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DFS
May 5, 2012, 8:22:23 PM5/5/12
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"unity has vanished
no idea why, I logged in and the top and side panels are just completely
gone, I was running unity 3d with no problem."
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1974218
Stick with the Linux crapware and your sanity will vanish too. Along
with your self-esteem, your income, and your girlfriend (if you ever had
one).
no idea why, I logged in and the top and side panels are just completely
gone, I was running unity 3d with no problem."
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1974218
Stick with the Linux crapware and your sanity will vanish too. Along
with your self-esteem, your income, and your girlfriend (if you ever had
one).
Foster
May 5, 2012, 8:34:00 PM5/5/12
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Running Linux is a sure fire method for wasting time.
Mark S Bilk
May 5, 2012, 8:45:48 PM5/5/12
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On Sat, 05 May 2012 20:22:23 -0400, Microsoft Corporation,
using fraudulent ID "DFS" wrote:
> Subject: Ubuntu shitware: "Unity has vanished"
Microsoft labels Linux as "shitware" to dissuade COLA readers
from trying it.
> "unity has vanished
> no idea why, I logged in and the top and side panels are just completely
> gone, I was running unity 3d with no problem."
>
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1974218
Microsoft has chosen a Ubuntu problem report that's only
one hour old, so no one has yet posted a solution to it.
This is intended to make the reader think there is no
solution. Incidentally, I've used Linux for eleven years
and no program has ever vanished.
Now see the psychopathic hatred that "DFS" puts out. "DFS"
has posted more than 28,000 of these lying anti-Linux propaganda
messages to COLA:
using fraudulent ID "DFS" wrote:
> Subject: Ubuntu shitware: "Unity has vanished"
Microsoft labels Linux as "shitware" to dissuade COLA readers
from trying it.
> "unity has vanished
> no idea why, I logged in and the top and side panels are just completely
> gone, I was running unity 3d with no problem."
>
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1974218
one hour old, so no one has yet posted a solution to it.
This is intended to make the reader think there is no
solution. Incidentally, I've used Linux for eleven years
and no program has ever vanished.
Now see the psychopathic hatred that "DFS" puts out. "DFS"
has posted more than 28,000 of these lying anti-Linux propaganda
messages to COLA:
Foster
May 5, 2012, 8:49:48 PM5/5/12
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On 06 May 2012 00:45:48 GMT, Mark S Bilk wrote:
> On Sat, 05 May 2012 20:22:23 -0400, Microsoft Corporation,
> using fraudulent ID "DFS" wrote:
>
>> Subject: Ubuntu shitware: "Unity has vanished"
>
> Microsoft labels Linux as "shitware" to dissuade COLA readers
> from trying it.
We don't have to dissuade anyone from trying Linux.
> On Sat, 05 May 2012 20:22:23 -0400, Microsoft Corporation,
> using fraudulent ID "DFS" wrote:
>
>> Subject: Ubuntu shitware: "Unity has vanished"
>
> Microsoft labels Linux as "shitware" to dissuade COLA readers
> from trying it.
One experience with Linux is more than enough to send people running
back to Windows.
In fact, I wrote Microsoft and suggested that they include a free
copy of Linux with every Windows shrink wrap.
What better way to show the superiority of Windows than to have
people clobbering their system and losing their data by installing
Linux.
OldGoat
May 5, 2012, 11:34:24 PM5/5/12
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On 5/5/2012 6:45 PM, Mark S Bilk wrote:
> On Sat, 05 May 2012 20:22:23 -0400, Microsoft Corporation,
> using fraudulent ID "DFS" wrote:
>
>> Subject: Ubuntu shitware: "Unity has vanished"
>
> Microsoft labels Linux as "shitware" to dissuade COLA readers
> from trying it.
>
>> "unity has vanished
>> no idea why, I logged in and the top and side panels are just completely
>> gone, I was running unity 3d with no problem."
>>
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1974218
>
> Microsoft has chosen a Ubuntu problem report that's only
> one hour old, so no one has yet posted a solution to it.
> This is intended to make the reader think there is no
> solution. Incidentally, I've used Linux for eleven years
> and no program has ever vanished.
>
Well, maybe you can tell me how to fix suse 12.1.
> On Sat, 05 May 2012 20:22:23 -0400, Microsoft Corporation,
> using fraudulent ID "DFS" wrote:
>
>> Subject: Ubuntu shitware: "Unity has vanished"
>
> Microsoft labels Linux as "shitware" to dissuade COLA readers
> from trying it.
>
>> "unity has vanished
>> no idea why, I logged in and the top and side panels are just completely
>> gone, I was running unity 3d with no problem."
>>
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1974218
>
> Microsoft has chosen a Ubuntu problem report that's only
> one hour old, so no one has yet posted a solution to it.
> This is intended to make the reader think there is no
> solution. Incidentally, I've used Linux for eleven years
> and no program has ever vanished.
>
It uses the latest KDE desktop... and when I minimize a window, it
vanishes into thin air. How come?
DFS
May 5, 2012, 11:50:37 PM5/5/12
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"I've been told, by a very trustworthy source who does
not wish to be identified, that the feature set of KDE4 was chosen
by focus groups populated by random people off the street, i.e.,
naive MS-Windows users, not Linux users at all. This was ordered
by Novell while Novell was in collusion with Microsoft, and Novell
also paid for the development of KDE4."
And cola idiots wonder why they're looked upon as morons and nutjobs?
Chris Ahlstrom
May 6, 2012, 7:15:19 AM5/6/12
to
After swilling some grog, Mark S Bilk belched this bit o' wisdom:
> Now see the psychopathic hatred that "DFS" puts out. "DFS"
> has posted more than 28,000 of these lying anti-Linux propaganda
> messages to COLA:
>
>> Stick with the Linux crapware and your sanity will vanish too. Along
>> with your self-esteem, your income, and your girlfriend (if you ever had
>> one).
He's just another Internet wackjob, Mark. An abusive crank.
--
Due to a shortage of devoted followers, the production of great leaders
has been discontinued.
> Now see the psychopathic hatred that "DFS" puts out. "DFS"
> has posted more than 28,000 of these lying anti-Linux propaganda
> messages to COLA:
>
>> Stick with the Linux crapware and your sanity will vanish too. Along
>> with your self-esteem, your income, and your girlfriend (if you ever had
>> one).
--
Due to a shortage of devoted followers, the production of great leaders
has been discontinued.
Foster
May 6, 2012, 8:16:21 AM5/6/12
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lives.
People like that are born that way.
Max Wachtel
May 6, 2012, 8:48:33 AM5/6/12
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you posted about it in the suse forums? They can be most helpful...
--
when news breaks- we fix it
Chris Ahlstrom
May 6, 2012, 9:02:58 AM5/6/12
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After swilling some grog, Max Wachtel belched this bit o' wisdom:
> OldGoat wrote:
>
>>>
>> Well, maybe you can tell me how to fix suse 12.1.
>>
>> It uses the latest KDE desktop... and when I minimize a window, it
>> vanishes into thin air. How come?
That's what minimizing a window is, fool.
> I can't reproduce your issue. My install of 12.1 doesn't do that. Have
> you posted about it in the suse forums? They can be most helpful...
He needs to learn how to use his desktop, first.
--
Yes? And? Still no windows "love". Just me stating categorically that
its NOT a monopoly as Linux IS available and FREE. I know. I use it. You
just keep digging yourself deeper and deeper.
-- "Hadron"
> OldGoat wrote:
>
>>>
>> Well, maybe you can tell me how to fix suse 12.1.
>>
>> It uses the latest KDE desktop... and when I minimize a window, it
>> vanishes into thin air. How come?
> I can't reproduce your issue. My install of 12.1 doesn't do that. Have
> you posted about it in the suse forums? They can be most helpful...
--
Yes? And? Still no windows "love". Just me stating categorically that
its NOT a monopoly as Linux IS available and FREE. I know. I use it. You
just keep digging yourself deeper and deeper.
-- "Hadron"
Ingrid & Henk
May 6, 2012, 9:08:42 AM5/6/12
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"Chris Ahlstrom" <ahls...@xzoozy.com> schreef in bericht
news:jo5sq0$h32$1...@dont-email.me...
Chris Ahlstrom in COLA: When you minimize a window in latest KDE desktop
it's normal that it vanishes into thin air.
Right Chrissy?
news:jo5sq0$h32$1...@dont-email.me...
> After swilling some grog, Max Wachtel belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> OldGoat wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> Well, maybe you can tell me how to fix suse 12.1.
>>>
>>> It uses the latest KDE desktop... and when I minimize a window, it
>>> vanishes into thin air. How come?
>
> That's what minimizing a window is, fool.
Nice selfnuke.
>
>> OldGoat wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> Well, maybe you can tell me how to fix suse 12.1.
>>>
>>> It uses the latest KDE desktop... and when I minimize a window, it
>>> vanishes into thin air. How come?
>
> That's what minimizing a window is, fool.
Chris Ahlstrom in COLA: When you minimize a window in latest KDE desktop
it's normal that it vanishes into thin air.
Right Chrissy?
>
>> I can't reproduce your issue. My install of 12.1 doesn't do that. Have
>> you posted about it in the suse forums? They can be most helpful...
>
> He needs to learn how to use his desktop, first.
>
Yet another selfnuke.
