought Lemming WAS our quadruped agent?
Dick Garage
wrote:
>If people bring children into this flamewar I
>would completely understand if this went into
>real life with real criminal investigations,
>real court orders, real police officers
>asking questions.
Criminal investigations over name-calling?
Bwahahahahahahhaha!
Get real fer chrissakes.
Russy
"Tom Beckmann" <tbec...@frontier.co.uk> wrote in message
news:FRNT240...@frontier.co.uk...
Small lemmings of the sea hold no fascination for me (on zoological OR
dietary levels).
what does this have to do with space-sim games?????
Louis J.M
<di...@garage.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2001 12:11:17 +0100, "Tom Beckmann" <tbec...@frontier.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>If people bring children into this flamewar I
>>would completely understand if this went into
>>real life with real criminal investigations,
>>real court orders, real police officers
>>asking questions.
>
> Criminal investigations over name-calling?
>
> Bwahahahahahahhaha!
>
> Get real fer chrissakes.
You know what's absoloutely funny; after Derek claimed he allegedly 'moved'
because he was 'afraid of me', he not only posted his new address shortly
afterward, but also let us all know about his daughter.
He even sent pictures to a few 'stalkers'.
.-~~-.____ Louis J.M
/ | ' \
( ) O _
\_/-, ,----' // E-Mail: Lou...@worldnet.att.net
==== ___// AIM : Zsinj
/ \-'~; /~~~(O) ---------------------------------------------------
/ __/~| __/ | "Strength does not come from physical capacity. It
==(______| (_________| comes from an indomitable will." - Ghandi
C Dobbels
Space-simers are forward (!) looking people willing to go where none have
gone before, and eat things no one has eaten before!
Bill HuffBot
> "Jim Gerlach" <act...@localline.com> wrote in message
In my opinion Captain Kirk's statement that it happened 14.1 years
ago should be as forgotten as toilet paper. Sometime before August
29, 1999 Phd Fraud suffered some personal trauma or sadness. Are you
proud of the fact that you jumped to the defense of an academic fraud
who racist remark? Mr. Smart, I'm waiting for you to point out one
lie about a forged crank call evidence. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
This is lies. I never said Master is as evil as LouisJM. LouisJM
thinks that after 9.4 years we should ignore the fact that Master lies
to everyone. Master can be a downright charming asshole when he wants
to be. On May 10, 1995, Derek Smart forges racist email at the
expense of Trainman50. I have proof on my website. Even the most
dedicated Derek toadies might recover and rebel against Taco Supreme
Commander if they were allowed to think on their own. It took 2.3
years, but I've counted every character that Derek has written on the
internet over the past 2.3 years, and I have concluded he is Osama Bin
Laden. Maybe I can park my trailer in your driveway now? Derek can
be a downright charming asshole when he wants to be. The Toadies are
mostly just making up lies about the messenger instead of addressing
the message. I was just trying to stay on topic, you Slime trail
toadies. You are a Master lover. BTW, Taco Supreme Commander claims
not to have tried to post to the internet in a long time. His last
toothbrushing occurred 14.1 seconds ago. I have proof on my website.
You are a Master lover. On October 21, 1999, Mr. Smart destroys the
planet at the expense of Trainman50. I have proof on my website. My
opinion is that the inescapable conclusion is that Master forges
racist email. Are you proud of the fact that you jumped to the
defense of an academic fraud who destroys the planet? Here are two
versions of the exact same email sent to Daktari by Derek. Derek
himself posted both versions. I have proof. When a person isn't
sorry for his racist email forgery other things shouldn't be
forgotten. Actually NONE of the Sycophants have said anything except
nonsense and insults. Prove to me there's bullshit said by me about
your beloved Derek Smart and I will take down my web site. Maybe I
can park my trailer in your driveway now? Come on you Peewee
Commanders. Come on you Toadies. Let's get to the good stuff.
Master commits destroys the planet. I have proof. Master can be a
downright charming asshole when he wants to be. You are a Taco
Supreme Commander lover. Even the most dedicated Liars might recover
and rebel against Derek if they were allowed to think on their own.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I don't lie. I have great respect for the
truth, purely as a demonstration. Are you proud of the fact that you
jumped to the defense of an academic fraud who forged crank call
evidence? In my opinion Deterrent's statement that it happened 9.4
years ago should be as forgotten as toilet paper. August 29, 1999 I
fired the first volley in the PhD wars.
Ron
> angle is wayyyy too old to keep dredging up. How about a statue of
> limitations on it? For God's sake, you remind me of the 1977 Elvis
> show, when he was just a shadow of himself, singing old songs in a
> tired voice. Get over it already! You just wait until I get my copy
> of BCM as well as hundreds of thousands of others from other game
> buyers. DS will be able to buy and sell people like you and you will
> be proven to be the old blow hard that we all know you are, so there!
My only question is, what the hell does a "statue of limitations" depict?
And would any self-respecting bird deem it worthy of defecation?
Ron
"Lemming" <l3m...@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:99l0ttkd2m4u9ci4t...@4ax.com...
> Brad Martin <br...@zakalwe.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Not bad Jim, but you're going to need a little bit more venom.
>
> Not to mention some more pigeon poo on that "Statue of Limitations".
>
> --
> Lemming
>
> Curiosity *may* have killed Schrödinger's cat.
Damn! Trumped by a fucking rodent.
Allan Parent
San Antonio and as I was driving through town I thought to myself Tex-Mex
rollmops.....I could be to rollmops what Col. Sanders was to chicken!
Allan
"Russy" <russa...@qwest.net> wrote in message
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>
alvaro rodriguez
"Derek Smart (3000AD)" <dsm...@pobox.com> wrote in message
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> On 18 Oct 2001 10:48:35 -0700, act...@localline.com (Jim Gerlach)
> wrote:
>
>
> >games. In the mean time, I will not stand for any more criticism of
> >the SC from any of you scumbags. F*** all of you. (God this is fun!)
