Something New Is Coming
Tonal
that will be dedicated to giving speech users honest and factual advice on the
best products to meet your needs. While we work out final stages of our
development, we need to keep a low profile, but we're bursting at the seams to
give you any nugget of information we can. Beyond these cloaked posts, there
will be no hype, no taking of sides and no pie in the sky promises. What you'll
get is information on the products you seek from industry experts, much of which
will come from an insider's point of view. We will seek out the information on
the products you want and offer you a competitive price for those products.
Stay tuned...
Martin Markoe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> It is with great anticipation that I announce today the formation of a
company
> that will be dedicated to giving speech users honest and factual advice on
the
> best products to meet your needs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Are you implying advice given here has not been honest and factual? It would
be honest to use one's real name.
It used to be very popular to pre-release information on new products. This
was called Vapor Ware. Your pre-release may be called BS Ware. Oops, I mean
Beware.
--
Martin Markoe, SCCS, Inc.
The best microphones for Speech Recognition
See us at: http://www.speechcontrol.com
Speaktoyourpc.com
>>>>>>>>>>
> Are you implying advice given here has not been honest and factual? It would
> be honest to use one's real name.
>
> It used to be very popular to pre-release information on new products. This
> was called Vapor Ware. Your pre-release may be called BS Ware. Oops, I mean
> Beware.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I can't wait to see this.
It's nice to see someone else giving honest opinions on headset and voice
recognition products.....read many misleading "reviews", put up with alot of
"test results" and one person opinions someone has been shoveling through these
and other forums for some time about all of their headsets being "the best".
--
Peter Daniels
speaktoyourpc.com
1-888-412-7605
___________________________________
INSTANT TIPS - just send an email..
1. "10 problems with voice
recognition and how to fix them"
email: tech...@speaktoyourpc.com
2. "What to look for when buying
a headset or microphone"
email: hea...@speaktoyourpc.com
3. "How to tell if you're having an
audio or sound problem"
email: au...@speaktoyourpc.com
Martin Markoe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It's nice to see someone else giving honest opinions on headset and voice
> recognition products.....read many misleading "reviews", put up with alot
of
> "test results" and one person opinions someone has been shoveling through
these
> and other forums for some time about all of their headsets being "the
best".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
That's an interesting statement from you considering the owner of the
Voic...@yahoogroups.com just threw you off the list for unethical
practices. Skip Taylor, the list owner wrote:
"Mr. "give me your permission" has been removed.
Skip
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richards" jru...@attglobal.net
To: Voic...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [VComp] Permission to use your review
MR PETER DANIELS DOES NOT HAVE PERMISSION
TO USE ANY OF MY POSTINGS of any kind
ON HIS WEB SITE for any reason.
/// Richards /// a/k/a/ JHR ////
Marty Markoe
Speaktoyourpc.com
asking a user for a review of a headset is not considered "unethical"
I'm sorry, did you take my last posting personally? Apologies if you did.
I don't recall mentioning any names?
However, this cheap shot to me and my employer's credibility for your own gain
should be considered unethical--- posting slander on a public forum....shame,
shame. You should know better than that.
--
Peter Daniels
speaktoyourpc.com
1-888-412-7605
___________________________________
INSTANT TIPS - just send an email..
1. "10 problems with voice
recognition and how to fix them"
email: tech...@speaktoyourpc.com
2. "What to look for when buying
a headset or microphone"
email: hea...@speaktoyourpc.com
3. "How to tell if you're having an
audio or sound problem"
email: au...@speaktoyourpc.com
"Martin Markoe" <mar...@speechcontrol.com> wrote in message
news:tsn5hot...@corp.supernews.com...
Martin Markoe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
That was my first posting ever to that less than 3 month old newsgroup.
Simply
asking a user for a review of a headset is not considered "unethical"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The question to be posed, and if anyone is interested they can look up the
User Group's (this is a newsgroup) archives, is "In what context was your
posting made?" Several people on the group thought it was unprofessional and
the list owner apparently removed you for commercialism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
posting slander on a public forum
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I may be wrong, but believe slander is what a person vocalizes and libel is
written.
End of thread for me.