>> I can't reproduce your issue. My install of 12.1 doesn't do that. Have
>> you posted about it in the suse forums? They can be most helpful...
>
> He needs to learn how to use his desktop, first.
>
William Poaster
May 6, 2012, 9:57:48 AM5/6/12
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Here is a facsimile from Chris Ahlstrom who, on 6/5/2012 14:02, wrote:
> After swilling some grog, Max Wachtel belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> OldGoat wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> Well, maybe you can tell me how to fix suse 12.1.
>>>
>>> It uses the latest KDE desktop... and when I minimize a window, it
>>> vanishes into thin air. How come?
>
> That's what minimizing a window is, fool.
Maybe the old fool sent it to one of the other virtual desktops! ;-)
> After swilling some grog, Max Wachtel belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> OldGoat wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> Well, maybe you can tell me how to fix suse 12.1.
>>>
>>> It uses the latest KDE desktop... and when I minimize a window, it
>>> vanishes into thin air. How come?
>
> That's what minimizing a window is, fool.
>> I can't reproduce your issue. My install of 12.1 doesn't do that. Have
>> you posted about it in the suse forums? They can be most helpful...
>
> He needs to learn how to use his desktop, first.
--
Linux vs. Windows is a no-Win situation
I think we blew it!
-- Robert E. Lee after Gettysburg.--
Max Wachtel
May 6, 2012, 12:18:37 PM5/6/12
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Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> After swilling some grog, Max Wachtel belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> OldGoat wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Well, maybe you can tell me how to fix suse 12.1.
>>>
>>> It uses the latest KDE desktop... and when I minimize a window, it
>>> vanishes into thin air. How come?
>
> That's what minimizing a window is, fool.
>
>> I can't reproduce your issue. My install of 12.1 doesn't do that. Have
>> you posted about it in the suse forums? They can be most helpful...
>
> He needs to learn how to use his desktop, first.
perhaps I should post my reasons for using linux?
> After swilling some grog, Max Wachtel belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> OldGoat wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Well, maybe you can tell me how to fix suse 12.1.
>>>
>>> It uses the latest KDE desktop... and when I minimize a window, it
>>> vanishes into thin air. How come?
>
> That's what minimizing a window is, fool.
>
>> I can't reproduce your issue. My install of 12.1 doesn't do that. Have
>> you posted about it in the suse forums? They can be most helpful...
>
> He needs to learn how to use his desktop, first.
Hadron
May 6, 2012, 12:38:07 PM5/6/12
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Chris Ahlstrom <ahls...@xzoozy.com> writes:
> After swilling some grog, Mark S Bilk belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Now see the psychopathic hatred that "DFS" puts out. "DFS"
>> has posted more than 28,000 of these lying anti-Linux propaganda
>> messages to COLA:
>>
>>> Stick with the Linux crapware and your sanity will vanish too. Along
>>> with your self-esteem, your income, and your girlfriend (if you ever had
>>> one).
>
> He's just another Internet wackjob, Mark. An abusive crank.
You really are a bloody idiot Ahlstrom. You're sucking up to Mark S
> After swilling some grog, Mark S Bilk belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Now see the psychopathic hatred that "DFS" puts out. "DFS"
>> has posted more than 28,000 of these lying anti-Linux propaganda
>> messages to COLA:
>>
>>> Stick with the Linux crapware and your sanity will vanish too. Along
>>> with your self-esteem, your income, and your girlfriend (if you ever had
>>> one).
>
> He's just another Internet wackjob, Mark. An abusive crank.
Bilk? Someone who believes the American Government blew up the twin
towers themselves and who believes people correcting "advocate" lies are
MS agents? Seriously, can you go any lower?
Hadron
May 6, 2012, 12:40:48 PM5/6/12
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Chris Ahlstrom <ahls...@xzoozy.com> writes:
> After swilling some grog, Max Wachtel belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> OldGoat wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> Well, maybe you can tell me how to fix suse 12.1.
>>>
>>> It uses the latest KDE desktop... and when I minimize a window, it
>>> vanishes into thin air. How come?
>
> That's what minimizing a window is, fool.
LOL. Only someone as much of a dumbarse as yourself would think no one
> After swilling some grog, Max Wachtel belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> OldGoat wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> Well, maybe you can tell me how to fix suse 12.1.
>>>
>>> It uses the latest KDE desktop... and when I minimize a window, it
>>> vanishes into thin air. How come?
>
> That's what minimizing a window is, fool.
would notice your deliberate misinterpretation.
$(".advocatepost").delay(10000).suckUp("#creepyChrisAhlstrom");
Peter Köhlmann
May 6, 2012, 12:51:28 PM5/6/12
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GreyClouds claims.
That senile fool has lots of problems nobody can reproduce. In short, he is
either incredible stupid and incompetent, or he is making shit up
OldGoat
May 6, 2012, 1:22:29 PM5/6/12
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This is one of the wierdest problems I've ever seen.
It works fine under IceWM. I downloaded a desktop theme and that is
when the problem started... so I uninstalled the theme but the problem
persists.
OldGoat
May 6, 2012, 1:23:37 PM5/6/12
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On 5/6/2012 7:02 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> After swilling some grog, Max Wachtel belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> OldGoat wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> Well, maybe you can tell me how to fix suse 12.1.
>>>
>>> It uses the latest KDE desktop... and when I minimize a window, it
>>> vanishes into thin air. How come?
>
> That's what minimizing a window is, fool.
>
Moron,... learn to read and understand what a word means...
> After swilling some grog, Max Wachtel belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> OldGoat wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> Well, maybe you can tell me how to fix suse 12.1.
>>>
>>> It uses the latest KDE desktop... and when I minimize a window, it
>>> vanishes into thin air. How come?
>
> That's what minimizing a window is, fool.
>
vanishes into thin air and not to be found *ANYWHERE*.
>> I can't reproduce your issue. My install of 12.1 doesn't do that. Have
>> you posted about it in the suse forums? They can be most helpful...
>
> He needs to learn how to use his desktop, first.
>
OldGoat
May 6, 2012, 1:24:27 PM5/6/12
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On 5/6/2012 7:57 AM, William Poaster wrote:
> Here is a facsimile from Chris Ahlstrom who, on 6/5/2012 14:02, wrote:
>
>> After swilling some grog, Max Wachtel belched this bit o' wisdom:
>>
>>> OldGoat wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Well, maybe you can tell me how to fix suse 12.1.
>>>>
>>>> It uses the latest KDE desktop... and when I minimize a window, it
>>>> vanishes into thin air. How come?
>>
>> That's what minimizing a window is, fool.
>
> Maybe the old fool sent it to one of the other virtual desktops! ;-)
>
>>> I can't reproduce your issue. My install of 12.1 doesn't do that. Have
>>> you posted about it in the suse forums? They can be most helpful...
>>
>> He needs to learn how to use his desktop, first.
>
> Next he'll be asking "What's a desktop?"<grin>
>
Another moron that doesn't know how to read.
> Here is a facsimile from Chris Ahlstrom who, on 6/5/2012 14:02, wrote:
>
>> After swilling some grog, Max Wachtel belched this bit o' wisdom:
>>
>>> OldGoat wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Well, maybe you can tell me how to fix suse 12.1.
>>>>
>>>> It uses the latest KDE desktop... and when I minimize a window, it
>>>> vanishes into thin air. How come?
>>
>> That's what minimizing a window is, fool.
>
> Maybe the old fool sent it to one of the other virtual desktops! ;-)
>
>>> I can't reproduce your issue. My install of 12.1 doesn't do that. Have
>>> you posted about it in the suse forums? They can be most helpful...
>>
>> He needs to learn how to use his desktop, first.
>
> Next he'll be asking "What's a desktop?"<grin>
>
Guffaw!!!
Lieing for Lienux, eh Billy Toast?
Snit
May 6, 2012, 1:24:59 PM5/6/12
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On 5/6/12 9:51 AM, in article jo6aa5$17h$1...@dont-email.me, "Peter Köhlmann"
But he provides no quotes. Well, here are quotes of Peter showing technical
incompetence and, by denying this, lying:
---------------------------------------------------------------
Peter Köhlmann
-----
> When you launch it, the splash screen says 'gimp'
Nope.
------
<http://www.gimp.org/about/splash/stable.html>
---------------------------------------------------------------
Peter Köhlmann:
-----
The apps with "Quit" do *not* exit, they continue to run
in the background
-----
Had he known how to use "top" he would know he was wrong:
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/top.mov>>
---------------------------------------------------------------
Peter Köhlmann, in reference to <http://goo.gl/IjlkV>:
-----
You both show just *again* your incredible cluelessness. That is
*standard* X behaviour, you cretins. That Snot Michael Glasser
knows *nothing* about that is normal, he is the worst "IT teacher"
of all time. He knows nothing usefull about computing.
-----
---------------------------------------------------------------
Peter Köhlmann (after saying I am wrong to speak of the problems
of inconsistency on desktop Linux):
-----
Why would a user install apps from different DEs if he does
not need to?
-----
---------------------------------------------------------------
In reference to: <http://goo.gl/gBV6G> / <http://goo.gl/nysWd>
Peter Köhlmann:
-----
> What's to understand? I can't read, write, copy or
> delete a root-owned folder... but I can rename it.
