RISC OS 3.12

[Jim Noble]

Have you noticed (if you have seen June's BAU), how much wider the menu's are
in the German RO :-)

For those of you who haven't seen BAU yet:
o 3.12 is the German version of RISCOS.
o It has the new 3D sprites and the new filer.
o The desktop can use Outline Fonts.
o 3.12 uses larger ROMS than previous versions.

Does anyone know how this last point has been achieved?

Also from BAU; it is now apparent that about 1500 35MHz ARM3s were
manufactured.

Jim
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[Simon Burrows]

In article <72...@falcon.ukc.ac.uk> j...@ukc.ac.uk (Jim Noble) writes:
>
>Have you noticed (if you have seen June's BAU), how much wider the menu's are
>in the German RO :-)
>
>For those of you who haven't seen BAU yet:
> o 3.12 is the German version of RISCOS.
> o It has the new 3D sprites and the new filer.
> o The desktop can use Outline Fonts.
> o 3.12 uses larger ROMS than previous versions.

Do you believe everything which BAU prints?

Simon

[Carsten Bussmann 29207253]

Hello there,
you can believe what BBC A. U. wrote, as I saw the whole thing
"live and in colour" on the CeBIT, so they're right (this time).
BTW, the menues are wider because German is more"unefficient"
than English. So, this means that more space is needed, in the menues --
and in Rom,so that they kicked out !Configure and !Alarm from the Apps folder
(on the CeBIT-version). Using outline fonts in the Desktop is very nice, but
it looked awfully SLOW !!! But if they fixed that now... .
Bye,
Carsten

[Mik Davis]

Carsten Bussmann 29207253 (buss...@namu01.gwdg.de) wrote:
: and in Rom,so that they kicked out !Configure and !Alarm from the Apps folder

Kicked out Alarm? and kept Chars and Help? - ugh! sounds dodgy to me...

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[Ollie Cornes]

Simon Burrows (s...@cs.nott.ac.uk) wrote:

What exactly about that should *not* be believed?
The piccy in BAU shows outline fonts in filer windows, the new sprites, it
is german, and the ROMS are bigger than RO2, ok maybe not RO3, is that what
you mean?

Ollie

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[Martin Hay]

In article <72...@falcon.ukc.ac.uk>, j...@ukc.ac.uk (Jim Noble) writes:
>
> Have you noticed (if you have seen June's BAU), how much wider the menu's are
> in the German RO :-)
>
> For those of you who haven't seen BAU yet:
> o 3.12 is the German version of RISCOS.
> o It has the new 3D sprites and the new filer.
> o The desktop can use Outline Fonts.
> o 3.12 uses larger ROMS than previous versions.
>
> Does anyone know how this last point has been achieved?
>

No idea, but the OS looks quite smart indeed, eh? Almost gives you an excuse
to learn German :-)

btw, in the same BAU, they showed a 4->8Mb RAM upgrade that plugs into the OS
sockets. I would suspect this runs on the same principle as the new OS.

Martin Hay

[Tom Hughes]

Of course the machine *looked* like the picture in BAU - did you ask
how they had achieved this though? As I understand it, there is a
3.12, which is the german version. It does not include the new WIMP or
Filer however, the people demonstrating these had soft-loaded the
modules from disc.

I am absolutely astounded that BAU managed to muck this up though. I
would have thought the first thing the editor would have done when the
story came in would have been to check with Acorn. Oh well...

Tom.

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[Julian Wright]

buss...@namu01.gwdg.de (Carsten Bussmann 29207253) writes:

> than English. So, this means that more space is needed, in
> the menues -- and in Rom,so that they kicked out !Configure
> and !Alarm from the Apps folder (on the CeBIT-version).

Are you sure they hadn't just *Unplugged !Alarm and !Configure
for the show (so that people couldn't easily reconfigure/timebomb
the demo machines)?

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[Carsten Bussmann 29207253]

Hello ther,
I talked to GMA (Hamburg) on monday, the German distributor for Acorn machines,
and they told me that Risc-Os 3.12 contains everything seen in BAU in Eproms
which are available at GMA, but at a very high price, as Eproms are
anything else than cheap. So, if anyone wants a German Risc-Os version ... .

[Carsten Bussmann 29207253]

Hello You,
about "unplugging the modules !Alarm and !Configure" : they TOLD me that there
is NOT ENOUGH SPACE IN ROM LEFT, and if You take a closer look at the !German territory module, You'll see why .... .
bye, Carsten

[Julian Wright]

buss...@namu01.gwdg.de (Carsten Bussmann 29207253) writes:

> Hello You,

Gidday.

> about "unplugging the modules !Alarm and !Configure" : they TOLD me that
> there is NOT ENOUGH SPACE IN ROM LEFT, and if You take a closer look at
> the !German territory module, You'll see why .... .

I'd love to ('specially cause of the outline fonts in the WIMP) but:
a) I don't speak German
b) I doubt many sets of RISC OS 3.12 will be sold in my part of the
world.

I thought somebody mentioned the ROMS were doubled in size again, that's
all...

Cheers, Julian.

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