Martin
To...@comingsoonx.com
It is precisely this type of reactionary and vitriolic response that has
prompted me to post to this forum. If there is a significant amount of
business you draw from being an active member of this board then I will
be certain that there is balance. The overt generalizations made on this
board are highly subjective and easily refuted.
I go along with Peter from SpeaktoyourPC.com in attempting to provide a
TOTAL picture of the industry and not one side that is represented by the
more vocal members of this group.
Don't feel so intimidated and have such a negative response. Welcome the
counterpoint. If you're such a spokesman for the industry, why would you
reply to my effort to make a simple announcement with such harsh and
frankly defensive words?
I like to think there's room for all of us here.
The reasons for not disclosing more information at this time are purely
out of respect to the process I am undertaking. It would be unfair to my
friends and partners to disclose any information at this time other than
fanfare.
Best to all.
In article <tsn5hot...@corp.supernews.com>, mar...@speechcontrol.com
says...
Martin Markoe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Don't feel so intimidated and have such a negative response. Welcome the
> counterpoint. If you're such a spokesman for the industry, why would you
> reply to my effort to make a simple announcement with such harsh and
> frankly defensive words?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Intimidated, no. Defensive words, no. Offensive, yes. Am I offended, yes.
You offered nothing and still don't sign your name to this response. I call
that cowardice. You can look me up and find me any time you want. Who are
you? Where are you? Answers, no one and cyberspace.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> I like to think there's room for all of us here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Absolutely agree. On other lists I get along just fine with experts and
competitors like Larry Allen, Parmod Gandhi, Lunis Orcutt, James Richards,
etc. The hairs on the back of my head are raised when nothing concrete is
offered and by someone not even willing to sign their own name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> The reasons for not disclosing more information at this time are purely
> out of respect to the process I am undertaking. It would be unfair to my
> friends and partners to disclose any information at this time other than
> fanfare.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Why say anything at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I go along with Peter from SpeaktoyourPC.com in attempting to provide a
TOTAL picture of the industry and not one side that is represented by the
more vocal members of this group.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Frankly, much of the Industry offers crap. Even within some respected
manufacturers, some of the stuff is useless. For example, two people in the
last month called me to get a decent microphone after being steered to an
Array microphone by another reseller.
Peter has repeatedly said my tests are completely one man subjective. I've
asked him several times to read How we Test Microphones which shows that I
test them an Electrical Engineer with years of audio and SR experience test
them and then clients test them. However, he insists on mis-stating the
facts. You can read the methodology at:
http://www.speechcontrol.com/microphones/howtest.asp
Is the method perfect. No. Does it give a person a good chance to get a
quality, accurate microphone? Yes.
I have 8 years SR experience, starting out as an IBM BESTeam Speech
Partner.. In that time I've run my own company, installed, configured,
trained, been trained and supported SR and Microsoft NT/2000. Also, I've
been hired to write the Microphone Column for the industry Journal, Speech
Technology Magazine. These are my credentials. What are yours?
Jabawaba
says...
> Intimidated, no. Defensive words, no. Offensive, yes. Am I offended, yes.
> You offered nothing and still don't sign your name to this response. I call
> that cowardice. You can look me up and find me any time you want. Who are
> you? Where are you? Answers, no one and cyberspace.
>
What are you talking about?
I come in here, say something new is coming, as a simple announcement. I
make NO mention of you, your company or your offerings. I simply make
BASIC statements about what we will be doing and I get these kinds of
childish responses.
You must feel as though you own this board as you certainly should NOT
have been provoked to respond with such animosity. As if I need to
report to you before making a statement.
A harmless announcement turns into such a trivial waste of bandwidth.
Martin Markoe
Did a search for jabawabavilla.com, www.jabawabavilla.com and all that is
returned is:
Sorry, no results were found containing 'jabawabavilla.com'
No information, no results, no nada. Try clicking on my URL. Wow, it works.
Tonal
says...
> Did a search for jabawabavilla.com, www.jabawabavilla.com and all that is
> returned is:
> Sorry, no results were found containing 'jabawabavilla.com'
>
> No information, no results, no nada. Try clicking on my URL. Wow, it works.
>
>
Was an honest failure on my part to update certain settings on this PC.
Jabawaba is nothing more than a personal reference.
Martin Markoe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Jabawaba is nothing more than a personal reference.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Then why did it come up as jabawabavilla.com?