Actually, no, you can't
And stop lying. I have tested it.
-----
You have to tamper with the permissions to have it different. And
for that reason DFS claims are simply bullshit.
-----
I can't duplicate the "problem" on any machine here.
-----
Since "Lost+found" is not created with the sticky bit at all, it
should not exhibit the behaviour DFS claims. And I can do whatever
I want with it on my systems (on all of them), it certainly does
not behave in any way near that way claimed
-----
Snot forges his evidence as needed
-----
---------------------------------------------------------------
Peter Köhlmann, speaking of HTML5:
-----
And browsers on desktop computers have little, if any, need to
adhere to such a "standard" which has no real reason to exist
except to support the idiotic iDevices
-----
---------------------------------------------------------------
Peter Köhlmann:
I don't care what that guy has to say. Anyone chosing Gnome
as DE is already disqualified. Gnome is hideous, technically
(for programmers) and optically
Linus Torvalds:
I thought KDE 4.0 was such a disaster, I switched to GNOME.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Snit:
-----
Doing a quick search on the web I find this:
<http://www.cann.ca/apa-template.doc>
-----
Peter Köhlmann:
------
Naturally you fail to provide the URL, as usual
-----
---------------------------------------------------------------
Snit:
-----
Excellent screencasting software, similar to ScreenFlow. And
example of something I find key to its use:
<http://youtu.be/To4v70huwAU>. What OSS tool on desktop Linux
has anything even close?
-----
Peter Köhlmann:
-----
There are several more. Look up "Istanbul" for example or
"Byzanz", or "Cankiri" The list can grow quite a bit, but
these are the most used ones
-----
None of the three programs Peter pointed to do the task shown in the
video... and Peter was never able to find *any* way to do such a task on
desktop Linux. He never admitted to this, of course.
---------------------------------------------------------------
On and on and on. Come on, Peter, you claim I am wrong so often... but
about what? Back your accusations! Hey, and while you are at it, prove DFS
right about how technically competent the herd is and show how right you
were with your above idiotic claims.
--
Proof of cc's bad faith: <http://goo.gl/a45Rm>
Until cc can be honest, there is no point in going forward with the
discussion he is begging me to have with him.
<peter-k...@t-online.de> wrote:
> Only a dishonest cretinous Snit like you would heed any importance to
> GreyClouds claims.
More attacks from Peter... where he accuses me of lying.
> Only a dishonest cretinous Snit like you would heed any importance to
> GreyClouds claims.
But he provides no quotes. Well, here are quotes of Peter showing technical
incompetence and, by denying this, lying:
---------------------------------------------------------------
Peter Köhlmann
-----
> When you launch it, the splash screen says 'gimp'
Nope.
------
<http://www.gimp.org/about/splash/stable.html>
---------------------------------------------------------------
Peter Köhlmann:
-----
The apps with "Quit" do *not* exit, they continue to run
in the background
-----
Had he known how to use "top" he would know he was wrong:
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/top.mov>>
---------------------------------------------------------------
Peter Köhlmann, in reference to <http://goo.gl/IjlkV>:
-----
You both show just *again* your incredible cluelessness. That is
*standard* X behaviour, you cretins. That Snot Michael Glasser
knows *nothing* about that is normal, he is the worst "IT teacher"
of all time. He knows nothing usefull about computing.
-----
---------------------------------------------------------------
Peter Köhlmann (after saying I am wrong to speak of the problems
of inconsistency on desktop Linux):
-----
Why would a user install apps from different DEs if he does
not need to?
-----
---------------------------------------------------------------
In reference to: <http://goo.gl/gBV6G> / <http://goo.gl/nysWd>
Peter Köhlmann:
-----
> What's to understand? I can't read, write, copy or
> delete a root-owned folder... but I can rename it.
Actually, no, you can't
And stop lying. I have tested it.
-----
You have to tamper with the permissions to have it different. And
for that reason DFS claims are simply bullshit.
-----
I can't duplicate the "problem" on any machine here.
-----
Since "Lost+found" is not created with the sticky bit at all, it
should not exhibit the behaviour DFS claims. And I can do whatever
I want with it on my systems (on all of them), it certainly does
not behave in any way near that way claimed
-----
Snot forges his evidence as needed
-----
---------------------------------------------------------------
Peter Köhlmann, speaking of HTML5:
-----
And browsers on desktop computers have little, if any, need to
adhere to such a "standard" which has no real reason to exist
except to support the idiotic iDevices
-----
---------------------------------------------------------------
Peter Köhlmann:
I don't care what that guy has to say. Anyone chosing Gnome
as DE is already disqualified. Gnome is hideous, technically
(for programmers) and optically
Linus Torvalds:
I thought KDE 4.0 was such a disaster, I switched to GNOME.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Snit:
-----
Doing a quick search on the web I find this:
<http://www.cann.ca/apa-template.doc>
-----
Peter Köhlmann:
------
Naturally you fail to provide the URL, as usual
-----
---------------------------------------------------------------
Snit:
-----
Excellent screencasting software, similar to ScreenFlow. And
example of something I find key to its use:
<http://youtu.be/To4v70huwAU>. What OSS tool on desktop Linux
has anything even close?
-----
Peter Köhlmann:
-----
There are several more. Look up "Istanbul" for example or
"Byzanz", or "Cankiri" The list can grow quite a bit, but
these are the most used ones
-----
None of the three programs Peter pointed to do the task shown in the
video... and Peter was never able to find *any* way to do such a task on
desktop Linux. He never admitted to this, of course.
---------------------------------------------------------------
On and on and on. Come on, Peter, you claim I am wrong so often... but
about what? Back your accusations! Hey, and while you are at it, prove DFS
right about how technically competent the herd is and show how right you
were with your above idiotic claims.
--
Proof of cc's bad faith: <http://goo.gl/a45Rm>
Until cc can be honest, there is no point in going forward with the
discussion he is begging me to have with him.
OldGoat
May 6, 2012, 1:28:34 PM5/6/12
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Now, maybe you can tell me how to fix this mess?
The process monitor shows 15 Konsole processes that I can't get access
to anywhere on the screen. I kill off these processes.
Start up Konsole. Click on the minimize button. The minimize effect
looks like the image shrinks in place where the app used to be. It
doesn't drop down to the task bar like it used to do.
I do see in the first of four small vts at the task bar of ghosted
images of Konsole and many Firefoxes... I click on that and the screen
dims. What gives?
Chris Ahlstrom
May 6, 2012, 1:38:44 PM5/6/12
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After swilling some grog, Peter Köhlmann belched this bit o' wisdom:
> Hadron wrote:
>
>> Chris Ahlstrom <ahls...@xzoozy.com> writes:
>>
>>> After swilling some grog, Max Wachtel belched this bit o' wisdom:
>>>
>>>> OldGoat wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Well, maybe you can tell me how to fix suse 12.1.
>>>>>
>>>>> It uses the latest KDE desktop... and when I minimize a window, it
>>>>> vanishes into thin air. How come?
>>>
>>> That's what minimizing a window is, fool.
>>
>> LOL. Only someone as much of a dumbarse as yourself would think no one
>> would notice your deliberate misinterpretation.
No misinterpretation. In all window managers that I have used,
minimizing a window makes it disappear. Some wm's will show an icon
in the task bar. Others (like Fluxbox), will only show it in a
middle-click menu).
>> $(".advocatepost").delay(10000).suckUp("#creepyChrisAhlstrom");
>
> Only a dishonest cretinous Snit like you would heed any importance to
> GreyClouds claims.
> That senile fool has lots of problems nobody can reproduce. In short, he is
> either incredible stupid and incompetent, or he is making shit up
I like "Hadron"'s attempt at programming, though.
Unfortunately, my belief is that "Hadron" is, at best, a code fister.
--
Yeah Gortard. They made it on Linux and released it for Windows. LOL.
-- "True Linux Advocate" "Hadron". Copied from Google Groups.
> Hadron wrote:
>
>> Chris Ahlstrom <ahls...@xzoozy.com> writes:
>>
>>> After swilling some grog, Max Wachtel belched this bit o' wisdom:
>>>
>>>> OldGoat wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Well, maybe you can tell me how to fix suse 12.1.
>>>>>
>>>>> It uses the latest KDE desktop... and when I minimize a window, it
>>>>> vanishes into thin air. How come?
>>>
>>> That's what minimizing a window is, fool.
>>
>> LOL. Only someone as much of a dumbarse as yourself would think no one
>> would notice your deliberate misinterpretation.
minimizing a window makes it disappear. Some wm's will show an icon
in the task bar. Others (like Fluxbox), will only show it in a
middle-click menu).
>> $(".advocatepost").delay(10000).suckUp("#creepyChrisAhlstrom");
>
> Only a dishonest cretinous Snit like you would heed any importance to
> GreyClouds claims.
> That senile fool has lots of problems nobody can reproduce. In short, he is
> either incredible stupid and incompetent, or he is making shit up
Unfortunately, my belief is that "Hadron" is, at best, a code fister.
--
Yeah Gortard. They made it on Linux and released it for Windows. LOL.
-- "True Linux Advocate" "Hadron". Copied from Google Groups.
Chris Ahlstrom
May 6, 2012, 1:39:34 PM5/6/12
to
the flexibility of it. It's a lot of fun.