>
> LOL!!
>
> Damn, that was funny. You're not so bad after all. And thanks for your
> support (for buying the game, that is).
>
> uhm, does that mean I have to let you back on the site then? If you
> promise to behave, I just might :-)
>
>
>
> Designer/Lead Developer
>
> Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build
> bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce
> bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. - Rich Cook
Derek, the Universe called. It's running out of idiots, and it's looking for
you.
Al
Tom Beckmann
"Dick Garage" <di...@garage.invalid> wrote in message
news:tt1np76...@corp.supernews.com...
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2001 12:11:17 +0100, "Tom Beckmann"
<tbec...@frontier.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >If people bring children into this flamewar I
> >would completely understand if this went into
> >real life with real criminal investigations,
> >real court orders, real police officers
> >asking questions.
>
> Criminal investigations over name-calling?
>
> Bwahahahahahahhaha!
>
> Get real fer chrissakes.
>
All I'm doing is asking people to leave children
out of this.
To understand why, find someone who is the parent
of a young child and ask them what they would do
to protect their child.
_______________
Tom.
Bill Huffman
Very true but how protective is a person going to get when their child is a
fabrication?
Tom Beckmann
There is more than one participant in this group
who is a parent. I think that *all* the children
should be kept out of the flame war by *all* of
the participants.
If DKS is a father, then he has a right and duty
to protect his child. He has not brought her into
the flame war and mentioned her only a couple of
times (IIRC).
Lemming has said he has seen photos of them, and
I think of him as a credible source.
Given that the child might exist, why not try to
keep her out of it.
Also....do you think it would be okay for DKS to
drag someone elses child into this? He has no
evidence that they exist.
You better think carefully about the answer, it
would be a shame to loose you to a hypocritum
overdose.
Why not ask him whether his trees have AI instead,
and how it affects their flocking algorithm?
______________
Tom
Jim Gerlach
> "Bill Huffman" <bhuf...@REMOVE-THISsan.rr.com> wrote in message news:<i2Yz7.42893$T24.19...@typhoon.san.rr.com>...
> > "Jim Gerlach" <act...@localline.com> wrote in message
>
> In my opinion Captain Kirk's statement that it happened 14.1 years
> ago should be as forgotten as toilet paper. Sometime before August
> 29, 1999 Phd Fraud suffered some personal trauma or sadness. Are you
> proud of the fact that you jumped to the defense of an academic fraud
> who racist remark? Mr. Smart, I'm waiting for you to point out one
> lie about a forged crank call evidence. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
(Uncontrolable laughter, first sign of dymentia)
(more uncontrolable laughter)
I don't lie. I have great respect for the
> truth, purely as a demonstration. Are you proud of the fact that you
> jumped to the defense of an academic fraud who forged crank call
> evidence? In my opinion Deterrent's statement that it happened 9.4
> years ago should be as forgotten as toilet paper. August 29, 1999 I
> fired the first volley in the PhD wars.
I count 4 references to fraud, 4 to racisim and 2 about trailers.
Combined with uncontrolable laughter, I'm afraid we've got one sick,
infatuated redneck here folks.
Jim
Tom Beckmann
> On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 16:37:05 +0100, "Tom Beckmann"
> <tbec...@frontier.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Lemming has said he has seen photos of them, and
> >I think of him as a credible source.
>
> I have a picture of me with Bill Gates. Does that make him my Dad ?
>
No it doesn't.
I am not arguing that DKS is a father,
but there is some evidence that he is.
I was trying to argue for some restraint.
I simply don't think that it is right to
let children become the ammunition in
this argument.
It devalues them.
___________________
Tom
Lemming
In order to prove fabrication, you have to potentially invade the
child's privacy. If the child isn't a fabrication (and let's face it,
getting a girl pregnant is hardly rocket science - you don't need a
Ph.D. to do it, right?) then the invasion of privacy becomes a real
issue. Is that how you want to conduct yourself in "the flame war"
Bill?
Lemming
>I count 4 references to fraud, 4 to racisim and 2 about trailers.
>Combined with uncontrolable laughter, I'm afraid we've got one sick,
>infatuated redneck here folks.
I agree. But I'm sure with plenty of TLC you'll pull through just
fine, Jim.
Lemming
>On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:51:39 +0100, "Tom Beckmann"
><tbec...@frontier.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>> He saw a photo of Derek and a small child. Hardly proves it was his.
>>> I have a picture of me with Bill Gates. Does that make him my Dad ?
>>>
>>
>>No it doesn't.
>
>DAMN !!
>>
>>I am not arguing that DKS is a father,
>>but there is some evidence that he is.
>
>No there isn't
>>
>>I was trying to argue for some restraint.
>
>From what ? You seem to be the only one freaking out here. ;)
>>
>>I simply don't think that it is right to
>>let children become the ammunition in
>>this argument.
>
>ahhh but *this* argument is about derek being a major liar. NOT
>children.
>You are aware that births records are Public records correct ?
>
>Maybe you should try to have that changed as ANY person can find out
>who *YOURS* or my children are with a few clicks of a mouse and a
>credit card. If they have your name, address and place of birth, it is
>even easier than easy.
>
>BTW MR NOT So Smart as supplies all this infomation to the world, the
>silly twit.
>
>And again just because someone proves Derek is lying again doesn't
>mean any children would be brought into the flame war. Because if he
>is lying he would have NONE.
>
>>
>>It devalues them.
>What do I care ? I just found out Bill Gates isn't my father and there
>fore have no value ;(
I don't understand why this is so important to you. Like I said, it's
not rocket science. Anyone can be a father. It's not a big deal.
And if it's a lie, so what, it's just another one.
Bill Huffman
>
> "Bill Huffman" <bhuf...@REMOVE-THISsan.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:JrWA7.44338$T24.21...@typhoon.san.rr.com...
> > "Tom Beckmann" <tbec...@frontier.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:FRNT247...@frontier.co.uk...
