Apple profit surges 47% - Millions of consumers continue to buy Macs, iPhones and iPods
Ezekiel
<quote>
Apple's Profits Rise 47 Percent on Strong Mac Sales
The company, based in Cupertino, Calif., continued to post strong gains in
the computer segment while its rivals are still struggling to recover from
the recession's impact on consumer spending. Apple said it sold 3.05
million Macs in the quarter, up about 17 percent from the 2.6 million it
sold in the same quarter last year.
Apple also continued to mine gold from the summer introduction of a new
smartphone, the iPhone 3GS. Apple sold 7.4 million phones in the quarter,
up from 6.9 million units sold in the year-ago quarter and ahead of Wall
Street's expectation of around 7 million iPhones sold in the quarter.
Apple has had trouble maintaining a steady supply of iPhones, indicating
that customer demand for the phone is even higher.
Not even the iPod, which has been slowly fading as a stand-alone business,
could seriously hurt the quarter for Apple. The company sold 10.2 million
iPods during the quarter, slightly fewer than the 10.4 million that Wall
Street had projected. But the numbers do not fully reflect the changes
Apple announced in September
</quote>
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/20/technology/companies/20apple.html?partner=yahoofinance
Moshe Goldfarb
It's all simple....
Make a product that captures the fancy of the consumer, and it
will sell.
Offer something that the consumer doesn't want, like Linux, and
you won't even be able to give it away for free.
Ezekiel
"Moshe Goldfarb" <mosheg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hbiv3a$tpb$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
People are willing to pay for convenience and quality.
This is certainly a slap on the face of Linux. The *good news* is that the
numbers seem to indicate that people are not "locked in" and are willing to
change their OS. The *bad news* is that they would rather pay even _more_
money for a Mac than to use Linux for free.
Ouch... that's gotta hurt.
Moshe Goldfarb
That's preciously what is happening.
I personally know several people who had bad experiences with
Vista, early on and went to Mac.
Linux was not even considered because they had tried Linux in
the past and it left them pissed off.
JEDIDIAH
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> "Moshe Goldfarb" <mosheg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:hbiv3a$tpb$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:06:41 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/20/technology/companies/20apple.html?partner=yahoofinance
>>
>> It's all simple....
>>
>> Make a product that captures the fancy of the consumer, and it
>> will sell.
>>
>> Offer something that the consumer doesn't want, like Linux, and
>> you won't even be able to give it away for free.
>
> People are willing to pay for convenience and quality.
>
> This is certainly a slap on the face of Linux. The *good news* is that the
Not really.
There's the other 20 years to consider.
[deletia]
Marketing drive sales. Whodathunkit?
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Justin
and they're willing to pay even more to get away from Microsoft's virus
haven.
People are willing to pay for convenience, quality and security -
something Windows can't provide.
Ezekiel
"Justin" <jus...@nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote in message
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Evidently the consumer feels that Linux can't provide it either. That's why
people would rather pay *more* money for a Mac.
Ezekiel
"JEDIDIAH" <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote in message
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> On 2009-10-20, Ezekiel <ze...@nosuchdomain.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> "Moshe Goldfarb" <mosheg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:hbiv3a$tpb$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:06:41 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
> [deletia]
>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/20/technology/companies/20apple.html?partner=yahoofinance
>>>
>>> It's all simple....
>>>
>>> Make a product that captures the fancy of the consumer, and it
>>> will sell.
>>>
>>> Offer something that the consumer doesn't want, like Linux, and
>>> you won't even be able to give it away for free.
>>
>> People are willing to pay for convenience and quality.
>>
>> This is certainly a slap on the face of Linux. The *good news* is that
>> the
>
> Not really.
Yes really. The increase in Mac sales indicates that people are not
"locked-in" and that they are free to switch to an alternate platform. And
the alternate platform they chose is OSX - not Linux.
> There's the other 20 years to consider.
So 20 years from now will be the year of the desktop Linux?
JEDIDIAH
> news:hbjo1l$r25$3...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Ezekiel wrote:
>>> "Moshe Goldfarb" <mosheg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hbiv3a$tpb$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:06:41 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
[deletia]
>>
>> and they're willing to pay even more to get away from Microsoft's virus
>> haven.
>> People are willing to pay for convenience, quality and security -
>> something Windows can't provide.
>
>
> Evidently the consumer feels that Linux can't provide it either. That's why
> people would rather pay *more* money for a Mac.
A cheap Mac is no more than a cheap PC these days.
You can even find a special Mac store in the local mall.
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JEDIDIAH
If it worked for Apple, why should Linux users despair?
Linux is a tool meant to be useful. It's not meant to be homecomming queen.
Peter Köhlmann
> On 2009-10-20, Ezekiel <ze...@nosuchdomain.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> "Justin" <jus...@nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote in message
>> news:hbjo1l$r25$3...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Ezekiel wrote:
>>>> "Moshe Goldfarb" <mosheg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:hbiv3a$tpb$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:06:41 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>
> [deletia]
>
>>>
>>> and they're willing to pay even more to get away from Microsoft's
>>> virus haven.
>>> People are willing to pay for convenience, quality and security -
>>> something Windows can't provide.
>>
>>
>> Evidently the consumer feels that Linux can't provide it either. That's
>> why people would rather pay *more* money for a Mac.
>
> A cheap Mac is no more than a cheap PC these days.