--
IMO Better and more convenient to use screen. Once you have the screen
controls mastered its great and means you navigate using same key
between terminals (tabs..) and other processes. The ability to attach
and detach from the underlying terminal sessions/processes is
wonderful. I set up 4 default processes in my .screenrc so when I start
up screen I get a text mode emacs client, an mplayer streaming radio,
htop and a terminal. I set up a hot key in xmonad to run screen and
reattach if not already attached. From screen its a normal screen
command C-a d to detach. Then xmonad hot key to open screen again with
all the processes "as they were". The screen session can run even over
log in sessions so on a constantly powered machine it might be the same
session for months. Wonderfully powerful. And then not forgetting you
can ssh in and reattach to that screen session from half way around the
world! If you used a curses/text based mail reader that could be running
in a screen session so you have instant access with no login or start up
time. Wonderful, great, useful and underused program is our screen...
-- "Hadron" <hbci6c$igm$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
Peter Köhlmann
May 6, 2012, 1:38:37 PM5/6/12
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I too have a Suse12.1 install here.
And boy, are you lying. Are you another Snit?
Hadron
May 6, 2012, 1:42:37 PM5/6/12
to
Chris Ahlstrom <ahls...@xzoozy.com> writes:
> After swilling some grog, Max Wachtel belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> After swilling some grog, Max Wachtel belched this bit o' wisdom:
>>>
>>>> OldGoat wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Well, maybe you can tell me how to fix suse 12.1.
>>>>>
>>>>> It uses the latest KDE desktop... and when I minimize a window, it
>>>>> vanishes into thin air. How come?
>>>
>>> That's what minimizing a window is, fool.
>>>
>>>> I can't reproduce your issue. My install of 12.1 doesn't do that. Have
>>>> you posted about it in the suse forums? They can be most helpful...
>>>
>>> He needs to learn how to use his desktop, first.
>>
>> perhaps I should post my reasons for using linux?
>
> Whatever floats your boat. I use Linux because I love how it works and
> the flexibility of it. It's a lot of fun.
hey Creepy, nice .sig!
> After swilling some grog, Max Wachtel belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> After swilling some grog, Max Wachtel belched this bit o' wisdom:
>>>
>>>> OldGoat wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Well, maybe you can tell me how to fix suse 12.1.
>>>>>
>>>>> It uses the latest KDE desktop... and when I minimize a window, it
>>>>> vanishes into thin air. How come?
>>>
>>> That's what minimizing a window is, fool.
>>>
>>>> I can't reproduce your issue. My install of 12.1 doesn't do that. Have
>>>> you posted about it in the suse forums? They can be most helpful...
>>>
>>> He needs to learn how to use his desktop, first.
>>
>> perhaps I should post my reasons for using linux?
>
> Whatever floats your boat. I use Linux because I love how it works and
> the flexibility of it. It's a lot of fun.
Of course I migrtaed to tmux and told you all about it and now I see you
strutting around using it too. LOL!
,----
| --
| IMO Better and more convenient to use screen. Once you have the screen
| controls mastered its great and means you navigate using same key
| between terminals (tabs..) and other processes. The ability to attach
| and detach from the underlying terminal sessions/processes is
| wonderful. I set up 4 default processes in my .screenrc so when I start
| up screen I get a text mode emacs client, an mplayer streaming radio,
| htop and a terminal. I set up a hot key in xmonad to run screen and
| reattach if not already attached. From screen its a normal screen
| command C-a d to detach. Then xmonad hot key to open screen again with
| all the processes "as they were". The screen session can run even over
| log in sessions so on a constantly powered machine it might be the same
| session for months. Wonderfully powerful. And then not forgetting you
| can ssh in and reattach to that screen session from half way around the
| world! If you used a curses/text based mail reader that could be running
| in a screen session so you have instant access with no login or start up
| time. Wonderful, great, useful and underused program is our screen...
| -- "Hadron" <hbci6c$igm$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
`----
| IMO Better and more convenient to use screen. Once you have the screen
| controls mastered its great and means you navigate using same key
| between terminals (tabs..) and other processes. The ability to attach
| and detach from the underlying terminal sessions/processes is
| wonderful. I set up 4 default processes in my .screenrc so when I start
| up screen I get a text mode emacs client, an mplayer streaming radio,
| htop and a terminal. I set up a hot key in xmonad to run screen and
| reattach if not already attached. From screen its a normal screen
| command C-a d to detach. Then xmonad hot key to open screen again with
| all the processes "as they were". The screen session can run even over
| log in sessions so on a constantly powered machine it might be the same
| session for months. Wonderfully powerful. And then not forgetting you
| can ssh in and reattach to that screen session from half way around the
| world! If you used a curses/text based mail reader that could be running
| in a screen session so you have instant access with no login or start up
| time. Wonderful, great, useful and underused program is our screen...
| -- "Hadron" <hbci6c$igm$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
You really self nuked with that boozo!
DFS
May 6, 2012, 2:13:00 PM5/6/12
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On 5/6/2012 1:28 PM, OldGoat wrote:
Can you post a screenshot?
You can upload it to http://bayimg.com/
You can upload it to http://bayimg.com/
Snit
May 6, 2012, 2:18:20 PM5/6/12
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On 5/6/12 10:38 AM, in article jo6cv2$h46$1...@dont-email.me, "Chris Ahlstrom"
have it get "sucked" into the application icon. In either case, right
clicking on the application icon will show you the windows - minimized or
not. You can *also* easily hide an application - something which is very
handy and reduces the need for virtual desktops in many cases (not that it
does so fully or that it is not easy to find examples where it would not).
...
<ahls...@xzoozy.com> wrote:
> After swilling some grog, Peter Köhlmann belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> Chris Ahlstrom <ahls...@xzoozy.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> After swilling some grog, Max Wachtel belched this bit o' wisdom:
>>>>
>>>>> OldGoat wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, maybe you can tell me how to fix suse 12.1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It uses the latest KDE desktop... and when I minimize a window, it
>>>>>> vanishes into thin air. How come?
>>>>
>>>> That's what minimizing a window is, fool.
>>>
>>> LOL. Only someone as much of a dumbarse as yourself would think no one
>>> would notice your deliberate misinterpretation.
>
> No misinterpretation. In all window managers that I have used,
> minimizing a window makes it disappear. Some wm's will show an icon
> in the task bar. Others (like Fluxbox), will only show it in a
> middle-click menu).
On OS X you get the option - have it show on the Dock (the "task bar") or
> After swilling some grog, Peter Köhlmann belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> Chris Ahlstrom <ahls...@xzoozy.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> After swilling some grog, Max Wachtel belched this bit o' wisdom:
>>>>
>>>>> OldGoat wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, maybe you can tell me how to fix suse 12.1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It uses the latest KDE desktop... and when I minimize a window, it
>>>>>> vanishes into thin air. How come?
>>>>
>>>> That's what minimizing a window is, fool.
>>>
>>> LOL. Only someone as much of a dumbarse as yourself would think no one
>>> would notice your deliberate misinterpretation.
>
> No misinterpretation. In all window managers that I have used,
> minimizing a window makes it disappear. Some wm's will show an icon
> in the task bar. Others (like Fluxbox), will only show it in a
> middle-click menu).
have it get "sucked" into the application icon. In either case, right
clicking on the application icon will show you the windows - minimized or
not. You can *also* easily hide an application - something which is very
handy and reduces the need for virtual desktops in many cases (not that it
does so fully or that it is not easy to find examples where it would not).
...
Snit
May 6, 2012, 2:56:44 PM5/6/12
to
On 5/6/12 10:39 AM, in article jo6d0k$h46$2...@dont-email.me, "Chris Ahlstrom"
I prefer benefits to productivity, benefits tied to error reduction, greater
efficiency, etc. But I am a strong believer in choice and have no problem
with you focusing on different priorities.
<ahls...@xzoozy.com> wrote:
>>> He needs to learn how to use his desktop, first.
>>
>> perhaps I should post my reasons for using linux?
>
> Whatever floats your boat. I use Linux because I love how it works and
> the flexibility of it. It's a lot of fun.
Fun. Flexible. OK, I can see that.
>>> He needs to learn how to use his desktop, first.
>>
>> perhaps I should post my reasons for using linux?
>
> Whatever floats your boat. I use Linux because I love how it works and
> the flexibility of it. It's a lot of fun.
I prefer benefits to productivity, benefits tied to error reduction, greater
efficiency, etc. But I am a strong believer in choice and have no problem
with you focusing on different priorities.
OldGoat
May 6, 2012, 6:11:50 PM5/6/12
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So much for your technical prowess.
What I did to solve the problem was to re-install suse.
That fixed the problem... what happened to the original install? I
dunno, but it was a real problem... and I've never seen anything like it
before. So much for their quality.
OldGoat
May 6, 2012, 6:13:18 PM5/6/12
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On 5/6/2012 12:13 PM, DFS wrote:
> On 5/6/2012 1:28 PM, OldGoat wrote:
> On 5/6/2012 1:28 PM, OldGoat wrote:
make a screen shot... so I had to reinstall it. But this problem was
the worst I've ever seen.
The re-installation fixed the problem. Damned if I know what happened.