> > > To understand why, find someone who is the parent
> > > of a young child and ask them what they would do
> > > to protect their child.
> >
> > Very true but how protective is a person going to get when their child is
> > a fabrication?
> >
>
> There is more than one participant in this group
> who is a parent. I think that *all* the children
> should be kept out of the flame war by *all* of
> the participants.
>
> If DKS is a father, then he has a right and duty
> to protect his child. He has not brought her into
> the flame war and mentioned her only a couple of
> times (IIRC).
I don't think anyone has proposed any danger or harm come to any child?
> Lemming has said he has seen photos of them, and
> I think of him as a credible source.
Lemming is a very credible source. The problem is that all he's apparently seen
is a picture of Mr. Smart holding a baby. Here's the instances I can think of
where it's known that Mr. Smart has fabricated evidence and claimed that it
proved something that it did not.
1) Forged racist email.
2) Screen shot of forged racist email with scroll bar in the wrong place
allegedly because of a "desktop resizing utility" that Mr. Smart cannot name.
3) Photos of crank calls showing phone with caller id that does not have an area
code on it but Mr. Smart claims that he knows the area code anyway.
There are many more examples where he has produced evidence and claimed it
proved something when it really didn't but I don't think anything was forged.
Has he forged other evidence? I don't know but I suspect the picture he sent to
Lemming was a simple providing evidence and claiming it proved something that it
really didn't.
> Given that the child might exist, why not try to
> keep her out of it.
I haven't done anything to try to prove this is just another Derek Smart
fabrication.
> Also....do you think it would be okay for DKS to
> drag someone elses child into this? He has no
> evidence that they exist.
If I claimed something on-line, I consider it reasonable if someone was inclined
to try and verify the truth of the statement using any legal means available to
them. After all when someone lies it it is relevant to being able to depend on
the veracity of future statements.
> You better think carefully about the answer, it
> would be a shame to loose you to a hypocritum
> overdose.
In order for hypocritium to be produced it usually takes a special individual
that has lambasted and flamed some particular action and then they go and do
that exact same action themselves.
> Why not ask him whether his trees have AI instead,
> and how it affects their flocking algorithm?
I've suggested to Mr. Smart on a number of occasions that he would be better off
calling his AI engine a sim engine. That way he wouldn't look silly when he said
that in BCM the asteroids have their own simulation routine instead he looks
like an incompetent bonehead when he says that in BCM the asteroids have AI.
Bill Huffman
...
> I am not arguing that DKS is a father,
> but there is some evidence that he is.
The best evidence that he is, happens to be Mr. Smart's word. IMHO, because Mr.
Smart sends a picture of him with a baby to Lemming it doesn't prove anything.
If anything based on Mr. Smart's past behavior I'd say that it casts further
doubt on him being a real father.
> I was trying to argue for some restraint.
I understand and consider your call for some restraint to be reasonable.
> I simply don't think that it is right to
> let children become the ammunition in
> this argument.
>
> It devalues them.
I don't think I'd really agree with that.
From my point of view the main reasons to not check on it are:
1) It's a hassle
2) There's plenty of other known lies that Mr. Smart spews
3) If Mr. Smart wasn't lying then Mr. Smart could conceivably get very upset (if
he found out)
4) Some people (like Tom and Lemming) might consider it some kind of escalation
in the flame war
The reasons to check on it are:
1) It would be funny if it did turn out to a fabrication.
Now I'm very much into a good laugh but I don't think the laugh would be big
enough to overcome the first con, let alone all of them.
I actually think that the whole topic is funny because it has been a couple
years and no one (that I know of) has bothered to check. So I think it is funny
that anyone actually thinks that someone might check on it now.
Bill Huffman
> On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:51:39 +0100, "Tom Beckmann"
> <tbec...@frontier.co.uk> wrote:
...
> >It devalues them.
>
> What do I care ? I just found out Bill Gates isn't my father and there
> fore have no value ;(
bp, you still have some small value to some of us at least.
Bill Huffman
What? Who the parents are of a child is not invading a child's privacy. This is
the LEAST private thing about a child. When a child is discussed on the news
(for example) they might not give the childs name or show their picture, their
parent is talking to the camera instead. I disagree that this is even an issue
about a child's privacy.
Also where did I say that I was going to check on this? Where did I say that I
even wish others should go check on it? All I'm saying is that I don't see how
the issue has anything to do with any child's privacy.
Bill Huffman
> billh...@hotmail.com (Bill HuffBot) wrote in message
news:<f05b398a.01102...@posting.google.com>...
> Jim
BTW Jim, congratulations on your PhD in Derekology.
Louis J.M
<bhuf...@REMOVE-THISsan.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Given that the child might exist, why not try to
>> keep her out of it.
>
> I haven't done anything to try to prove this is just another Derek Smart
> fabrication
I consider it a moot point myself; I just brought it still baffles me why
any (sane) person who felt threatened enough to contact the State Attorney
about 'stalking and harassment' about users on this newsgroup, then turn
around and post messages describing his newborn daughter and send a few of
the very same people he was threatning these charges against photographs of
said child.
Louis J.M
.-~~-.____
/ | ' \ E-Mail: Lou...@worldnet.att.net
( ) O _ AIM : Zsinj
\_/-, ,----' // ----------------------------------------------------
==== ___// "Americans have the will to resist because you have
/ \-'~; /~~~(O) weapons. If you don't have a gun, freedom of speech
/ __/~| __/ | has no power." - Yoshimi Ishikawa, Japanese Author,
==(______| (_________| Los Angeles Times, Oct 15, 1992.
Louis J.M
<bhuf...@REMOVE-THISsan.rr.com> wrote:
Well, if it was a lie - and that is definitely a possibility - the motive
would have been at the time to gain sympathy and some leverage against me.
Doth quoteth the fraud:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=dsmart%40pobox.com+louis+family+moved&hl=e
n&rnum=1&selm=usuoesckahp68vgc3jf9l2be4omsd3qb4q%404ax.com
"Actually, my previous address (the one I just moved from and which
Louis knows about), is a 3+1 bedroom, 2-floor duplex in a community.
