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Herve Chappe

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Jun 8, 2007, 7:55:25 AM6/8/07
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Interestingly, ALL references, links, etc to the recently announced HP
35s have disappeared, not only from the european importator SMS, which
maybe published it somewhat too fast, but also from all other sites
which relayed the information...Did Big HP Brother strike again ?

Craig A. Finseth

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Jun 8, 2007, 9:31:41 AM6/8/07
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In article <1181303725....@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,

Luckily, I saved a copy of the datasheet...(:-)

Seriously, does anyone know if this is supposed to be real?

Craig


John H Meyers

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Jun 8, 2007, 10:46:50 AM6/8/07
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On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 08:31:41 -0500, Craig A. Finseth wrote:

> Seriously, does anyone know if this is supposed to be real?

It's even been snatched from the child's hands.

Has it moved in with the Xpander?

Maybe both will come back out -- married?

http://hpmad.homeip.net/wedding/wedding_2/

I wonder whether Jack Bauer suppressed it,
for the sake of U.S. Home Security?

Things like this have happened before, in wartime:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Never_Was
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049471/

-[ ]-

Paul Schlyter

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Jun 8, 2007, 12:42:30 PM6/8/07
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In article <op.ttlx0...@w2kjhm.ia.mum.edu>,


Similar themes have been popular in the movies:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053125/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060176/

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TranslucentAmoebae

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Jun 8, 2007, 4:40:16 PM6/8/07
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it seemed like a hoax to me from the beginning...
How unlikely would it be for HP to re-release an ancient
calculator...???

John H Meyers

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Jun 8, 2007, 5:19:31 PM6/8/07
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On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 11:42:30 -0500, Paul Schlyter:

> themes in the movies

Ah yes, but "the man who never was" was actually real,
although the identity he was given was not,
and he, though not even alive, played a crucial role
in the British/American Normandy invasion of World War II!

The calculator issue of today may well be one of national security;
after all, it may be far too powerful to allow to fall into the hands
of enemy engineers, particularly if the dangerous device can be
inconspicuously concealed within any shirt pocket.

Say no more, lest the Men In Black be alerted.

-[ ]-

Herve Chappe

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Jun 8, 2007, 5:50:55 PM6/8/07
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TranslucentAmoebae a écrit :
I found a post somewhere suggesting that for that 35th anniversary HP
should release a 33S style of machine repackaged in a 35s style of
case, which was more or less what was announced.

Let's just dream this WAS real, and the withdrawal is only to correct a
too early announcement by a too enthousiastic french reseller :-)

Herve

Joel Kolstad

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Jun 8, 2007, 6:20:39 PM6/8/07
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"Herve Chappe" <herve.cha_...@laposte.net> wrote in message
news:4669cf3e$1$25924$ba4a...@news.orange.fr...

> Let's just dream this WAS real, and the withdrawal is only to correct a too
> early announcement by a too enthousiastic french reseller :-)

I'm thinking it was real (and HP just made everyone pull their pages since it
wasn't supposed to have been released yet); if it had been a hoax someone
would have announced as much by now.


TW

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Jun 8, 2007, 6:53:02 PM6/8/07
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> I'm thinking it was real (and HP just made everyone pull their pages since it
> wasn't supposed to have been released yet); if it had been a hoax someone
> would have announced as much by now.

Of course it is real. Was I the only one to see the pictures of
Cyrilles baby w/35s? How about this link:
http://h40047.www4.hp.com/certificates/media.php/doc/computers/handhelds_and_calculators/CE_35s_Scientific_Calculator_HSTNJ-KN01.pdf
which is a regulatory filing on HPs site. They just contacted the
distributors and other and probably asked them nicely to pull the info
as it probably wasn't supposed to be released yet.

Guess what! I just saw princess diana in the apollo videos. She's
sitting on the grassy knoll with aliens. If you're going to pick a
conspiracy to talk about, at least make it an interesting one.

TW


Rich

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Jun 8, 2007, 7:27:37 PM6/8/07
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TW wrote:
>> I'm thinking it was real (and HP just made everyone pull their pages since it
>> wasn't supposed to have been released yet); if it had been a hoax someone
>> would have announced as much by now.
>
> Of course it is real. Was I the only one to see the pictures of
> Cyrilles baby w/35s? How about this link:
> http://h40047.www4.hp.com/certificates/media.php/doc/computers/handhelds_and_calculators/CE_35s_Scientific_Calculator_HSTNJ-KN01.pdf
> which is a regulatory filing on HPs site.

But there's no date on it. HP's got to have one for the original HP 35s,
my default assumption would be that this is for the original unless
there was some indication otherwise.

> They just contacted the
> distributors and other and probably asked them nicely to pull the info
> as it probably wasn't supposed to be released yet.

Hopefully.

> Guess what! I just saw princess diana in the apollo videos. She's
> sitting on the grassy knoll with aliens. If you're going to pick a
> conspiracy to talk about, at least make it an interesting one.

Sorry, can't be, she was having lunch with elvis at the time.