OldGoat
May 6, 2012, 6:14:41 PM5/6/12
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On 5/6/2012 11:38 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> After swilling some grog, Peter Köhlmann belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> Chris Ahlstrom<ahls...@xzoozy.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> After swilling some grog, Max Wachtel belched this bit o' wisdom:
>>>>
>>>>> OldGoat wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, maybe you can tell me how to fix suse 12.1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It uses the latest KDE desktop... and when I minimize a window, it
>>>>>> vanishes into thin air. How come?
>>>>
>>>> That's what minimizing a window is, fool.
>>>
>>> LOL. Only someone as much of a dumbarse as yourself would think no one
>>> would notice your deliberate misinterpretation.
>
> No misinterpretation. In all window managers that I have used,
> minimizing a window makes it disappear. Some wm's will show an icon
> in the task bar. Others (like Fluxbox), will only show it in a
> middle-click menu).
Yes, you misinterpreted what I wrote. When I mean that the minimize
> After swilling some grog, Peter Köhlmann belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> Chris Ahlstrom<ahls...@xzoozy.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> After swilling some grog, Max Wachtel belched this bit o' wisdom:
>>>>
>>>>> OldGoat wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, maybe you can tell me how to fix suse 12.1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It uses the latest KDE desktop... and when I minimize a window, it
>>>>>> vanishes into thin air. How come?
>>>>
>>>> That's what minimizing a window is, fool.
>>>
>>> LOL. Only someone as much of a dumbarse as yourself would think no one
>>> would notice your deliberate misinterpretation.
>
> No misinterpretation. In all window managers that I have used,
> minimizing a window makes it disappear. Some wm's will show an icon
> in the task bar. Others (like Fluxbox), will only show it in a
> middle-click menu).
button on the app made the app totally disappear... I mean it vanished
like a fart in a hurricane and no where to be found.
Peter Köhlmann
May 6, 2012, 6:59:59 PM5/6/12
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You managed to borke an idiot proof installation
William Poaster
May 6, 2012, 7:08:29 PM5/6/12
to
he's Hadron's brother.
--
When the universe is divided by zero, black holes occur.
Chris Ahlstrom
May 6, 2012, 8:10:12 PM5/6/12
to
After swilling some grog, Peter Köhlmann belched this bit o' wisdom:
> OldGoat wrote:
>
>> It appears that you just don't have an answer.
>> So much for your technical prowess.
>> What I did to solve the problem was to re-install suse.
>> That fixed the problem... what happened to the original install? I
>> dunno, but it was a real problem... and I've never seen anything like it
>> before. So much for their quality.
>
> No. So much for your "competence". It is on a Snit level. Non-existant.
>
> You managed to borke an idiot proof installation
Maybe all the old goat had to do was reconstruct $HOME.
Instead, he followed the path that is all too seductive for Windows
users... reinstall the whole damned OS.
I wonder why "Hadron" did not help him?
--
,----
| >> officially confirmed that rooted devices won't be allowed to play with
| >> the film rental service that forms part of the Android 'Honeycomb' 3.1
| >> update.
`----
This means people who rooted to run things like wifi-3g gateway SW WONT
be able to use the full online resources available to others.
It is censorship....
-- "Hadron" <qczkmd2...@news.eternal-september.org>
> OldGoat wrote:
>
>> It appears that you just don't have an answer.
>> So much for your technical prowess.
>> What I did to solve the problem was to re-install suse.
>> That fixed the problem... what happened to the original install? I
>> dunno, but it was a real problem... and I've never seen anything like it
>> before. So much for their quality.
>
> No. So much for your "competence". It is on a Snit level. Non-existant.
>
> You managed to borke an idiot proof installation
Instead, he followed the path that is all too seductive for Windows
users... reinstall the whole damned OS.
I wonder why "Hadron" did not help him?
--
,----
| >> officially confirmed that rooted devices won't be allowed to play with
| >> the film rental service that forms part of the Android 'Honeycomb' 3.1
| >> update.
`----
This means people who rooted to run things like wifi-3g gateway SW WONT
be able to use the full online resources available to others.
It is censorship....
-- "Hadron" <qczkmd2...@news.eternal-september.org>
Snit
May 6, 2012, 8:30:56 PM5/6/12
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On 5/6/12 5:10 PM, in article jo73t1$lm2$2...@dont-email.me, "Chris Ahlstrom"
do ... *not* because it is the best or only solution.
<ahls...@xzoozy.com> wrote:
>>> It appears that you just don't have an answer.
>>> So much for your technical prowess.
>>> What I did to solve the problem was to re-install suse.
>>> That fixed the problem... what happened to the original install? I
>>> dunno, but it was a real problem... and I've never seen anything like it
>>> before. So much for their quality.
>>
>> No. So much for your "competence". It is on a Snit level. Non-existant.
>>
>> You managed to borke an idiot proof installation
>
> Maybe all the old goat had to do was reconstruct $HOME.
>
> Instead, he followed the path that is all too seductive for Windows
> users... reinstall the whole damned OS.
>
> I wonder why "Hadron" did not help him?
In both cases, perhaps, people re-install because they is what they know to
>>> It appears that you just don't have an answer.
>>> So much for your technical prowess.
>>> What I did to solve the problem was to re-install suse.
>>> That fixed the problem... what happened to the original install? I
>>> dunno, but it was a real problem... and I've never seen anything like it
>>> before. So much for their quality.
>>
>> No. So much for your "competence". It is on a Snit level. Non-existant.
>>
>> You managed to borke an idiot proof installation
>
> Maybe all the old goat had to do was reconstruct $HOME.
>
> Instead, he followed the path that is all too seductive for Windows
> users... reinstall the whole damned OS.
>
> I wonder why "Hadron" did not help him?
do ... *not* because it is the best or only solution.
GreyCloud
May 6, 2012, 10:56:51 PM5/6/12
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It was borked out of the box. So much for your pet openSuse.
I re-downloaded and checksumed it again and burnt a new dvd.
I then reinstalled it and so far it is working, including
Knode. Gee, ya think that Suses' server was working correctly
last week? I don't think so.
GreyCloud
May 6, 2012, 10:57:46 PM5/6/12
to
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> After swilling some grog, Peter Köhlmann belched this bit o'
wisdom:
>
>> OldGoat wrote:
>>
>>> It appears that you just don't have an answer.
>>> So much for your technical prowess.
>>> What I did to solve the problem was to re-install suse.
>>> That fixed the problem... what happened to the original
install? I
>>> dunno, but it was a real problem... and I've never seen
anything like it
>>> before. So much for their quality.
>>
>> No. So much for your "competence". It is on a Snit level.
Non-existant.
>>
>> You managed to borke an idiot proof installation
>
> Maybe all the old goat had to do was reconstruct $HOME.
>
> Instead, he followed the path that is all too seductive for
Windows
> users... reinstall the whole damned OS.
>
> I wonder why "Hadron" did not help him?
>
Yeah, right... did you ever reconstruct your home after the
> After swilling some grog, Peter Köhlmann belched this bit o'
wisdom:
>
>> OldGoat wrote:
>>
>>> It appears that you just don't have an answer.
>>> So much for your technical prowess.
>>> What I did to solve the problem was to re-install suse.
>>> That fixed the problem... what happened to the original
install? I
>>> dunno, but it was a real problem... and I've never seen
anything like it
>>> before. So much for their quality.
>>
>> No. So much for your "competence". It is on a Snit level.
Non-existant.
>>
>> You managed to borke an idiot proof installation
>
> Maybe all the old goat had to do was reconstruct $HOME.
>
> Instead, he followed the path that is all too seductive for
Windows
> users... reinstall the whole damned OS.
>
> I wonder why "Hadron" did not help him?
>
big bad wolf blew down your straw house?
Guffaw!!!
GreyCloud
May 6, 2012, 11:00:42 PM5/6/12
to
Snit wrote:
> On 5/6/12 5:10 PM, in article jo73t1$lm2$2...@dont-email.me,
"Chris Ahlstrom"
> <ahls...@xzoozy.com> wrote:
>
>>>> It appears that you just don't have an answer.
>>>> So much for your technical prowess.
>>>> What I did to solve the problem was to re-install suse.
>>>> That fixed the problem... what happened to the original
install? I
>>>> dunno, but it was a real problem... and I've never seen
anything like
>>>> it
>>>> before. So much for their quality.
>>>
>>> No. So much for your "competence". It is on a Snit level.
Non-existant.
>>>
>>> You managed to borke an idiot proof installation
>>
>> Maybe all the old goat had to do was reconstruct $HOME.
>>
>> Instead, he followed the path that is all too seductive for
Windows
>> users... reinstall the whole damned OS.
>>
>> I wonder why "Hadron" did not help him?
>
> In both cases, perhaps, people re-install because they is
what they know
> to do ... *not* because it is the best or only solution.
>
>
In this case the installation was so badly borked, I had to
> On 5/6/12 5:10 PM, in article jo73t1$lm2$2...@dont-email.me,
"Chris Ahlstrom"
> <ahls...@xzoozy.com> wrote:
>
>>>> It appears that you just don't have an answer.
>>>> So much for your technical prowess.
>>>> What I did to solve the problem was to re-install suse.
>>>> That fixed the problem... what happened to the original
install? I
>>>> dunno, but it was a real problem... and I've never seen
anything like
>>>> it
>>>> before. So much for their quality.