At $1750 a month (2 closed garages at $95/month, inclusive), it was
one of the most expensive communities in the neighborhood because of
where it is located. And because it is accessible from the main
Flamingo Road conduit and the managemnt office leaves the gate open in
the day, thats how he got in that time.
Where I moved to on 2-1-00 is a house by itself with a security gate
and my office is a ways off. With that psycho Louis out there, living
less than 15 mins from me and being prompted by Huffman to come to my
house (prev address), I ain't taking any chances with my family,
especially with a baby now in the house. Which is why I took my
complain to the State Attorney."
You'll notice at the time Derek was telling us all about his new security
system while spewing more legal threats in my direction and whining about
the safety of his 'family' and him moving to a different location, because
of me, which, amusingly enough, he also revealed.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=dsmart%40pobox.com+louis+threat+family&hl=
en&rnum=2&selm=0rn7ntod10e037n2dquol2cqrkuqarr2ac%404ax.com
"While I understand what you're saying, I have to disagree vehemently.
Louis poses a real world threat to me and my family. I have moved
homes once, because of him. Now he's posting maps of my house etc, my
home's perimeter alarm gets falsely triggered etc. AND, despite ALL
the police reports, warnings, attorney letters etc, he just won't
*quit*. To me, he wants to see how far he can push me. He'll soon find
out."
.-~~-.____ Louis J.M
/ | ' \
( ) O _
\_/-, ,----' // E-Mail: Lou...@worldnet.att.net
==== ___// AIM : Zsinj
/ \-'~; /~~~(O) ---------------------------------------------------
/ __/~| __/ | "Those people who think they know everything are a
==(______| (_________| great annoyance to those of us who do." - Asimov
Bill Huffman
"Louis J.M" <Lou...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:fp5B7.79597$WW.40...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> In article <Eu3B7.45919$T24.21...@typhoon.san.rr.com> , "Bill Huffman"
> <bhuf...@REMOVE-THISsan.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >> Given that the child might exist, why not try to
> >> keep her out of it.
> >
> > I haven't done anything to try to prove this is just another Derek Smart
> > fabrication
>
> I consider it a moot point myself; I just brought it still baffles me why
> any (sane) person who felt threatened enough to contact the State Attorney
> about 'stalking and harassment' about users on this newsgroup, then turn
> around and post messages describing his newborn daughter and send a few of
> the very same people he was threatning these charges against photographs of
> said child.
I agree just more information that indicates to me that Derek Smart's duaghter
is just a fabrication. He tries to paint a picture of himself that is just a
facade with little basis in reality. His alleged daughter I believe is probably
just another example of this.
Rico
>
> I agree just more information that indicates to me that Derek Smart's
duaghter
> is just a fabrication. He tries to paint a picture of himself that is just
a
> facade with little basis in reality. His alleged daughter I believe is
probably
> just another example of this.
>
No, I think you're wrong on this. According to the CGW article on DKS, the
author saw the house, interior, etc. He quite clearly says DKS's fiance and
baby daughter live there with him.
While there are numerous logical and factual errors in the piece, this one
would be difficult to get wrong.
Louis J.M
<bhuf...@REMOVE-THISsan.rr.com> wrote:
>
> "Louis J.M" <Lou...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:fp5B7.79597$WW.40...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> In article <Eu3B7.45919$T24.21...@typhoon.san.rr.com> , "Bill Huffman"
>> <bhuf...@REMOVE-THISsan.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >> Given that the child might exist, why not try to
>> >> keep her out of it.
>> >
>> > I haven't done anything to try to prove this is just another Derek Smart
>> > fabrication
>>
>> I consider it a moot point myself; I just brought it still baffles me why
>> any (sane) person who felt threatened enough to contact the State Attorney
>> about 'stalking and harassment' about users on this newsgroup, then turn
>> around and post messages describing his newborn daughter and send a few of
>> the very same people he was threatning these charges against photographs of
>> said child.
>
> I agree just more information that indicates to me that Derek Smart's duaghter
> is just a fabrication. He tries to paint a picture of himself that is just a
> facade with little basis in reality. His alleged daughter I believe is
probably
> just another example of this.
Then who was the baby in the picture with Smart that he allegedly sent
Lemming? Bill, ask Lemming if he still has that photo. This looks like
another hilarious chapter in the Flamewar Follies.
.-~~-.____ Louis J.M
/ | ' \
( ) O _ E-Mail: Lou...@Worldnet.att.net
\_/-, ,----' // AIM : Zsinj
==== ___// ----------------------------------------------------
/ \-'~; /~~~(O) "You can believe anything you want. The universe is
/ __/~| __/ | not obliged to keep a straight face."
==(______| (_________| - Soloman Short
Jag
wrote:
>
>"Bill Huffman" <bhuf...@REMOVE-THISsan.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:K06B7.45945
>>
>> I agree just more information that indicates to me that Derek Smart's
>duaghter
>> is just a fabrication. He tries to paint a picture of himself that is just
>a
>> facade with little basis in reality. His alleged daughter I believe is
>probably
>> just another example of this.
>>
>
>No, I think you're wrong on this. According to the CGW article on DKS, the
>author saw the house, interior, etc. He quite clearly says DKS's fiance and
>baby daughter live there with him.
I thought a fiance was someone to whom you are engaged and plan to get
married???
Tom Beckmann
> On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:51:39 +0100, "Tom Beckmann"
> <tbec...@frontier.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> He saw a photo of Derek and a small child. Hardly proves it was his.
> >> I have a picture of me with Bill Gates. Does that make him my Dad ?
> >>
> >
> >No it doesn't.
>
> >
> >I am not arguing that DKS is a father,
> >but there is some evidence that he is.
>
> >
> >I was trying to argue for some restraint.
>
Its okay... I'm on the other side of the pond.