M
Mark A. Mandel
: It is with great anticipation that I announce today the formation of a
[snip rest of a post with no tangible content]
When you have something to say I will read it with interest. So far you
have given us a fanfare of trumpets for a blank billboard, an empty stage,
a purse of air, a web page that says "COMING SOON! This domain name was
recently registered at..." This perfectly fits the definition of
"vaporware", a term that I believe Martin used/
I know nothing of your history with other sites. I am familiar with
Martin's reputation and his scrupulous posts here. Baldly put, he has
established credibility in this forum; you have not. Come back when you
have content. Until then, you're just blowing hot air.
Mark A. Mandel : Senior Linguist
Dragon Systems, a Lernout & Hauspie company : speech recognition
320 Nevada St., Newton, MA 02460, USA : http://www.dragonsys.com/
(speaking only for myself)
--
To reply by email, remove the obvious spam-blocker from my edress.
LShaping
> Tonal (nos...@newsranger.com) wrote:
> > It is with great anticipation that I announce today the formation of a
> > company that will be dedicated to giving speech users honest and factual
> > advice <snip>
What a novel concept!
> Are you implying advice given here has not been honest and factual?
> Martin Markoe
Is most advice here given by you salesmen? Speech recognition
accuracy has been at 99.99% for years and yet every new release is
"remarkably more accurate" than the last. When the application fails,
you all blame it on the user's hardware, or insinuate it is his (or
her) inability to speek correctly.
LShaping
LShaping
> That was my first posting ever to that less than 3 month old newsgroup. Simply
> asking a user for a review of a headset is not considered "unethical"
>
> I'm sorry, did you take my last posting personally? Apologies if you did.
> I don't recall mentioning any names?
>
> However, this cheap shot to me and my employer's credibility for your own gain
> should be considered unethical--- posting slander on a public forum....shame,
> shame. You should know better than that.
You all are advertising on UseNet. Advertising on UseNet is
restricted to groups which are specifically named for that purpose.
So you two bickering is pointless, since you both are constantly
violating the rules. I suppose that is more acceptable in this group
than in some others, but advertising is very much discouraged in most.
Plainly Speaking, nobody is going to care, Peter Daniels.
LShaping
LShaping
That is funny. You blast away at some guy for hoping to introduce
some objective information to this group. You stick up for a salesman
of your products. Face it, you all just blast away at people who
dispute your fanyful claims of speech recognition accuracy. You offer
your advice only while advertising your product. Well, I guess
Microsoft is going to screw you anyway. BTW, wasn't Lernout & Hauspie
the company which got into a whole bunch of regulatory trouble not
long ago?
Just visiting (can you tell? :o)
LShaping
Tonal
says...
>
> When you have something to say I will read it with interest. So far you
> have given us a fanfare of trumpets for a blank billboard, an empty stage,
> a purse of air, a web page that says "COMING SOON! This domain name was
> recently registered at..." This perfectly fits the definition of
> "vaporware", a term that I believe Martin used/
>
> I know nothing of your history with other sites. I am familiar with
> Martin's reputation and his scrupulous posts here. Baldly put, he has
> established credibility in this forum; you have not. Come back when you
> have content. Until then, you're just blowing hot air.
>
I understand your desire to learn more, and I am trying to give that to
you as I am able to.
I just don't believe anything I said was threatening or deserved the
assumptive and negative responses. I will try to be more forthcoming in
days ahead. If I thought for a moment my innocent post would provoke
such response I would have refrained from posting. However, as I look
back at the original post all I said was something new in the industry
was coming. Is it big now? No. Is it a HUGE announcement? No. Was I
pretending to be anything in the post? No. It was just a teaser, take
it for what it was worth.
Thanks,
Tonal
mseu...@yahoo.com says...
> BTW, wasn't Lernout & Hauspie
> the company which got into a whole bunch of regulatory trouble not
> long ago?
> Just visiting (can you tell? :o)
> LShaping
>
>
I believe jail is home to its founders...
Martin Markoe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It was just a teaser, take it for what it was worth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Two important things my mother taught me:
1. Don't tease or you won't be taken seriously (moral of the Boy Who Cried
Wolf).
2. Don't say anything if you have nothing to say. The worth of what you said
was?