Cheers,

Rich

> TW
>
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John H Meyers

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Jun 8, 2007, 8:39:21 PM6/8/07
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[reflecting on history, not calculators]

On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 16:19:31 -0500:

> Normand[ie]

Well, Sicily, actually -- who remembers? (not me!)

This man is claimed to be "the man who never was"
(a real body, but with false identity and false clues,
planted to disinform about WWII invasion plans):
http://us.geocities.com/manwhoneverwas/hom090.html

On the tombstone is seen:

"Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dulce_et_decorum_est_pro_patria_mori

Not according to Wilfred Owen,
British poet and officer, who died in World War I,
having lived to the ripe old age of 25, after writing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dulce_et_Decorum_Est

The poem itself:
http://www.warpoetry.co.uk/owen1.html
http://www.potw.org/archive/potw3.html
http://www.english.emory.edu/LostPoets/Dulce.html

With other references and links:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.hp48/msg/192d2643febffa00

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Michael

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Jun 9, 2007, 1:25:14 AM6/9/07
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HAHAHA

My revenge.

Carly.

lol
lol
lol
lol

Couldn't help myself, Mick C

reth

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Jun 9, 2007, 9:40:22 AM6/9/07
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a bit of conspiracy theory :)
HP released HP35s info to this small community to taste the water and
to get some feedback/suggestions. see hpmuseum for some brilliant
ones. now they are fixing the problems and there we go

reth

SamsonCables

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Jun 9, 2007, 10:16:36 AM6/9/07
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On the sales sheets given to HP calculator distributors and resellers,
the 35S has a release date of August 1. As that date nears, we'll have
a better feel if it is firm.

Carl
Samson Cables


ppeb

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Jun 9, 2007, 12:42:12 PM6/9/07
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Since you chose to reveal the date which up till now was not
publicized, do you expect to remain a reseller? :-)

John H Meyers

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Jun 9, 2007, 1:40:11 PM6/9/07
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Other resellers (like Dynatech in Germany)
indicated in advance when to expect the first HP50G shipments,
but I think they may still be resellers
(doesn't HP want to have sales?)

HP supplied all this info in advance to its resellers;
did it happen to tell them when to start displaying it?

I wouldn't be surprised if not,
or if any change was made after the fact,
rather than at the outset -- or even
if it was someone's mistake within HP.

-[ ]-

greenc...@yahoo.com

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Jun 9, 2007, 5:16:44 PM6/9/07
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Wasn't there going to be some kind of presentation in Monte Carlo, a
few weeks ago?? What came of that event?

Rich

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Jun 9, 2007, 5:53:53 PM6/9/07
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greenc...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Wasn't there going to be some kind of presentation in Monte Carlo, a
> few weeks ago?? What came of that event?

Maybe it was just a simulation? :-)

Cheers,

Rich

reth

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Jun 9, 2007, 6:26:49 PM6/9/07
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IMO that sort of info should not be so confidential - the fact that
our very small community of HP RPN RPL fans makes a big deal out of it
does not mean much globally;

reth

Grumpy Aero Guy

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Jun 9, 2007, 10:03:00 PM6/9/07
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Guess what! I just saw princess diana in the apollo videos. She's
> sitting on the grassy knoll with aliens. If you're going to pick a
> conspiracy to talk about, at least make it an interesting one.


nice ... :-)

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lfmor...@gmail.com

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Jun 11, 2007, 9:09:40 AM6/11/07
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On Jun 8, 8:27 pm, Rich <some...@someplace.not> wrote:
> TW wrote:
> >> I'm thinking it was real (and HP just made everyone pull their pages since it
> >> wasn't supposed to have been released yet); if it had been a hoax someone
> >> would have announced as much by now.
>
> > Of course it is real. Was I the only one to see the pictures of
> > Cyrilles baby w/35s? How about this link:
> >http://h40047.www4.hp.com/certificates/media.php/doc/computers/handhe...

> > which is a regulatory filing on HPs site.
>
> But there's no date on it. HP's got to have one for the original HP 35s,
> my default assumption would be that this is for the original unless
> there was some indication otherwise.

Sure there is a date on the form:
Houston, TX
4/19/2007

And to date, HP has never sold a calculator under the name "HP 35s".

Paraphrased from http://www.vintagecalculators.com/html/the_hp-35_calculator.html:
The original unit didn't have a model number on it; subsequent
releases referred to the unit as the "HEWLETT-PACKARD 35". When model
numbers were standardized to always include both a letter and a
number, the "HP 35A" was born out of bureaucratic necessity.

Regards,
Luke
>
> Rich
>
> > TW


Rich

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Jun 11, 2007, 11:37:28 AM6/11/07
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lfmor...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jun 8, 8:27 pm, Rich <some...@someplace.not> wrote:
>> TW wrote:
>>>> I'm thinking it was real (and HP just made everyone pull their pages since it
>>>> wasn't supposed to have been released yet); if it had been a hoax someone
>>>> would have announced as much by now.
>>> Of course it is real. Was I the only one to see the pictures of
>>> Cyrilles baby w/35s? How about this link:
>>> http://h40047.www4.hp.com/certificates/media.php/doc/computers/handhe...
>>> which is a regulatory filing on HPs site.
>> But there's no date on it. HP's got to have one for the original HP 35s,
>> my default assumption would be that this is for the original unless
>> there was some indication otherwise.
>
> Sure there is a date on the form:
> Houston, TX
> 4/19/2007
>
> And to date, HP has never sold a calculator under the name "HP 35s".