Unless the freedom to bear arms extends to
cruise missiles, I'm beyond the reach of most
of the flamewar participants (the flamewarts).
> >
> >I simply don't think that it is right to
> >let children become the ammunition in
> >this argument.
>
> ahhh but *this* argument is about derek being a major liar. NOT
> children.
Then why not exercise your investigative
powers on other areas.
My concern is not for DKS.
It is for his child, and the other
children of the flamewarts.
> You are aware that births records are Public records correct ?
>
> Maybe you should try to have that changed as ANY person can find out
> who *YOURS* or my children are with a few clicks of a mouse and a
> credit card. If they have your name, address and place of birth, it is
> even easier than easy.
>
Please wait a few days to think through the issues,
and then if you still feel so strongly about it then
pay the money and get the information.
I'm sure you'll then report here to either denounce
DKS, or appologise profusely.
> BTW MR NOT So Smart as supplies all this infomation to the world, the
> silly twit.
>
> And again just because someone proves Derek is lying again doesn't
> mean any children would be brought into the flame war. Because if he
> is lying he would have NONE.
>
Once you start using children as ammunition,
you can't limit how they are used, so when
DKS or a supporter starts investigating someone
elses child, and in true flamewar style, the
abuse and threats escalate.... will that be
okay?
> >
> >It devalues them.
> What do I care ? I just found out Bill Gates isn't my father and there
> fore have no value ;(
I don't think that even if big bill was your
father you'd have any intrinsic value ;)
____________
Tom
alvaro rodriguez
along with a 3k word rant on privacy and some remarks about that train that
no one seems to find. Is it Thomas the tank engine, or the little engine
that could?
Al
"Bill Huffman" <bhuf...@REMOVE-THISsan.rr.com> wrote in message
news:zT3B7.45925$T24.21...@typhoon.san.rr.com...
Tom Beckmann
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:56:12 +0100, "Tom Beckmann"
>
You say DKS is a major liar.
Show it in one of the (many) other areas he rants about
> >
> >My concern is not for DKS.
> >
> >It is for his child,
> I don't believe he has one.
>
> >and the other
> >children of the flamewarts.
>
> Flamewarts ??
See earlier in my post: > flamewar participants (the flamewarts).
I did it as a typo, and couldn't resist using it!
> >
> >> You are aware that births records are Public records correct ?
> >>
> >> Maybe you should try to have that changed as ANY person can find out
> >> who *YOURS* or my children are with a few clicks of a mouse and a
> >> credit card. If they have your name, address and place of birth, it is
> >> even easier than easy.
> >>
> >
> >Please wait a few days to think through the issues,
> >and then if you still feel so strongly about it then
> >pay the money and get the information.
>
> *sign* have you even read my post ? The first one on this subject to
> blunt.
>
Yes I read your post.
Thats why I responded.
>
> >
> >I'm sure you'll then report here to either denounce
> >DKS, or appologise profusely.
>
> What would I appologise for ?
If DKS is lying you can denounce him for that.
If he his telling the truth, you could appologise
for calling him a liar (over this issue).
>
>
> >
> >> BTW MR NOT So Smart as supplies all this infomation to the world, the
> >> silly twit.
> >>
> >> And again just because someone proves Derek is lying again doesn't
> >> mean any children would be brought into the flame war. Because if he
> >> is lying he would have NONE.
> >>
> >
> >Once you start using children as ammunition,
>
> What children ?
Any child.
Remember that DKS, or anyone else can also play this game too.
>
> >you can't limit how they are used, so when
> >DKS or a supporter starts investigating someone
> >elses child, and in true flamewar style, the
> >abuse and threats escalate.... will that be
> >okay?
>
> I'm a stalker, remember?
DKS has called you a stalker....
so you become one?
Thank god he didn't accuse you of
being an arsonist!
> Tom, is that your real name ??? = ;-0
No. It is Thomas.
Tom is a long term alias used by me IRL
:|
>
>
> >
> >> >
> >> >It devalues them.
> >> What do I care ? I just found out Bill Gates isn't my father and there
> >> fore have no value ;(
> >
> >I don't think that even if big bill was your
> >father you'd have any intrinsic value ;)
>
> Who cares?
> I could have him bankroll my career as a game devoloper and pretend
> to be the greatest devoloper of all times.....and a dad.
Sod that... I'd have him bank roll my career as
a holiday reviewer. Naturally I'd have to do a LOT
of research. I think I'd start with a world tour
of wine producing regions, followed by a worldwide
sight seeing tour before concentrating on any particular
area.
______________
Tom
pjl
calling themselves rrevved ", did cause
<4saatt8npc2uvuq80...@4ax.com> to appear on my glass typewriter
and spake thus:
>
>On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 21:23:36 GMT, bp <6b...@home.com> wrote:
>
>>If I'm going to be called a stalker I feel like I should actually act like one.
>
>We're 'doin' the time', so we may as well be 'doin' the crime'
>
>:)
>
I hear the theme to the TV show Baretta...
Maybe that could be the New Detractor anthem.
pjl
change $ to s to email
coming soon! the exciting conclusion to A Battlecruiser Named Desire!
http://www.geocities.com/dosferatu_pjl/ABCND.html
ji...@hgea.org
<alr...@mediaone.net> wrote:
>"Derek Smart (3000AD)" <dsm...@pobox.com> wrote in message
>news:3220tto4afsl2n72i...@4ax.com...
>> On 18 Oct 2001 10:48:35 -0700, act...@localline.com (Jim Gerlach)
>> wrote:
>> >games. In the mean time, I will not stand for any more criticism of
>> >the SC from any of you scumbags. F*** all of you. (God this is fun!)
>> LOL!!
>> Damn, that was funny. You're not so bad after all. And thanks for your
>> support (for buying the game, that is).
>>
>> uhm, does that mean I have to let you back on the site then? If you
>> promise to behave, I just might :-)
>
>Derek, the Universe called. It's running out of idiots, and it's looking for
>you.