Martin Markoe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You stick up for a salesman of your products. Face it, you all just blast
away at people who
dispute your fanyful claims of speech recognition accuracy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You must be an illiterate idiot who does not read and as we can tell from
your spelling error does not use SR software. You keep calling me a
salesman for Dragon and or other SR software. I suggested you check out my
web site. I do not sell SR software. I sell microphones, damn good ones that
when taken with our advice on how to "speek" SIC in a way that the SR
software undersstands, will allow one to use the software productively. Of
course not as productively as your claim of 99.99%.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
or insinuate it is his (or her) inability to speek correctly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Speek?
Tonal
says...
> Two important things my mother taught me:
> 1. Don't tease or you won't be taken seriously (moral of the Boy Who Cried
> Wolf).
> 2. Don't say anything if you have nothing to say. The worth of what you said
> was?
>
> --
> Martin Markoe, SCCS, Inc.
>
I'll take the higher road, thank you.
LShaping
> LShaping,
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> You stick up for a salesman of your products. Face it, you all just blast
> away at people who
> dispute your fanyful claims of speech recognition accuracy.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> You must be an illiterate idiot who does not read and as we can tell from
> your spelling error does not use SR software.
No, actually, I read just fine, Martin Markoe. Not only that, but I
am very keen at deciphering advertising lingo. For example, I defined
advertising's use of the word "save." Took almost two years, but it
was worth it. Merriam-Webster was the first to publish my definition.
Other dictionary publishers have followed suit. My recommendation
was "to spend less." Merriam-Webster's final wording was "to spend
less by." They sent me a very nice letter accepting the definition.
> You keep calling me a
> salesman for Dragon and or other SR software. I suggested you check out my
> web site. I do not sell SR software. I sell microphones,
You take advantage of people who cannot use speech recognition
software. You tell them they need your microphones to make it work.
In fact, speech clarity has always been low on the audiophile scale,
the problem is not their microphone. You are a spammer, Martin
Markoe. You try to deceive people. You chastise people who disagree
with your hype. You insult other UseNet authors. Still, that does
not make you any more than just a spammer. If you want to fit in and
not just look like the spammer you are, you might also want to
properly format your UseNet posts.
LShaping
Martin Markoe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> You take advantage of people who cannot use speech recognition
> software. You tell them they need your microphones to make it work.
> In fact, speech clarity has always been low on the audiophile scale,
> the problem is not their microphone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Really. Go through my messages and show me where I tell them they need your
(my) microphones to make it work."
As a matter of fact I always state that enunciation and training is the most
important factor once a person has a good microphone and sound card. I don't
say they should have a "great microphone" even though the Sennheiser MD431
II stands slightly above the others.
Thank you for the opportunity to "advertise" my view point.
Martin Markoe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> I'll take the higher road, thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
What a refreshing change of pace for Mr. No Name and No Message
(surprisingly still again).
BTW, I'll be at SpeechTek Thursday and Friday of this week. You can
recognize me from my handsome picture in Speech Technology Magazine and by
the words of my name on the name tag I'll be wearing. See my latest column
and picture at:
http://www.speechtek.com/st.mag/current/sound.shtml
--
Martin Markoe, SCCS, Inc.
LShaping
>mseu...@yahoo.com (LShaping) wrote:
>>You all are advertising on UseNet. Advertising on UseNet is
>>restricted to groups which are specifically named for that purpose.
>>So you two bickering is pointless, since you both are constantly
>>violating the rules. I suppose that is more acceptable in this group
>>than in some others, but advertising is very much discouraged in most.
>> Plainly Speaking, nobody is going to care, Peter Daniels.
>It should be obvious to all by now that this clown is what is called a
>troll. Those of us who been around Usenet for a while learned long ago
>that there is only one effective way to deal with a troll. Don't flame
>him; don't criticize him; don't even respond to him. Trolls thrive on
>attention and only on attention. Ignore him.
I highly recommend filtering, makes UseNet a better place IMO. Between
now and then, lets take a look at anonymous' posting history.
anon...@anon.net
He (or she) has a grand total of 104 posts.
These are his favorite groups.
alt.comp.freeware.* (3 groups)
alt.sex.prostitution.* (2 groups)
alt.games.duke3d.* (1 group)
alt.sex.strip-clubs
Well, anonymous certainly does get around on UseNet. Whoever the author
is, he needs to do a better job next time he goes incognito.