>>>
>>> No. So much for your "competence". It is on a Snit level.
Non-existant.
>>>
>>> You managed to borke an idiot proof installation
>>
>> Maybe all the old goat had to do was reconstruct $HOME.
>>
>> Instead, he followed the path that is all too seductive for
Windows
>> users... reinstall the whole damned OS.
>>
>> I wonder why "Hadron" did not help him?
>
> In both cases, perhaps, people re-install because they is
what they know
> to do ... *not* because it is the best or only solution.
>
>
redownload the whole thing and checksum it. Then did a
reinstall, which only took about 15 minutes. Things are now
working correctly... and gee, even Knode can now download the
newsgroup list. I knew from the beginning that when Knode
wasn't getting a list something was really wrong.
There is one nasty little in the system on login... if you
don't have a window manager selected... when you log in you'll
get a black screen.
GreyCloud
May 6, 2012, 11:01:41 PM5/6/12
to
think this stuff works out of the box as is, you are totally
nuts.
GreyCloud
May 6, 2012, 11:02:27 PM5/6/12
to
believing he is a topknotch programmer. HAHAHAHAH!!!
GreyCloud
May 6, 2012, 11:03:49 PM5/6/12
to
Ingrid & Henk wrote:
> "Chris Ahlstrom" <ahls...@xzoozy.com> schreef in bericht
> news:jo5sq0$h32$1...@dont-email.me...
> Chris Ahlstrom in COLA: When you minimize a window in latest
KDE desktop
> it's normal that it vanishes into thin air.
> Right Chrissy?
He can't read. He still has to get on knees to beg jayne for
a set of reading glasses... and a new keyboard.
>>
>>> I can't reproduce your issue. My install of 12.1 doesn't
do that. Have
>>> you posted about it in the suse forums? They can be most
helpful...
>>
Ol' creepy is good at nuking himself lately.
> "Chris Ahlstrom" <ahls...@xzoozy.com> schreef in bericht
> news:jo5sq0$h32$1...@dont-email.me...
>> After swilling some grog, Max Wachtel belched this bit o'
wisdom:
>>
>>> OldGoat wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Well, maybe you can tell me how to fix suse 12.1.
>>>>
>>>> It uses the latest KDE desktop... and when I minimize a
window, it
>>>> vanishes into thin air. How come?
>>
>> That's what minimizing a window is, fool.
>
> Nice selfnuke.
wisdom:
>>
>>> OldGoat wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Well, maybe you can tell me how to fix suse 12.1.
>>>>
>>>> It uses the latest KDE desktop... and when I minimize a
window, it
>>>> vanishes into thin air. How come?
>>
>> That's what minimizing a window is, fool.
>
> Chris Ahlstrom in COLA: When you minimize a window in latest
KDE desktop
> it's normal that it vanishes into thin air.
> Right Chrissy?
He can't read. He still has to get on knees to beg jayne for
a set of reading glasses... and a new keyboard.
>>
>>> I can't reproduce your issue. My install of 12.1 doesn't
do that. Have
>>> you posted about it in the suse forums? They can be most
helpful...
>>
>> He needs to learn how to use his desktop, first.
>>
> Yet another selfnuke.
>>
Ol' creepy is good at nuking himself lately.
GreyCloud
May 6, 2012, 11:05:33 PM5/6/12
to
DFS wrote:
> On 5/5/2012 11:34 PM, OldGoat wrote:
>> On 5/5/2012 6:45 PM, Mark S Bilk wrote:
>>> On Sat, 05 May 2012 20:22:23 -0400, Microsoft Corporation,
>>> using fraudulent ID "DFS" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Subject: Ubuntu shitware: "Unity has vanished"
>>>
>>> Microsoft labels Linux as "shitware" to dissuade COLA
readers
>>> from trying it.
>>>
>>>> "unity has vanished
>>>> no idea why, I logged in and the top and side panels are
just
>>>> completely gone, I was running unity 3d with no problem."
>>>>
>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1974218
>>>
>>> Microsoft has chosen a Ubuntu problem report that's only
>>> one hour old, so no one has yet posted a solution to it.
>>> This is intended to make the reader think there is no
>>> solution. Incidentally, I've used Linux for eleven years
>>> and no program has ever vanished.
>>>
>>
>
> "I've been told, by a very trustworthy source who does
> not wish to be identified, that the feature set of KDE4 was
chosen
> by focus groups populated by random people off the street,
i.e.,
> naive MS-Windows users, not Linux users at all. This was
ordered
> by Novell while Novell was in collusion with Microsoft, and
Novell
> also paid for the development of KDE4."
>
>
> And cola idiots wonder why they're looked upon as morons and
nutjobs?
And of course, whackjobs. It seems that their precious linux,
when there is a complaint about it and how badly it
works,seems to get them all excited and then the wailing and
gnashing of teeth starts in.
> On 5/5/2012 11:34 PM, OldGoat wrote:
>> On 5/5/2012 6:45 PM, Mark S Bilk wrote:
>>> On Sat, 05 May 2012 20:22:23 -0400, Microsoft Corporation,
>>> using fraudulent ID "DFS" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Subject: Ubuntu shitware: "Unity has vanished"
>>>
>>> Microsoft labels Linux as "shitware" to dissuade COLA
readers
>>> from trying it.
>>>
>>>> "unity has vanished
>>>> no idea why, I logged in and the top and side panels are
just
>>>> completely gone, I was running unity 3d with no problem."
>>>>
>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1974218
>>>
>>> Microsoft has chosen a Ubuntu problem report that's only
>>> one hour old, so no one has yet posted a solution to it.
>>> This is intended to make the reader think there is no
>>> solution. Incidentally, I've used Linux for eleven years
>>> and no program has ever vanished.
>>>
>>
>> Well, maybe you can tell me how to fix suse 12.1.
>>
>> It uses the latest KDE desktop... and when I minimize a
window, it
>> vanishes into thin air. How come?
>
>
> According to Bilk, it's Microsoft's fault:
>>
>> It uses the latest KDE desktop... and when I minimize a
window, it
>> vanishes into thin air. How come?
>
>
>
> "I've been told, by a very trustworthy source who does
> not wish to be identified, that the feature set of KDE4 was
chosen
> by focus groups populated by random people off the street,
i.e.,
> naive MS-Windows users, not Linux users at all. This was
ordered
> by Novell while Novell was in collusion with Microsoft, and
Novell
> also paid for the development of KDE4."
>
>
> And cola idiots wonder why they're looked upon as morons and
nutjobs?
And of course, whackjobs. It seems that their precious linux,
when there is a complaint about it and how badly it
works,seems to get them all excited and then the wailing and
gnashing of teeth starts in.
Snit
May 6, 2012, 11:52:34 PM5/6/12
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On 5/6/12 8:02 PM, in article QPednScR1OnapjrS...@bresnan.com,
I am waiting for the herd to whine that I keep posting this... even though I
*only* post it in response to Peter's attacks against me, and even then not
all. Wait for - they *will* complain about me. And ignore that Peter is
making false accusations against me (or, at best, completely unsupported
ones).
*only* post it in response to Peter's attacks against me, and even then not
all. Wait for - they *will* complain about me. And ignore that Peter is
making false accusations against me (or, at best, completely unsupported
ones).
Snit
May 6, 2012, 11:54:01 PM5/6/12
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On 5/6/12 8:00 PM, in article QPednSUR1OlApzrS...@bresnan.com,
when there is a major update I just start from scratch. In other words, I
often re-install Linux as well, but it is not the fault of any problems I
run into (at least not generally).
"GreyCloud" <mi...@cumulus.com> wrote:
>> In both cases, perhaps, people re-install because they is what they know to
>> do ... *not* because it is the best or only solution.
>>
>>
> In this case the installation was so badly borked, I had to
> redownload the whole thing and checksum it. Then did a
> reinstall, which only took about 15 minutes. Things are now
> working correctly... and gee, even Knode can now download the
> newsgroup list. I knew from the beginning that when Knode
> wasn't getting a list something was really wrong.
>
> There is one nasty little in the system on login... if you
> don't have a window manager selected... when you log in you'll
> get a black screen.
I tend to have little data saved on my Windows VM, so if it gets hosed or
>> In both cases, perhaps, people re-install because they is what they know to
>> do ... *not* because it is the best or only solution.
>>
>>
> In this case the installation was so badly borked, I had to
> redownload the whole thing and checksum it. Then did a
> reinstall, which only took about 15 minutes. Things are now
> working correctly... and gee, even Knode can now download the
> newsgroup list. I knew from the beginning that when Knode
> wasn't getting a list something was really wrong.
>
> There is one nasty little in the system on login... if you
> don't have a window manager selected... when you log in you'll
> get a black screen.
when there is a major update I just start from scratch. In other words, I
often re-install Linux as well, but it is not the fault of any problems I
run into (at least not generally).
OldGoat
May 7, 2012, 12:57:49 AM5/7/12
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On 5/6/2012 9:54 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 5/6/12 8:00 PM, in article QPednSUR1OlApzrS...@bresnan.com,
> "GreyCloud"<mi...@cumulus.com> wrote:
>
>>> In both cases, perhaps, people re-install because they is what they know to
>>> do ... *not* because it is the best or only solution.