Catch a rerun of Seinfeld?
alvaro rodriguez
<ji...@hgea.org> wrote in message
news:oaabtt0a511dtujaa...@4ax.com...
episode, maybe George would get caught up in Derek's web of lies as he's
offered a job at the Taco Palace. Later he gets involved in the flamewar and
realizes that his boss is using him so he becomes a detractor and a
permanent resident of the Cyberstalking site. After losing his job he goes
bananas when Jerry finds out about the site. Jerry promises not to tell
anyone but can't resist.
AL
Xan
news:Ds6B7.2072$s4.9...@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> No, I think you're wrong on this. According to the CGW article on DKS, the
> author saw the house, interior, etc. He quite clearly says DKS's fiance and
> baby daughter live there with him.
>
> While there are numerous logical and factual errors in the piece, this one
> would be difficult to get wrong.
True; however...
[Look out, Mr. AG, it's a numbered list!!!]
1) IMO, CGW is every bit as credible as Derek.
2) Even if the guy isn't lying through his teeth, seeing the kid proves just
as much as seeing a picture of the kid with Derek.
// Xan, Ph.D.
// I worship His Shadow.
Lemming
>Hey Toady where did I say it was important to me ?
>
>But now that you mention it. If I'm going to be called a stalker I
>feel like I should actually act like one. Now maybe if my <snicker>
>alias wasn't on a certain web site, maybe I would feel different.
>(You know like you and your 180.)
There wasn't any 180, I'm right where I was at the start WRT the
stalker site, as you well know. But even if it was the case, it is
irrelevant to the current discussion. You will recall I maintained
this same position the first time you wanted to track down this
particular infant.
>Now go report back to your SC with my demands or else!.
Louis J.M
rodriguez" <alr...@mediaone.net> wrote:
> I think that if he had a child he would have made legal threats by now to go
> along with a 3k word rant on privacy and some remarks about that train that
> no one seems to find. Is it Thomas the tank engine, or the little engine
> that could?
LOL.
Louis J.M
.-~~-.____
/ | ' \ E-Mail: Lou...@worldnet.att.net
( ) O _ AIM : Zsinj
\_/-, ,----' // ----------------------------------------------------
==== ___// "The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic
/ \-'~; /~~~(O) is no more to the point then the fact that a drunken
/ __/~| __/ | man is happier than a sober one."
==(______| (_________| - George Bernard Shaw
Louis J.M
<6b...@home.com> wrote:
> That's so sweeeet !
Of course your important BP - every great album needs mediocre tracks
between the ones that are hit singles.
AG
news:6ziB7.80141$WW.41...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> "Rico" <Troop...@bugplanet.com> wrote in message
> news:Ds6B7.2072$s4.9...@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > No, I think you're wrong on this. According to the CGW article on DKS,
the
> > author saw the house, interior, etc. He quite clearly says DKS's fiance
and
> > baby daughter live there with him.
> >
> > While there are numerous logical and factual errors in the piece, this
one
> > would be difficult to get wrong.
>
> True; however...
>
> [Look out, Mr. AG, it's a numbered list!!!]
*BING*
I'm watching you. Derek's been tame with his lists lately so you just had
to go and fill in for him, didn't you?
Bill Huffman
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:21:54 GMT, "Xan" <m...@1.com> wrote:
>
> >2) Even if the guy isn't lying through his teeth, seeing the kid proves just
> >as much as seeing a picture of the kid with Derek.
>
Exactly what I was thinking. When it comes to issues of the perception and
definition of who this Derek Smart guy is, Mr. Smart is very consist in his
lies. If he lied on this forum about having a perpetual fiance and a kid then
I'd expect him to lie to some guy coming over to his house. From Derek Smart the
NPD's perspective this would be just defining who he is. Truth and reality are
secondary issues and would just be used to "twist the premise" by the
detractors.
Xan
The exact quote is as follows...
..: Derek Smart, now 38 years old, lives in a new home in one of these gated
communities with his fiancé and his baby daughter. :..
That's all it says about this matter.
Xan
news:e9nB7.108005$oa2.34...@news2.rdc1.ab.home.com...
> *BING*
Ack!!!
> I'm watching you.
(massive *GULP*)
> Derek's been tame with his lists lately so you just had
> to go and fill in for him, didn't you?
Yup. =)
AG
> "AG" <a...@me.ca> wrote in message
> news:e9nB7.108005$oa2.34...@news2.rdc1.ab.home.com...
> > *BING*
>
> Ack!!!
>
> > I'm watching you.
>
> (massive *GULP*)
>
> > Derek's been tame with his lists lately so you just had
> > to go and fill in for him, didn't you?
>
> Yup. =)
Hey, just because I haven't posted in this flamewar for *months* doesn't
mean I'm not stalk^H^H^H^H^Hwatching you.
*BING*
And in case it didn't take...
*BING BING BING*
And what did I say about no numbered lists in post bodies?? Behave yourself
while you're on MY damned *usenet*. *BUNG* whoops *BING*
C Dobbels
> > I decided to reorder BCM (is that like being replonked?) after finally
> > realizing that DS is a marketing genius! Why the change in heart you
> > ask? Well, I was directed to this web site
> > www.werewolves.org/~follies~/ and after much reading, and damn near
> > crying from hysterical laughter, I decided DS had earned my $50,
> > regardless if the game even works. I had no idea that the BC series
> > wasn't the game, but in fact DS himself is the interactive GAME (read
> > this if you don't know what I'm talking about)
> > http://follies.werewolves.org/archives/1Humor/BC3Kfaq.txt (this is one
> > of the best pieces of satire I've ever read BTW). I wanna play! I
> > inadvertantly started out as a detractor without even knowing it, but
> > I see from the follies, that I can switch sides multiple times if
> > necessary. While being a detractor is what comes naturally, I think
> > the Bright side would be more fun and challenging. I mean, it takes a
> > lot of thought to figure out ways to defend some of his suppositions.