LShaping
LShaping
>LShaping <noS...@all.please> wrote:
>>anon...@anon.net
>>He (or she) has a grand total of 104 posts.
>>These are his favorite groups.
>>alt.comp.freeware.* (3 groups)
>>alt.sex.prostitution.* (2 groups)
>>alt.games.duke3d.* (1 group)
>>alt.sex.strip-clubs
>>Well, anonymous certainly does get around on UseNet. Whoever the author
>>is, he needs to do a better job next time he goes incognito.
><snip> However, as a fairly experienced Usenet user myself let me
>point out a couple of things.
>1. The name under which our anonymous is posting is neither
>terribly original nor terribly unique. I suspect that a variety of
>people who post to the groups identified above have selected that
>name, and that even the 104 posts are from several people.
Which means you can choose from one or more of the four groups listed.
>2. Anyone who has been around Usenet for a while will immediately
>look at the poster's headers before drawing any conclusions.
We draw whatever conclusions based on the evidence presented, however
little.
>3. A cursory look at the headers of the Mr. or Ms. anonymous
>who is posting to this group shows they include the header
>"X-No-Archive: yes" What does that mean? It means that our poster's
>messages are not archived in any of the places where a search would
>turn them up.
Wrong. It means that for the post above, the author included
"X-No-Archive: yes." It means nothing else.
>The search that LShaping carried out to locate the 104 posts almost
>certainly did not include any of the posts made by this Mr. or Ms.
>anonymous.
A conclusion based on that unproven assumption.
>Think about it for a minute, Mr. LShaping. How many of the
>several posts he or she has made to this group turned up in your
>search? No need to reply. I know the answer.
Must be rough trying to defend an anonymous author. If you remain
anonymous, you suffer from lack of credibility.
>4. As a factual matter, I personally know of some of the groups
>in which I'm fairly sure
As a factual matter, David Thomas is fairly sure. Whatever. Very
difficult to substantiate a no-archive author's talk about an anonymous
author.
><snipped talk about something which is possible>
>In short, <snip>.
Might want to try substantiating those claims before drawing conclusions
based on them.
>And now I'm going to take anonymous's suggestion.
>Dave T.
I feel just fine addressing the group anyway.
So where are all of these anonymous and no-archive authors coming from?
The only traceable antagonistic author in here is a spammer? The need
to cover up accurate information about speech recognition must be a
deeper problem than I would have imagined.
Have a great day (or night) anyway,
LShaping
Tonal
says...
> What a refreshing change of pace for Mr. No Name and No Message
> (surprisingly still again).
>
> BTW, I'll be at SpeechTek Thursday and Friday of this week. You can
> recognize me from my handsome picture in Speech Technology Magazine and by
> the words of my name on the name tag I'll be wearing. See my latest column
> and picture at:
> http://www.speechtek.com/st.mag/current/sound.shtml
>
I am really turned off by this type of childish behavior. Don't these
posts come back to haunt you Martin? I would think karma has a place
here. I have DONE NOTHING to you nor did I ever INVITE such vitriol from
you. I cannot believe what I'm seeing here.
You'll know soon enough who I am. Actually, you know me, you've dealt
with me and that is PRECISELY why I cannot disclose more. I explained
why before. Many of the larger and more substantial speech providers
deal with me on a nearly daily basis. That is WHY I cannot say more. I
am in a transition mode and revealing more could hurt my bottom line.
SO, I have stopped revealing ANYTHING regarding any forthcoming company.
I'm sure in 2 weeks I'll be ready.
NOTE - I have stopped promoting ANYTHING and yet your relentless attacks
continue. I ask you now to please stop because you simply don't
understand the situation.
Martin Markoe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I ask you now to please stop because you simply don't
understand the situation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
See subject.
Martin Markoe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> I am really turned off by this type of childish behavior.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
If you are turned off, tune out and leave us alone till you have something
of substance to say. You say you've dealt with me before? You know where to
find me. Make me understand why I need to leave you alone based on who you
are, not a childish tag name and promises of great things to come. Americans
fight in the open, cowardly terrorists fight in caves.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Don't these posts come back to haunt you Martin?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Actually, business picks up. I've received over a dozen off list posts
supporting me for attacking what you have had to say (really not had to
say). This is also recreational.