>>>
>>>
>> In this case the installation was so badly borked, I had to
>> redownload the whole thing and checksum it. Then did a
>> reinstall, which only took about 15 minutes. Things are now
>> working correctly... and gee, even Knode can now download the
>> newsgroup list. I knew from the beginning that when Knode
>> wasn't getting a list something was really wrong.
>>
>> There is one nasty little in the system on login... if you
>> don't have a window manager selected... when you log in you'll
>> get a black screen.
>
> I tend to have little data saved on my Windows VM, so if it gets hosed or
> when there is a major update I just start from scratch. In other words, I
> often re-install Linux as well, but it is not the fault of any problems I
> run into (at least not generally).
>
This time I took a snapshot of good install. But the original
> On 5/6/12 8:00 PM, in article QPednSUR1OlApzrS...@bresnan.com,
> "GreyCloud"<mi...@cumulus.com> wrote:
>
>>> In both cases, perhaps, people re-install because they is what they know to
>>> do ... *not* because it is the best or only solution.
>>>
>>>
>> In this case the installation was so badly borked, I had to
>> redownload the whole thing and checksum it. Then did a
>> reinstall, which only took about 15 minutes. Things are now
>> working correctly... and gee, even Knode can now download the
>> newsgroup list. I knew from the beginning that when Knode
>> wasn't getting a list something was really wrong.
>>
>> There is one nasty little in the system on login... if you
>> don't have a window manager selected... when you log in you'll
>> get a black screen.
>
> I tend to have little data saved on my Windows VM, so if it gets hosed or
> when there is a major update I just start from scratch. In other words, I
> often re-install Linux as well, but it is not the fault of any problems I
> run into (at least not generally).
>
install??? I really don't know what really happened, as all I did was
start the installer... rebooted and there it was. Which is what is
suppose to happen in the first place, but it didn't. Then there Peter
who just can't fathom that a linux installer can screw things up.
Snit
May 7, 2012, 1:14:55 AM5/7/12
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On 5/6/12 9:57 PM, in article jJOdncH-MYTSyzrS...@bresnan.com,
I did have a non-VM Ubuntu install screw up. I could not get cron to to
work... was actually one of the things that brought me more to COLA. I was
hoping I was making some dumb error and that the "advocates" here could help
me. None had any clue that ended up helping (though some did try). I
finally re-installed and it worked as expected... no dumb-user mistake, just
a bad install.
work... was actually one of the things that brought me more to COLA. I was
hoping I was making some dumb error and that the "advocates" here could help
me. None had any clue that ended up helping (though some did try). I
finally re-installed and it worked as expected... no dumb-user mistake, just
a bad install.
Steve Carroll
May 7, 2012, 1:33:17 AM5/7/12
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On May 6, 9:52 pm, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 5/6/12 8:02 PM, in article QPednScR1OnapjrSnZ2dnUVZ_r2dn...@bresnan.com,
> >> On 5/6/12 9:51 AM, in article jo6aa5$17...@dont-email.me,
> > "Peter Köhlmann"
Snit... you're like a bucket of puke sitting in the middle of the room
that no one will empty... of COURSE people are going to complain about
you! In fact, virtually EVERYONE has.
Gee, I hope you take that in the manner in which it was intended ;)
> On 5/6/12 8:02 PM, in article QPednScR1OnapjrSnZ2dnUVZ_r2dn...@bresnan.com,
> >> On 5/6/12 9:51 AM, in article jo6aa5$17...@dont-email.me,
> > "Peter Köhlmann"
that no one will empty... of COURSE people are going to complain about
you! In fact, virtually EVERYONE has.
Gee, I hope you take that in the manner in which it was intended ;)
Hadron
May 7, 2012, 3:02:13 AM5/7/12
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DFS
May 7, 2012, 8:38:38 AM5/7/12
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On 5/6/2012 11:00 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
> In this case the installation was so badly borked, I had to
> redownload the whole thing and checksum it. Then did a
> reinstall, which only took about 15 minutes. Things are now
> working correctly... and gee, even Knode can now download the
> newsgroup list. I knew from the beginning that when Knode
> wasn't getting a list something was really wrong.
>
> There is one nasty little in the system on login... if you
> don't have a window manager selected... when you log in you'll
> get a black screen.
But but but... Linux is technically better than Windows?
> In this case the installation was so badly borked, I had to
> redownload the whole thing and checksum it. Then did a
> reinstall, which only took about 15 minutes. Things are now
> working correctly... and gee, even Knode can now download the
> newsgroup list. I knew from the beginning that when Knode
> wasn't getting a list something was really wrong.
>
> There is one nasty little in the system on login... if you
> don't have a window manager selected... when you log in you'll
> get a black screen.
DFS
May 7, 2012, 8:40:16 AM5/7/12
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Microsoft, then the dog walking by... anything but the crappy code
delivered by the crappy developers.
cc
May 7, 2012, 9:06:57 AM5/7/12
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On Saturday, May 5, 2012 8:22:23 PM UTC-4, DFS wrote:
> "unity has vanished
Finally.
--
"While pregnant for me, my mom continued to drink, at least for the 1st trimester if not more." - Snit
> "unity has vanished
Finally.
--
"While pregnant for me, my mom continued to drink, at least for the 1st trimester if not more." - Snit
Kari Laine
May 7, 2012, 1:12:00 PM5/7/12
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On 05/06/2012 03:49 AM, Foster wrote:
> One experience with Linux is more than enough to send people running
> back to Windows.
>
Well why I have quite the opposite experience. Either we live on
different planets or you are just hot air. Haw many people have you
introduced to Linux and followed their experience? I have done that for
many.
My latest is my new boss. He has practically abandoned windows. He uses
now Ubuntu.
Naturally there are problems with Linux - is not perfect you know. But
if you tell that Windows has less problems I will laugh on your face.
> In fact, I wrote Microsoft and suggested that they include a free
> copy of Linux with every Windows shrink wrap.
Actually that would be great! But I am sure MS is too scared to do that.
>
> What better way to show the superiority of Windows than to have
> people clobbering their system and losing their data by installing
> Linux.
I have not heard a single occasion on my environment were people would
have lost their data. Quite the opposite actually. Linux is used to
recover work from non-bootable Windows.
You are so full of hot air and nothing else. I hope you get paid enough
to be such a jerk.
Kari
> On 06 May 2012 00:45:48 GMT, Mark S Bilk wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 05 May 2012 20:22:23 -0400, Microsoft Corporation,
>> using fraudulent ID "DFS" wrote:
>>
>>> Subject: Ubuntu shitware: "Unity has vanished"
>>
>> Microsoft labels Linux as "shitware" to dissuade COLA readers
>> from trying it.
>
> We don't have to dissuade anyone from trying Linux.
>
>> On Sat, 05 May 2012 20:22:23 -0400, Microsoft Corporation,
>> using fraudulent ID "DFS" wrote:
>>
>>> Subject: Ubuntu shitware: "Unity has vanished"
>>
>> Microsoft labels Linux as "shitware" to dissuade COLA readers
>> from trying it.
>
> One experience with Linux is more than enough to send people running
> back to Windows.
>
Well why I have quite the opposite experience. Either we live on
different planets or you are just hot air. Haw many people have you
introduced to Linux and followed their experience? I have done that for
many.
My latest is my new boss. He has practically abandoned windows. He uses
now Ubuntu.
Naturally there are problems with Linux - is not perfect you know. But
if you tell that Windows has less problems I will laugh on your face.
> In fact, I wrote Microsoft and suggested that they include a free
> copy of Linux with every Windows shrink wrap.
Actually that would be great! But I am sure MS is too scared to do that.
>
> What better way to show the superiority of Windows than to have
> people clobbering their system and losing their data by installing
> Linux.
I have not heard a single occasion on my environment were people would
have lost their data. Quite the opposite actually. Linux is used to
recover work from non-bootable Windows.
You are so full of hot air and nothing else. I hope you get paid enough
to be such a jerk.
Kari
GreyCloud
May 7, 2012, 1:32:30 PM5/7/12
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GreyCloud
May 7, 2012, 1:34:22 PM5/7/12
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VMware on the mac was still the best. I used Virtual Box on the mac, but
tossed it out as it really wasn't near as good as Fusion.
GreyCloud
May 7, 2012, 1:35:21 PM5/7/12
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Of course that is in his own diseased mind that he believes.
DFS
May 7, 2012, 7:31:33 PM5/7/12
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Check out Security Policy and Group Policy in Windows 7 (Start button
then enter 'secpol.msc' or 'gpedit.msc').
There are a couple thousand settings that can be made in there - all
sorted, categorized and easily made. Doing the same in Linux literally
takes hundreds of little utilities and (cr)apps, and months if not years
of learning and reading man pages. If they can be done at all.
And check out the power mgmt options of Linux vs Windows. It's a joke.
(not that Linux doesn't have advantages over Windows in flexibility and
scalability and package mgmt and command line power)
DFS
May 7, 2012, 7:33:05 PM5/7/12
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On 5/7/2012 1:12 PM, Kari Laine wrote:
> On 05/06/2012 03:49 AM, Foster wrote:
>> On 06 May 2012 00:45:48 GMT, Mark S Bilk wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 05 May 2012 20:22:23 -0400, Microsoft Corporation,
>>> using fraudulent ID "DFS" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Subject: Ubuntu shitware: "Unity has vanished"
>>>
>>> Microsoft labels Linux as "shitware" to dissuade COLA readers
>>> from trying it.