Mea culpa, for some reason I thought that was the name for the HP-35.

Cheers,

Rich

Lennart Börjeson

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Jun 13, 2007, 4:56:17 AM6/13/07
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Craig A. Finseth wrote:

Here's a funny exercise: According to the (disappeared) data sheet, the HP
part number of the 35s is F2215A.

1) Go to http://welcome.hp.com/country/us/en/prodserv.html .

2) Click on "HP Parts" in the left-hand menu.

3) Enter F2215A in either the top-right search field or the first one in the
main frame.

Voila! But they're still not orderable...

--

/Lennart

LMartínez

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Jun 13, 2007, 4:53:27 PM6/13/07
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The HP 35S is a real machine to be on sale next month, at least in
Europe. Very likely it will replace the HP 33S. This information comes
from a trustable dealer.

Craig A. Finseth ha escrito:

TranslucentAmoebae

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Jun 14, 2007, 2:45:06 PM6/14/07
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On Jun 13, 1:56 am, Lennart Börjeson <Lenna...@cinnober.com> wrote:
> Craig A. Finseth wrote:
> > In article <1181303725.773877.53...@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,

> > Herve Chappe <herve.cha...@laposte.net> wrote:
> >>Interestingly, ALL references, links, etc to the recently announced HP
> >>35s have disappeared, not only from the european importator SMS, which
> >>maybe published it somewhat too fast, but also from all other sites
> >>which relayed the information...Did Big HP Brother strike again ?
>
> > Luckily, I saved a copy of the datasheet...(:-)
>
> > Seriously, does anyone know if this is supposed to be real?
>
> > Craig
>
> Here's a funny exercise: According to the (disappeared) data sheet, the HP
> part number of the 35s is F2215A.
>
> 1) Go tohttp://welcome.hp.com/country/us/en/prodserv.html.
>
> 2) Click on "HP Parts" in the left-hand menu.
>
> 3) Enter F2215A in either the top-right search field or the first one in the
> main frame.
>
> Voila! But they're still not orderable...
>
> --
>
> /Lennart

this doesn't seem to work...
more disinformation provided by the witches from the future, or are
the xi.6 controllers still one step ahead of us...???

Bob

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Jun 14, 2007, 3:43:29 PM6/14/07
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>
> Here's a funny exercise: According to the (disappeared) data sheet, the HP
> part number of the 35s is F2215A.
>
> 1) Go tohttp://welcome.hp.com/country/us/en/prodserv.html.
>
> 2) Click on "HP Parts" in the left-hand menu.
>
> 3) Enter F2215A in either the top-right search field or the first one in
> the
> main frame.
>
> Voila! But they're still not orderable...
>
> --
>
> /Lennart

: this doesn't seem to work...

Works fine for me. It lists the 35S and the 35S without the manual.

Bob


Dominic Richens

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Jun 19, 2007, 9:31:20 PM6/19/07
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"Herve Chappe" <herve....@laposte.net> wrote:
> Interestingly, ALL references, links, etc to the recently announced HP
> 35s have disappeared, not only from the european importator SMS, which
> maybe published it somewhat too fast, but also from all other sites
> which relayed the information...Did Big HP Brother strike again ?

Ever hear of the "Osborne effect"?

HP no doubt has an inventory of HP33s that it would like to actually sell.
If it tells everyone that a better, cheaper or perhaps even just prettier
calculator will be available in August, who's gonna buy an HP33s?
--
Dominic Richens | kn...@storm.ca
"If you're not *outraged*, you're not paying attention!"


Rich

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Jun 19, 2007, 10:37:34 PM6/19/07
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Dominic Richens wrote:
> "Herve Chappe" <herve....@laposte.net> wrote:
>> Interestingly, ALL references, links, etc to the recently announced HP
>> 35s have disappeared, not only from the european importator SMS, which
>> maybe published it somewhat too fast, but also from all other sites
>> which relayed the information...Did Big HP Brother strike again ?
>
> Ever hear of the "Osborne effect"?

Didn't the same thing happen with Commodore's release of the C64?

> HP no doubt has an inventory of HP33s that it would like to actually sell.
> If it tells everyone that a better, cheaper or perhaps even just prettier
> calculator will be available in August, who's gonna buy an HP33s?

I missed the rollout of the HP-50G, was it's impending release in the
newsgroups before the release?

Cheers,

Rich


Mick

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Jun 28, 2007, 8:37:06 AM6/28/07
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From memory there were rumors, and being from Australia I managed to
get one of the first models in aus.
So yes.
Mick C
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