Martin
Now who are you? Contact me off list and we can talk. Otherwise take it off
the airwaves till you have something real to say.
Mark A. Mandel
: In article <72000ee7.01102...@posting.google.com>,
And founderers. That doesn't affect the character of the Dragon research
and development teams, who were among the victim's of Jo and Pol's Bogus
Adventure; or the quality of the software they developed.
I'm going off to add to my killfile now.
Mark A. Mandel : Senior Linguist
Dragon Systems, a Lernout & Hauspie company : speech recognition
320 Nevada St., Newton, MA 02460, USA : http://www.dragonsys.com/
(speaking only for myself)
--
Mark A. Mandel
dragon...@feminism.freeserve.co.uk
>That is funny. You blast away at some guy for hoping to introduce
>some objective information to this group. You stick up for a salesman
>of your products. Face it, you all just blast away at people who
>dispute your fanyful claims of speech recognition accuracy. You offer
>your advice only while advertising your product.
Martin doesn't sell Mark's product. Mark posts here to give
information and advice, to help people; he isn't in sales. He signs
his posts so it's clear who he works for (sorry about the bad grammar,
Mark!); the IBM people who post do too.
> Face it, you all just blast away at people who
>dispute your fanyful claims of speech recognition accuracy.
I claim high accuracy too -- using Dragon NaturallySpeaking; I've
also had good results with IBM programs but in my view
NaturallySpeaking is a better all-round program. (I've never used
VoiceExpress.) I'm a user. I don't sell software or hardware, or
produce it or work for a hardware or software company.
>BTW, wasn't Lernout & Hauspie
>the company which got into a whole bunch of regulatory trouble not
>long ago?
Yes -- in brief -- that is nothing to do with their employees except
that it is and has been very bad news for them (and for voice
software users).
**You said in another post that usenet was all about advertising.
Peter Daniels was removed from an e-mail list, not a usenet
group where just anyone can drop in...**
Judy
Tonal
says...
> Now who are you? Contact me off list and we can talk. Otherwise take it off
> the airwaves till you have something real to say.
>
I had crafted a very large reply, but used restraint.
I can't wait. On my testimonials page of my website I am going to put
all of your lovely quotes. I'll even link to you in those quotes just so
everyone can see your wondrous charm and humility.
People who act like you bury themselves eventually. I feel sorry for you
and hope you learn to temper your frustration with a new attitude.
Good luck Marty.
I'll see you on my web page. Until then, you won't. You win. You drove
me away. Good job.
Martin Markoe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> I can't wait. On my testimonials page of my website I am going to put
> all of your lovely quotes. I'll even link to you in those quotes just so
> everyone can see your wondrous charm and humility.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, has it really
fallen?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> People who act like you bury themselves eventually. I feel sorry for you
> and hope you learn to temper your frustration with a new attitude.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Read the testimonials on this group. I put down the people who lie, condemn
and have nothing to say. It is more a hobby than a mission. They are there
because:
1. People understand I love SR technology (still get a thrill seeing the
words appear on screen like magic).
2. This love translates to my wanting to see people succeed whether they
purchase from me or not.
3. I deliver advice, support and products as I'd want them delivered to me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Good luck Marty.
> I'll see you on my web page. Until then, you won't. You win. You drove
> me away. Good job.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Thanks, but don't need luck. Will just keep working hard. You drove yourself
away. Your vaporous rhetoric is indicative of your personality and you are
unlikely to succeed at your venture.
--
Martin Markoe, SCCS, Inc.
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Je...@nosuchspamtonalcommunications.com
says...
> If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, has it really
> fallen?
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > People who act like you bury themselves eventually. I feel sorry for you
> > and hope you learn to temper your frustration with a new attitude.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Read the testimonials on this group. I put down the people who lie, condemn
> and have nothing to say. It is more a hobby than a mission. They are there
> because:
> 1. People understand I love SR technology (still get a thrill seeing the
> words appear on screen like magic).
> 2. This love translates to my wanting to see people succeed whether they
> purchase from me or not.
> 3. I deliver advice, support and products as I'd want them delivered to me.