> > This six year flame war is the best advertising anyone could possibly
> > ask for, so for that, I salute you SC! Come on guys, think how much
> > time and energy that he puts into all the posts across cyberspace for
> > your enjoyment? If nothing else, by ordering the game it may give you
> > plenty of fuel to fill your flametanks. I just can't believe that I
> > was naive enough to believe that DS was actually as a** instead of
> > realizing that he is just playing his part in the interactive game?
> > What an idiot I was to fall for it! This whole thing kind of reminds
> > me of my college days when we used to go to the "Rocky Horror" nights
> > at the movies. Everyone knew the part they wanted to play and had a
> > great time with it. Sure it was outrageous, but no harm was done
> > other than to the hapless saps who had to clean the theater
> > afterwards. Derek deserves you support for his efforts and he
> > certainly has mine. I'm serious. If he goes hungry, no more fun and
> > games. In the mean time, I will not stand for any more criticism of
> > the SC from any of you scumbags. F*** all of you. (God this is fun!)
> >
>
>
Better move fast! I checked a second local EB, the display boxes (with
the multiplayer option) have been trashed. The game is 6 months late and
EB's "exclusive" distributor status was for 2001 only. If EB dosen't get
a "full" year from the date of delivery (any day now, just you wait),
they could pull the product on Dec. 31 and return it to BC3K Inc.
Worse yet, the PC section of ALL the stores is shrinking. This includes
Best Buy, Babbages/Software Etc., AND EB. BCM if competing against the
other NEW games AND the rerelease of Lucas Arts Star War "Classics"
If EB isn't "allowed" to have it's "exclusivity", the game could be
gone very quickly. The "preorders" might barely cover production costs,
and there might not be any copies on the shelves ANYWHERE!
The "Dream" started in 1960, its only reaching it's "hype" NOW (and
day now, just you wait) AND it's broken. The MP patch won't be delivered
for 6 months, if then, and by then it could be too little, too late.
A broken BC3K 1.0, a (mostly) working BC3K 2.0, and a crippled BCM,
third strike at bat.
Hurry, hurry, hurry, for the Greatest Show on Earth, the BattleCruiser
Story. You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll walk away dazed. NO REFUNDS!
BTW, the Flamewar Follies is NOT satire, it's FACT. Actual quotes, real
time reporting.
Jag
wrote:
Didnt you know? Derek has already got a massive number of pre orders,
someone from his international seller, BMT said they already had 60
(sixty) international pre orders!!! I predict that Derek may even sell
200 copies of BCM!!!
Ron
> In article <jrnatt02gnsdiu2cr...@4ax.com> , bp
> <6b...@home.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 01:31:10 GMT, "Bill Huffman"
> > <bhuf...@REMOVE-THISsan.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"bp" <6b...@home.com> wrote in message
> >>news:79r8tt4416r0clmdq...@4ax.com...
> >>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:51:39 +0100, "Tom Beckmann"
> >>> <tbec...@frontier.co.uk> wrote:
> >>...
> >>> >It devalues them.
> >>>
> >>> What do I care ? I just found out Bill Gates isn't my father and there
> >>> fore have no value ;(
> >>
> >>bp, you still have some small value to some of us at least.
> >>
> > That's so sweeeet !
>
> Of course your important BP - every great album needs mediocre tracks
> between the ones that are hit singles.
>
> .-~~-.____ Louis J.M
I believe the word you're looking for is "filler".
Xan
> Hey, just because I haven't posted in this flamewar for *months* doesn't
> mean I'm not stalk^H^H^H^H^Hwatching you.
(gets all scared)
> *BING*
Ow!
> And in case it didn't take...
>
> *BING BING BING*
EEK! =^H
> And what did I say about no numbered lists in post bodies?? Behave yourself
> while you're on MY damned *usenet*. *BUNG* whoops *BING*
Sorry, I'm so sorry, Divine Shadow. I promise to behave -- until next time.
// Xan, Ph.D.
// As you command, Divine Shadow.
Bill Huffman
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2001 00:54:57 GMT, "Bill Huffman"
> <bhuf...@REMOVE-THISsan.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"bp" <6b...@home.com> wrote in message
> >news:goqbtt02vj8dhnalu...@4ax.com...
> >> On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:21:54 GMT, "Xan" <m...@1.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >2) Even if the guy isn't lying through his teeth, seeing the kid proves
just
> >> >as much as seeing a picture of the kid with Derek.
> >>
> >> Did he see them or did Derek tell him ?
> >
> >Exactly what I was thinking. When it comes to issues of the perception and
> >definition of who this Derek Smart guy is,
>
> >Mr. Smart is very consist in his lies.
>
What I mean is that he lied he had a PhD. He's consistently repeats that lie. He
lied back in 1995 that he was working on a first person shooter add-on to his
game and multiplayer, etc. He continues those statements with BCM now. He claims
that he was/is wealthy. Even after his bankruptcy was exposed he continues to
try to paint that perception. He claims to be brilliant and an AI expert even
though it was shown that there is no neural net in BC3K and his AI engine should
really be called a simulation engine, he continues claiming to be a world
renowned AI expert. I would guess that his perpetual fiance and child is just
another repeated lie.
I'm not trying to claim that the details of his lies remain consistent. This is
something that even a most practiced liar like Mr. Smart cannot really manage.
There are many inconsistencies in his lies but even caught in an inconsistency,
he still sticks to the main premise of his lies. When detractors point out these
inconsistencies they are "twisting the premise".
Xan
> He claims to be brilliant and an AI expert even
> though it was shown that there is no neural net in BC3K and his AI engine
should
> really be called a simulation engine, he continues claiming to be a world
> renowned AI expert.
Don't forget his claim that he's also a renowed graphics expert. LOL
Lemming
>On Wed, 24 Oct 2001 14:27:45 GMT, "Ron" <kra...@NOSPAMearthlink.net>
>wrote:
>
>>> Of course your important BP - every great album needs mediocre tracks
>>> between the ones that are hit singles.