>>
>> We don't have to dissuade anyone from trying Linux.
>> One experience with Linux is more than enough to send people running
>> back to Windows.
>>
> Well why I have quite the opposite experience. Either we live on
> different planets or you are just hot air. Haw many people have you
> introduced to Linux and followed their experience? I have done that for
> many.
Bullshit.
> On 05/06/2012 03:49 AM, Foster wrote:
>> On 06 May 2012 00:45:48 GMT, Mark S Bilk wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 05 May 2012 20:22:23 -0400, Microsoft Corporation,
>>> using fraudulent ID "DFS" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Subject: Ubuntu shitware: "Unity has vanished"
>>>
>>> Microsoft labels Linux as "shitware" to dissuade COLA readers
>>> from trying it.
>>
>> We don't have to dissuade anyone from trying Linux.
>> One experience with Linux is more than enough to send people running
>> back to Windows.
>>
> Well why I have quite the opposite experience. Either we live on
> different planets or you are just hot air. Haw many people have you
> introduced to Linux and followed their experience? I have done that for
> many.
Truth is, it's difficult to even get people to try Linux.
> My latest is my new boss. He has practically abandoned windows. He uses
> now Ubuntu.
> Naturally there are problems with Linux - is not perfect you know. But
> if you tell that Windows has less problems I will laugh on your face.
>> In fact, I wrote Microsoft and suggested that they include a free
>> copy of Linux with every Windows shrink wrap.
> Actually that would be great! But I am sure MS is too scared to do that.
Can you imagine the horror and revulsion as inexperienced Mom goes
through the initial effort of installing Arch Linux?!?! ha!!!
It might cost MS $0.50 per disc to make and distribute, but it would
permanently turn millions off Linux, and they'll tell everyone about the
disastrous experience. I think it would be a great investment for
Microsoft.
>> What better way to show the superiority of Windows than to have
>> people clobbering their system and losing their data by installing
>> Linux.
> I have not heard a single occasion on my environment were people would
> have lost their data. Quite the opposite actually. Linux is used to
> recover work from non-bootable Windows.
http://www.google.com/search?q=Linux+data+loss
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/317781
#151 at
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1135055&page=16
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/474258
> You are so full of hot air and nothing else. I hope you get paid enough
> to be such a jerk.
> Kari
>
GreyCloud
May 7, 2012, 11:01:57 PM5/7/12
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Things are working as anybody would expect. The best part is using VS2010
Pro... it is a pleasure using it so far. I found out about the C++ use of
rvalue references, which isn't in gcc, and is of great use in cutting down
on useless object copying. Also getting into the CLR version of C++ and
found some rather interesting features that cut down on the usual code
bloat.
Snit
May 7, 2012, 11:45:22 PM5/7/12
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On 5/7/12 8:01 PM, in article d_ednajledQ3ETXS...@bresnan.com,
registry and all the stupidity that goes with that, absurd copy dialogs, and
some other bizarre oddities, but overall it is not bad.
"GreyCloud" <mi...@cumulus.com> wrote:
>> There are a couple thousand settings that can be made in there - all
>> sorted, categorized and easily made. Doing the same in Linux literally
>> takes hundreds of little utilities and (cr)apps, and months if not years
>> of learning and reading man pages. If they can be done at all.
>>
>> And check out the power mgmt options of Linux vs Windows. It's a joke.
>>
>>
>> (not that Linux doesn't have advantages over Windows in flexibility and
>> scalability and package mgmt and command line power)
>
> So far, I'm having a very good experience with win7.
> Things are working as anybody would expect. The best part is using VS2010
> Pro... it is a pleasure using it so far. I found out about the C++ use of
> rvalue references, which isn't in gcc, and is of great use in cutting down
> on useless object copying. Also getting into the CLR version of C++ and
> found some rather interesting features that cut down on the usual code
> bloat.
While I still prefer OS X, Windows 7 is a pretty good OS. It still has the
>> There are a couple thousand settings that can be made in there - all
>> sorted, categorized and easily made. Doing the same in Linux literally
>> takes hundreds of little utilities and (cr)apps, and months if not years
>> of learning and reading man pages. If they can be done at all.
>>
>> And check out the power mgmt options of Linux vs Windows. It's a joke.
>>
>>
>> (not that Linux doesn't have advantages over Windows in flexibility and
>> scalability and package mgmt and command line power)
>
> So far, I'm having a very good experience with win7.
> Things are working as anybody would expect. The best part is using VS2010
> Pro... it is a pleasure using it so far. I found out about the C++ use of
> rvalue references, which isn't in gcc, and is of great use in cutting down
> on useless object copying. Also getting into the CLR version of C++ and
> found some rather interesting features that cut down on the usual code
> bloat.
registry and all the stupidity that goes with that, absurd copy dialogs, and
some other bizarre oddities, but overall it is not bad.
GreyCloud
May 8, 2012, 12:19:23 AM5/8/12
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On 5/7/2012 9:45 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 5/7/12 8:01 PM, in article d_ednajledQ3ETXS...@bresnan.com,
> "GreyCloud"<mi...@cumulus.com> wrote:
>
>>> There are a couple thousand settings that can be made in there - all
>>> sorted, categorized and easily made. Doing the same in Linux literally
>>> takes hundreds of little utilities and (cr)apps, and months if not years
>>> of learning and reading man pages. If they can be done at all.
>>>
>>> And check out the power mgmt options of Linux vs Windows. It's a joke.
>>>
>>>
>>> (not that Linux doesn't have advantages over Windows in flexibility and
>>> scalability and package mgmt and command line power)
>>
>> So far, I'm having a very good experience with win7.
>> Things are working as anybody would expect. The best part is using VS2010
>> Pro... it is a pleasure using it so far. I found out about the C++ use of
>> rvalue references, which isn't in gcc, and is of great use in cutting down
>> on useless object copying. Also getting into the CLR version of C++ and
>> found some rather interesting features that cut down on the usual code
>> bloat.
>
> While I still prefer OS X, Windows 7 is a pretty good OS. It still has the
> registry and all the stupidity that goes with that, absurd copy dialogs, and
> some other bizarre oddities, but overall it is not bad.
>
>
It is the end results that matter. So far, using VS2010 Pro, it is
> On 5/7/12 8:01 PM, in article d_ednajledQ3ETXS...@bresnan.com,
> "GreyCloud"<mi...@cumulus.com> wrote:
>
>>> There are a couple thousand settings that can be made in there - all
>>> sorted, categorized and easily made. Doing the same in Linux literally
>>> takes hundreds of little utilities and (cr)apps, and months if not years
>>> of learning and reading man pages. If they can be done at all.
>>>
>>> And check out the power mgmt options of Linux vs Windows. It's a joke.
>>>
>>>
>>> (not that Linux doesn't have advantages over Windows in flexibility and
>>> scalability and package mgmt and command line power)
>>
>> So far, I'm having a very good experience with win7.
>> Things are working as anybody would expect. The best part is using VS2010
>> Pro... it is a pleasure using it so far. I found out about the C++ use of
>> rvalue references, which isn't in gcc, and is of great use in cutting down
>> on useless object copying. Also getting into the CLR version of C++ and
>> found some rather interesting features that cut down on the usual code
>> bloat.
>
> While I still prefer OS X, Windows 7 is a pretty good OS. It still has the
> registry and all the stupidity that goes with that, absurd copy dialogs, and
> some other bizarre oddities, but overall it is not bad.
>
>
quite easy and no hair yanking. I just wished that Apple had just
improved and eliminated a few bugs with Xcode 3. Their 4th version is
really causing people headaches, which is why I left it.
Maybe in the future when they get all the bugs and kinks cleaned up I'll
get another Mac.
Snit
May 8, 2012, 1:14:22 AM5/8/12
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On 5/7/12 9:19 PM, in article WfedneGFT69TAzXS...@bresnan.com,
As someone who does not program, the quality of Xcode does not *directly*
affect me - but if it is not working well for developers that will hurt the
development of programs I use. So far I have not seen any real increase in
problems (though the most recent ScreenFlow is a bit more quirky than I
would like).
affect me - but if it is not working well for developers that will hurt the
development of programs I use. So far I have not seen any real increase in
problems (though the most recent ScreenFlow is a bit more quirky than I
would like).
Torre Starnes
May 8, 2012, 8:40:02 PM5/8/12
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Windows 7 is a masterpiece of quality.
Linux, say Ubuntu 12.04, is a pile of trash.
Torre Starnes
May 8, 2012, 8:41:42 PM5/8/12
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While it has gotten better, so has Windows and Windows 7 absolutely
trounces Linux overall.
The proof is in the market share.
1 percent for Linux.
About 90 percent for Windows.
Only a complete idiot would try to foist Linux on the unsuspecting
average user.
Torre Starnes
May 8, 2012, 8:44:24 PM5/8/12
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It's never the fault of Linux.
Linux sucks.
They know it but will never admit it.
And they don't have to because anyone trying Linux, even for a
little while will discover how shitty Linux really is.
It's only the religious weirdo, cult, herd members who won't admit
Linux sucks.
And people simply laugh at them.
Torre Starnes
May 8, 2012, 8:45:31 PM5/8/12
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know for sure it sucks.
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