>
Well, I don't have to play cloak and dagger anymore. I still don't
understand why you chose personal attacks and hostility. I don't see how
my post was in ANY SHAPE or FORM harmful. But, I hope it's water under
the bridge. Let the past be the past.
My name is Jeffrey Cote. I have posted on here before. I am a former
employee of VXI Corporation. VXI was once a pretty substantial company
in the speech recognition arena. However, years of poor decision making
and money not so well spent has left VXI with an uphill battle.
I believe VXI has fairly good products. I believe that there are
currently products on the market that may be better at SOME things.
Andrea, for example, despite all of its financial horrors has a line of
high quality headsets. Andrea is not the only nor can you definitively
say they are the BEST. They are the best for some, while Shure is best
for others. VXI is still a choice for MANY MANY speech recognition
users, with good reason.
Before my exit at VXI I had achieved some things that were very important
in my opinion. These things were customer driven, reseller driven and I
am very proud of them.
Sadly, my greatest accomplishment, the restoration and redesign of a top
quality speech recognition headset has yet to hit market. I hope it does
soon. If it does, I'll be carrying it. In some early testing it
performed as good and even at times better than comparable Andrea
headsets which seem to garner a lot of support. I was the driving force
behind the creation of this product. I should say, it was my demand to
get something new and excellent out there. VXI used to build something
very similar but dropped it for some reason, at the dismay of many.
I also was able to drive the price of our computer products down for our
resellers. The old model was something like 30% off list for top tier
resellers. Highly unpopular. The latest while certainly not permanent
is a reasonable 50% off list.
I also demanded and succeeded in getting the VXI web discount price taken
off. This hurt resellers as it cut further into margins that weren't
great to begin with.
In each case above I was the driving force behind these issues. While I
may not have had final decision power, the effort would not have even
begun were it not for my dedication to customers and in particular
resellers. Ask many of the top headsets resellers about me and I trust
they will tell you how I fight for them. I had such a great relationship
with many of them and hope it continues now that I am out on my own!
For the record:
My company is Tonal Communications
My name is Jeffrey Cote
My email is je...@tonalcommunications.com
I will at some point publish a phone number and web site. In the
meantime feel free to email me.
Martin - I hope we can move past the earlier ugliness and come to terms
with each other.
*Extends hand*
Speaktoyourpc.com
Ask many of the top headsets resellers about me and I trust
they will tell you how I fight for them. I had such a great relationship
with many of them and hope it continues now that I am out on my own!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
This is absolutely true!........jeez, Jeff what are we going to do now that
you're gone?
Brian and I just discussed the possibilities of who the mysterious "Tonal" could
be. He knew
you were discussing this idea a ways back about starting on your own- placing
you as a prime candidate.....I lost a $5 bet on it being Martin "playing
ventriloquist" by using another email address to play out a mock argument to
bring out the good points in his biz. Yet to see if LShaping is actually the
"puppet" now--I will ask him at the SpeechTek conference.
Anyways..........Good luck! we will be your first buyer.
(PS I think we still owe you a DM1---how can we reach you?)
--
Peter Daniels
speaktoyourpc.com
1-888-412-7605
___________________________________
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1. "10 problems with voice
recognition and how to fix them"
email: tech...@speaktoyourpc.com
2. "What to look for when buying
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3. "How to tell if you're having an
audio or sound problem"
email: au...@speaktoyourpc.com
Martin Markoe
Had this post been your first, we would have started the relationship off on
the right foot. See my private message to you.
Marty
Tonal
says...
> nyways..........Good luck! we will be you
>
Ha, you owe me nothing...A DM-1 would be nice, and if Brian feels it's a
good idea then by all means!
Anyway, I am hardly a factor at this point. Nearly 100% of my business
on the outset will be Call Center related. I plan on growing VERY
slowly, very low risk.
I loved working with Brian and I hope to going forward. He knows how
hard I worked on his behalf and others behalf. I wasn't able to do
everything I wanted to do for you guys, but I feel as though I've gotten
the ball rolling.
Anyway - I will definitely keep in touch and hope to continue working
with you and Brian. In fact, if there's a way I can get some better
pricing for you guys I will. Consider it done.
Send me emails for now: je...@tonalcommunications.com
Take care,
Jeff