>>>
>>> .-~~-.____ Louis J.M
>>
>>
>>
>>I believe the word you're looking for is "filler".
>
>Where does Louis fit in ? He's certainly no hit single.
He's the B-side that nobody ever listens to.
pjl
calling themselves bp ", did cause <u7aettkp4h09dhmsq...@4ax.com>
to appear on my glass typewriter and spake thus:
>
>wrote:
>
>>> between the ones that are hit singles.
>>>
>>> .-~~-.____ Louis J.M
>>
>>
>>
>>I believe the word you're looking for is "filler".
>
All record albums need a hole in the center.
AG
<convenient snip of me harassing Xan>
> Sorry, I'm so sorry, Divine Shadow. I promise to behave -- until next
time.
Well gosh golly gee, now that you're grovelling I seem to act like a much
nicer guy. :) <----- notice the smiley there. I guess you're okay after
all, heck why don't you come over to the Burrito Palace and stay a while, I
can always use new froggies. :) <------- notice the other smiley, also
notice that 'Ahm' 'usin' good ol' wholesome slang to talk to 'yall'
indicating that my style of writing is casual and friendly.
Xan
> Well gosh golly gee, now that you're grovelling I seem to act like a much
> nicer guy.
> I guess you're okay after
> all, heck why don't you come over to the Burrito Palace and stay a while, I
> can always use new froggies.
(grabs copy of Xan's Top 10 Taco Palace Infiltration Tips)
Bill Huffman
"pjl" <do$fer...@msn.com> wrote in message news:9r7de...@drn.newsguy.com...
> On or about Wed, 24 Oct 2001 20:48:41 GMT, some person or persons unknown
> calling themselves bp ", did cause
<u7aettkp4h09dhmsq...@4ax.com>
> to appear on my glass typewriter and spake thus:
> >
> >On Wed, 24 Oct 2001 14:27:45 GMT, "Ron" <kra...@NOSPAMearthlink.net>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>> Of course your important BP - every great album needs mediocre tracks
> >>> between the ones that are hit singles.
> >>>
> >>> .-~~-.____ Louis J.M
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>I believe the word you're looking for is "filler".
> >
> >Where does Louis fit in ? He's certainly no hit single.
>
> All record albums need a hole in the center.
The hole is far too critical. Louis is the final revolutions that quickly reach
the center.
C Dobbels
Trollboy is the junk advertising stuffed in with the album.
Ron
"C Dobbels" <charl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7518c2e1.01102...@posting.google.com...
You guys give Louis too much credit. He's more like the cellophane the
record is wrapped in.
pjl
calling themselves "Bill ", did cause
<CGJB7.52146$T24.23...@typhoon.san.rr.com> to appear on my glass typewriter
and spake thus:
>
>
>"pjl" <do$fer...@msn.com> wrote in message news:9r7de...@drn.newsguy.com...
>> On or about Wed, 24 Oct 2001 20:48:41 GMT, some person or persons unknown
>> calling themselves bp ", did cause
><u7aettkp4h09dhmsq...@4ax.com>
>> to appear on my glass typewriter and spake thus:
>> >
>> >On Wed, 24 Oct 2001 14:27:45 GMT, "Ron" <kra...@NOSPAMearthlink.net>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>> Of course your important BP - every great album needs mediocre tracks
>> >>> between the ones that are hit singles.
>> >>>
>> >>> .-~~-.____ Louis J.M
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>I believe the word you're looking for is "filler".
>> >
>> >Where does Louis fit in ? He's certainly no hit single.
>>
>> All record albums need a hole in the center.
>
>The hole is far too critical. Louis is the final revolutions that quickly reach
>the center.
>
How about the lint that the needle picks up?
Erik
>On or about Thu, 25 Oct 2001 01:13:06 GMT, some person or persons unknown
>calling themselves "Bill ", did cause
><CGJB7.52146$T24.23...@typhoon.san.rr.com> to appear on my glass typewriter
>and spake thus:
>>
>>
>>"pjl" <do$fer...@msn.com> wrote in message news:9r7de...@drn.newsguy.com...
>>> On or about Wed, 24 Oct 2001 20:48:41 GMT, some person or persons unknown
>>> calling themselves bp ", did cause
>><u7aettkp4h09dhmsq...@4ax.com>
>>> to appear on my glass typewriter and spake thus:
>>> >
>>> >On Wed, 24 Oct 2001 14:27:45 GMT, "Ron" <kra...@NOSPAMearthlink.net>
>>> >wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>> Of course your important BP - every great album needs mediocre tracks
>>> >>> between the ones that are hit singles.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> .-~~-.____ Louis J.M
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>I believe the word you're looking for is "filler".
>>> >
>>> >Where does Louis fit in ? He's certainly no hit single.
>>>
>>> All record albums need a hole in the center.
>>
>>The hole is far too critical. Louis is the final revolutions that quickly reach
>>the center.
>>
>
>How about the lint that the needle picks up?
The inevitable scratch that appears when you let kids play your
records?.
Louis J.M
<erik@look_in_headers.org> wrote:
The Love-O-Meter is smoking briskly.
.-~~-.____ Louis J.M
/ | ' \
( ) O _
\_/-, ,----' // E-Mail: Lou...@worldnet.att.net
==== ___// AIM : Zsinj
/ \-'~; /~~~(O) ---------------------------------------------------
/ __/~| __/ | "You do not see the world as it is; you see it as
==(______| (_________| you are." - Talmud
C Dobbels
It's late AGAIN? I'm NEVER gonna see the end of "A BattleCruiser Named
Desire". That explains why the Supreme Commander and the lesser Commanders
went away, Murphey's Law strikes AGAIN! I wonder if they forgot to put the
PhD on the box.
charles, accused Stalker, never indicted, never convicted!
C Dobbels
Any excuses from Commander central? Any smoke or screaming? Where's
the reports from the horse's ass?