What? A Mac is about twice the price of a similar equipped PC
> You can even find a special Mac store in the local mall.
>
I don't see any sensible priced Macs, though
Add to that they ridiculous overpriced apps, and you have lots of reasons
to avoid them like the plague
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JEDIDIAH
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>
> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>
>> On 2009-10-20, Ezekiel <ze...@nosuchdomain.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Justin" <jus...@nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hbjo1l$r25$3...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>> "Moshe Goldfarb" <mosheg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:hbiv3a$tpb$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:06:41 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>
>> [deletia]
>>
>>>>
>>>> and they're willing to pay even more to get away from Microsoft's
>>>> virus haven.
>>>> People are willing to pay for convenience, quality and security -
>>>> something Windows can't provide.
>>>
>>>
>>> Evidently the consumer feels that Linux can't provide it either. That's
>>> why people would rather pay *more* money for a Mac.
>>
>> A cheap Mac is no more than a cheap PC these days.
>
> What? A Mac is about twice the price of a similar equipped PC
On the lowend you will pay about as much for a "basic box". Sure
the "basic box" PC is going to be more powerful but it's probably
going to be wasted. Systems and n00b users are now at the point where
most capacity is wasted.
This is why netbooks can work for people.
>
>> You can even find a special Mac store in the local mall.
>>
>
> I don't see any sensible priced Macs, though
>
> Add to that they ridiculous overpriced apps, and you have lots of reasons
> to avoid them like the plague
Before the availability of complete ION systems, Macs were actually
competitively priced as low profile machines.
Peter Köhlmann
> On 2009-10-20, Peter Köhlmann <peter-k...@t-online.de> wrote:
>>
>>
>> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>
>>> On 2009-10-20, Ezekiel <ze...@nosuchdomain.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Justin" <jus...@nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:hbjo1l$r25$3...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>> "Moshe Goldfarb" <mosheg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:hbiv3a$tpb$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:06:41 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>
>>> [deletia]
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> and they're willing to pay even more to get away from Microsoft's
>>>>> virus haven.
>>>>> People are willing to pay for convenience, quality and security -
>>>>> something Windows can't provide.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Evidently the consumer feels that Linux can't provide it either.
>>>> That's why people would rather pay *more* money for a Mac.
>>>
>>> A cheap Mac is no more than a cheap PC these days.
>>
>> What? A Mac is about twice the price of a similar equipped PC
>
> On the lowend you will pay about as much for a "basic box". Sure
> the "basic box" PC is going to be more powerful but it's probably
> going to be wasted.
Then the two are not comparable. You have to compare with similar systems
> Systems and n00b users are now at the point where
> most capacity is wasted.
>
> This is why netbooks can work for people.
>
>>
>>> You can even find a special Mac store in the local mall.
>>>
>>
>> I don't see any sensible priced Macs, though
>>
>> Add to that they ridiculous overpriced apps, and you have lots of
>> reasons to avoid them like the plague
>
> Before the availability of complete ION systems, Macs were actually
> competitively priced as low profile machines.
>
Not in germany. There they *never* were.
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Snit
7:21 AM:
>>> Evidently the consumer feels that Linux can't provide it either. That's
>>> why people would rather pay *more* money for a Mac.
>>
>> A cheap Mac is no more than a cheap PC these days.
>
> What? A Mac is about twice the price of a similar equipped PC
How do you explain that most reviews find Macs to be about the same cost as
comparable PCs?
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JEDIDIAH
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>
> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>
>> On 2009-10-20, Peter Köhlmann <peter-k...@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2009-10-20, Ezekiel <ze...@nosuchdomain.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Justin" <jus...@nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:hbjo1l$r25$3...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>> Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>>> "Moshe Goldfarb" <mosheg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:hbiv3a$tpb$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:06:41 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [deletia]
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and they're willing to pay even more to get away from Microsoft's
>>>>>> virus haven.
>>>>>> People are willing to pay for convenience, quality and security -
>>>>>> something Windows can't provide.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Evidently the consumer feels that Linux can't provide it either.
>>>>> That's why people would rather pay *more* money for a Mac.
>>>>
>>>> A cheap Mac is no more than a cheap PC these days.
>>>
>>> What? A Mac is about twice the price of a similar equipped PC
>>
>> On the lowend you will pay about as much for a "basic box". Sure
>> the "basic box" PC is going to be more powerful but it's probably
>> going to be wasted.
>
> Then the two are not comparable. You have to compare with similar systems
Sure they are. They are comparable based on requirements. You don't have
to play the "specs game" that Mac fanboys like to play. There is a practical
lower bound on the price of consumer electronics.
OTOH, the same analysis doesn't bode well for anything but the lowest
end Macs.
>
>> Systems and n00b users are now at the point where
>> most capacity is wasted.
>>
>> This is why netbooks can work for people.
>>
>>>
>>>> You can even find a special Mac store in the local mall.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't see any sensible priced Macs, though
>>>
>>> Add to that they ridiculous overpriced apps, and you have lots of
>>> reasons to avoid them like the plague
>>
>> Before the availability of complete ION systems, Macs were actually
>> competitively priced as low profile machines.
>>
>
> Not in germany. There they *never* were.
Where else in Germany can you get comparable low profile system?
IONs don't exactly count because they are a big compromise that
doesn't work for every user. Although it would be interesting to see
how they would work out in practice.
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